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[ripper]

Originally Posted by Don Fernando

You should, the Wooden Shoe Crew would love to herf with you someday.

Another reason for this old Bart to stay home.
Thanks for the kind offer, Don F, but you would not want a cretin like me pestering you.

[T.G]

Originally Posted by jitzy

Ok maybe villain was the wrong word but guys are kinda giving him crap it seams for bringing this to peoples attention.

Who is giving him crap? All I see are people disagreeing with some of his assertions.


BTW, FWIW, Mychal (LostAbbott) and Tom brought the CC fraud issue to people's attention on the 16th, three days prior to Starz26's first post on the subject.

[Blueface]

Originally Posted by Blueface

Hard to argue with this point.
I used Visa and to date, still no issues.
I can't see it being the vendor as they would not be selective in the fraud process.
If fraud is the intent, they would have nailed all of us.

Originally Posted by jitzy

Sure you can Waffle used Visa and was compromised. I think its funny someone is trying to look out for guys and he's now turned into the vilian.

Originally Posted by jitzy

If blueface didn't mean it like that than I apologize but the way it reads it does sound like that.

No hard feelings here nor apology necessary but not sure what you are referring to when you say "the way it reads, it does sound like that" based on what you quoted.

I think you have me confused with another Blueface.
Above is my quote, followed by yours in response to mine.

[jitzy]

Originally Posted by Blueface

No hard feelings here nor apology necessary but not sure what you are referring to when you say "the way it reads, it does sound like that" based on what you quoted.

I think you have me confused with another Blueface.
Above is my quote, followed by yours in response to mine.

Your right I had you confused with bobarian I'm sorry.

[Blueface]

Originally Posted by jitzy

Your right I had you confused with bobarian I'm sorry.

Hey, it happens.
I am still trying to convince my wife that lady from last weekend that swears she knows me intimately was confusing me for someone else.

[markem]

Originally Posted by Starz26

Not sure who is at fault but i do know that by placing and order on the site you risk your CC being compromised.

Dude. Reality check. Whenever you use your CC, in person or over the phone or electronically or via carrier pigeon (just to name a few), you risk compromise. For a specific circumstance with a specific card holder, the risks vary.

[jitzy]

Originally Posted by Blueface

Hey, it happens.
I am still trying to convince my wife that lady from last weekend that swears she knows me intimately was confusing me for someone else.

Ya I really don't think thats gonna happen

[Starz26]

Originally Posted by markem

Dude. Reality check. Whenever you use your CC, in person or over the phone or electronically or via carrier pigeon (just to name a few), you risk compromise. For a specific circumstance with a specific card holder, the risks vary.

I guess I should have said "INCREASED RISK".

Dude reality check, do not take my comments out of context. this thread is not about an everyday purchase and an everyday vendor

[T.G]

Originally Posted by Starz26

love all the kind words for passing along some good information.....

Well, for those that were not hit, please let us know when you are....will be interesting to see...

For those that do not see a connection with shnoop dot com (directly or indirectly) and the fraud, well as another poster said, you are clueless. Oh and if they really cared and were not involved they would respond to emails...

For those that think I do not know the risks of CC, well, again clueless....

Next time we see someone complaining about a Cigar Site shipping broken items, paying to much etc, maybe we should all just respond "You know the risks

I wonder if any of the fraudulent charges were for pie?

[Starz26]

Originally Posted by T.G

I wonder if any of the fraudulent charges were for pie?

Ahh, see, there ya go, quoting a post before I thought better of it and deleted it..... Shame on you!

[AlohaStyle]

Wow, didn't see this thread taking this turn. Starz as well as myself have seen A LOT of BOTLs reporting their credit cards were compromised soon after making a purchase through Shnoop and is trying to get to the bottom of it. Sure there isn't much we can do as the credit card co's do a great job of making things right in today's world and we don't have any authority, but we sure as heck can contact all co's involved to see what, if anything, can be done to make sure it doesn't happen again.

I think most BOTLs understand credit cards can be compromised on any site as many of us buy online, but there are way too many BOTLs reporting fraud charges after buying from Shnoop that it would be crazy not to think there is a connection. Of course this may not be any fault of Shnoop, but it's connected somehow.

FYI... I emailed Shnoop again this evening with a couple other quotes of people who had fraud charges and this was their response:

Thank you for following up on this with us. We take all matters relating to privacy issues seriously and we certainly take heart with our customers who experienced fraudulent charges on their credit cards, as we understand that it can be an extremely frustrating experience. Shnoop.com does not store, access or retain any of our customer's credit card information. At this time, we are being advised by McAfee, which performs a daily security sweep on the site to determine if there are any vulnerabilities with the user pages, and that our site is Hacker Safe (https://www.mcafeesecure.com/RatingV...www.shnoop.com). This, along with the requisite SSL encryption, are requirements that "PooPal" has for merchants to utilize their secure payment platform that we employ on our site. Nonetheless, we are taking additional precautionary measures by having a 3rd party data protection firm do a complete security audit on the server, to ensure that our server was always completely secure. We strongly urge and advise anyone who suspects that their credit card information has been compromised, to immediately contact their card issuing bank, which investigates such matters. Please don't hesitate to email us back if you have any further questions.

Regards,

The Shnoop Team

[icehog3]

I love how these people deny all possibilities that this could have happened in relation to our orders with them, when it is obvious what the truth is. Either they have their heads buried in the sand, or figure as long as they don't admit to anything, we will never be sure. Yeah, right.

[AlohaStyle]

Yeah, just trying to cover their asses legally...

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by AlohaStyle

Yeah, just trying to cover their asses legally...

Deny, deny, demand proof.....The Rule of D's.

[T.G]

Originally Posted by AlohaStyle

I think most BOTLs understand credit cards can be compromised on any site as many of us buy online, but there are way too many BOTLs reporting fraud charges after buying from Shnoop that it would be crazy not to think there is a connection. Of course this may not be any fault of Shnoop, but it's connected somehow.

I don't think you'll find too many, if any, people who will argue that it isn't somehow related to the purchases made that day from shnoop, the disconnect seems to be coming over the assertion that it was at shnoop where it occurred, possibly intentionally.

[AlohaStyle]

Not just BOTLs getting screwed:

http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...d.php?p=361842

And no I'm not a member there...

[shilala]

Originally Posted by icehog3

I love how these people deny all possibilities that this could have happened in relation to our orders with them, when it is obvious what the truth is. Either they have their heads buried in the sand, or figure as long as they don't admit to anything, we will never be sure. Yeah, right.

That's a little spooky. I suppose from their angle it's the only way they can go if they have no idea what happened. Isn't there law that if a credit card or personal information databank is hacked or otherwise compromised that the users have to be notified?
I supoose they're worried if they have to fess up and tell people it'll hurt business?

[Blueface]

Well, I just had the scare of my life.
I thought I had been hacked by this transaction also.
However, in my case, it turns out to be a more serious issue than what is on this thread.
Mine is a much more deep rooted evil that will be much tougher to fix.
Turns out it was the wife on a shopping spree.

[14holestogie]

Originally Posted by Blueface

Well, I just had the scare of my life.
I thought I had been hacked by this transaction also.
However, in my case, it turns out to be a more serious issue than what is on this thread.
Mine is a much more deep rooted evil that will be much tougher to fix.
Turns out it was the wife on a shopping spree.

[Bunker]

Originally Posted by Blueface

Well, I just had the scare of my life.
I thought I had been hacked by this transaction also.
However, in my case, it turns out to be a more serious issue than what is on this thread.
Mine is a much more deep rooted evil that will be much tougher to fix.
Turns out it was the wife on a shopping spree.

Yeah, I just checked mine again and see a lot of things I wish I could claim as fraudulent charges but no such luck.

In my case I used Amex through my PP account which seems to be pretty bullet-proof.