So, I thought about doing the cash for clunkers. - Page 3

KidRock · 07-27-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by alley00p

Bob, there is a reason for those ads. I have 2 Chrysler vehicles that are coming out of lease in a few months, and the dealers are begging me to take a new vehicle from them - their lots are full of 2009 models, and they are practically giving them away. But, here in the Motor City, no one is interested, especially the many thousands of laid-off and bought-out ex-Chrysler employees.

By the same token, the one company that didn't go begging for money from the Guvmint, Ford, has zero 2009's and are selling truckloads of 2010's that show up daily! I went Friday to look at a Ford Explorer; it's the same size as my Jeep Commander, and if I get something new, I'll probably go with Ford. And this is coming from someone who has been buying or leasing Chrysler vehicles exclusively since 1973!

This whole "Cash for Clunkers" deal is another Obama "Were doing our best to help out you poor people out there" program. If it was really meant to help anyone, the program would have been written to accept any vehicle that is 10 years old or older and doesn't meet the upcoming new CAFE standards!

Charlie,

This is the best post on CA, I have ever seen. You are the man!!

bobarian · 07-27-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by alley00p

Bob, you are completely correct, and I apologize for changing your words in the quote. I have no excuse for my conduct, and didn't realize the large amount of frustration I have for our conditions here locally would allow me to do something that offended another Inmate.

I have sent you a separate PM, and other than asking here that you accept my apology in the spirit that it was offered, I won't be discussing anything else here on this thread.

No worries Charlie. It must be difficult having a single industry affecting everyones lives in such a significant manner. Hopefully, things will change soon.

DPD6030 · 07-28-2009, 04:43 AM

I know this is probably irrevalent but I always said the government could have gave every American citizen $100,000 or more to spend and stipulate to buy a new vehicle from one of the major manufacturers. Instead they "loan" the companies BILLIONS of dollars and these BILLIONS of dollars were to "bail" them out. They still file bankruptcy. So where did all these BILLIONS of dollars go?

Rabidsquirrel · 07-28-2009, 02:28 PM

It just isn't feasible to give every citizen $100,000. The current US population is about 300 million. Say half are 18 and up and that gives you (a guess) 150 million people. At $100K each, that's $15 TRILLION dollars, or $1.2 trillion more than our GDP.

As far as where it went, it didn't exist in the first place. That's what go us into this whole mess in the first place. Which kind of makes my first paragraph moot.

That was fairly non political, I guess.

e-man67 · 07-28-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kgoings

My comment about GM was not related to the Cash for Clunckers, it was directed at their bankruptcy and now being Government owned and run. I will not support this Gov.

Ditto!

smokeyandthebandit05 · 07-31-2009, 08:41 AM

Well Im doing the cash for clunkers tonight. Im trading in my 93 explorer that currently gets 10 mpg for a 09 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport that gets 22mpg at the least.

AD720 · 07-31-2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by smokeyandthebandit05

Well Im doing the cash for clunkers tonight. Im trading in my 93 explorer that currently gets 10 mpg for a 09 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport that gets 22mpg at the least.

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Congrats, I love my Outback!

07-31-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by smokeyandthebandit05

Well Im doing the cash for clunkers tonight. Im trading in my 93 explorer that currently gets 10 mpg for a 09 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport that gets 22mpg at the least.

Better hurry, sounds like its running out of money.

Different reports are buzzing around.

The first one today had it suspended, now its on again, and they are looking for more ways to fund it - spending more tax money they don't have

Chas

n3uka · 07-31-2009, 09:22 AM

Wanted to wait a couple weeks to trade in my 93 f150. Looks like the program will be gone by the time I am ready.

07-31-2009, 09:32 AM

Who knows

From one article:

At the White House, press secretary Robert Gibbs sought to assure consumers that the program is still running and will be alive "this weekend."

"If you were planning on going to buy a car this weekend, using this program, this program continues to run," Gibbs told reporters. He would not commit to any timeframe beyond that.

The program was scheduled to last through Nov. 1 or until the money ran out, but few predicted the fund would run out so quickly. The $1 billion in funding would provide up to 250,000 new car sales.

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It was unclear how many cars had been sold under the program. Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich., said about 40,000 vehicle sales had been completed through the program but dealers estimated they were trying to complete transactions on another 200,000 vehicles, putting the amount of remaining funding in doubt.

John McEleney, chairman of the National Automobile Dealers Association, said many dealers have been confused about whether the program will be extended and for how long. Many had stopped offering the deals Thursday after word came out that the funds available for the refunds had been exhausted.

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Earl Stewart, who owns a Toyota dealership in North Palm Beach, Fla., said the changing messages on the program has created confusion among his customers and his staff. Stewart's accounting department also could only enter about a dozen of the 47 sales he made into the government Web site set up to handle the transactions, leaving him wondering if he will get refunded for the remaining vouchers.

Chas

icehog3 · 07-31-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by smokeyandthebandit05

Well Im doing the cash for clunkers tonight. Im trading in my 93 explorer that currently gets 10 mpg for a 09 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport that gets 22mpg at the least.

Unfortunately the Feds suspended the program as of midnight....hope they can sneak the paperwork past for you.

EDIT: Oops, looks like the Feds bailed it out with 2 Billion more today!

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=310651&src=110

kydsid · 07-31-2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Unfortunately the Feds suspended the program as of midnight....hope they can sneak the paperwork past for you.

EDIT: Oops, looks like the Feds bailed it out with 2 Billion more today!

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=310651&src=110

Another billion here another billion there, no one will notice the difference.

icehog3 · 07-31-2009, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kydsid

Another billion here another billion there, no one will notice the difference.

Hell, I will give them my truck for a quick 100K.

TheTraveler · 07-31-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kydsid

Another billion here another billion there, no one will notice the difference.

Except whatever small group they target to raise taxes. Wonder who they'll go after? Surely not the

of the country.

smokeyandthebandit05 · 08-01-2009, 06:25 AM

Well I got my Subaru last night and have no regrets. Its like driving a go cart that does 85 in no time lol. I'll take some pics

smokeyandthebandit05 · 08-01-2009, 06:55 AM

Well Ive had the car for a total of about 11 hours and my dad already managed to lock all 3 keys in the car

GreekGodX · 08-01-2009, 07:17 AM

If I had a car that qualified I would do this in a heartbeat. I think it's a great deal. Some local dealerships are also matching the government money. Bottom line is cars need to be sold.

08-01-2009, 08:14 AM

Although I am against tax dollars being used for rebates on cars, I love the fact it happened. Gives great insight whats in store for Gov. ran health care. Confusion, server crashes, suppliers unable to submit paperwork, consumers limited by flow chart like requirements....

And this was just 200,000+ cars.

Chas

captain53 · 08-01-2009, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ChasDen

Although I am against tax dollars being used for rebates on cars, I love the fact it happened. Gives great insight whats in store for Gov. ran health care. Confusion, server crashes, suppliers unable to submit paperwork, consumers limited by flow chart like requirements....

And this was just 200,000+ cars.

Chas

Amen Chuck, this is a minature sample of what is to come if the gov takes any level of control over healthcare. Don't forget they spent $19 million for the cars.gov web site that does not work.

forgop · 08-01-2009, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ChasDen

Although I am against tax dollars being used for rebates on cars, I love the fact it happened. Gives great insight whats in store for Gov. ran health care. Confusion, server crashes, suppliers unable to submit paperwork, consumers limited by flow chart like requirements....

And this was just 200,000+ cars.

Chas

07-28-2009, 04:43 AM	#43
DPD6030 Shepard of the sheeple Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Mitten Posts: 7,166 Trading: (151)	Re: So, I thought about doing the cash for clunker I know this is probably irrevalent but I always said the government could have gave every American citizen $100,000 or more to spend and stipulate to buy a new vehicle from one of the major manufacturers. Instead they "loan" the companies BILLIONS of dollars and these BILLIONS of dollars were to "bail" them out. They still file bankruptcy. So where did all these BILLIONS of dollars go?

07-28-2009, 02:28 PM	#44
Rabidsquirrel Moderately Confused Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pennsylvania, US Posts: 576 Trading: (5)	Re: So, I thought about doing the cash for clunker It just isn't feasible to give every citizen $100,000. The current US population is about 300 million. Say half are 18 and up and that gives you (a guess) 150 million people. At $100K each, that's $15 TRILLION dollars, or $1.2 trillion more than our GDP. As far as where it went, it didn't exist in the first place. That's what go us into this whole mess in the first place. Which kind of makes my first paragraph moot. That was fairly non political, I guess.

07-31-2009, 08:41 AM	#46
smokeyandthebandit05 Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Rich Location: Branchville Posts: 758 Trading: (1)	Re: So, I thought about doing the cash for clunker Well Im doing the cash for clunkers tonight. Im trading in my 93 explorer that currently gets 10 mpg for a 09 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport that gets 22mpg at the least. __________________ MIAMI CANES 9-4 NJ DEVILS 37-21-3

07-31-2009, 09:22 AM	#49
n3uka Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The house on the corner Posts: 685 Trading: (30)	Re: So, I thought about doing the cash for clunker Wanted to wait a couple weeks to trade in my 93 f150. Looks like the program will be gone by the time I am ready.

07-31-2009, 09:32 AM	#50
ChasDen Guest Posts: n/a	Re: So, I thought about doing the cash for clunker Who knows From one article: At the White House, press secretary Robert Gibbs sought to assure consumers that the program is still running and will be alive "this weekend." "If you were planning on going to buy a car this weekend, using this program, this program continues to run," Gibbs told reporters. He would not commit to any timeframe beyond that. The program was scheduled to last through Nov. 1 or until the money ran out, but few predicted the fund would run out so quickly. The $1 billion in funding would provide up to 250,000 new car sales. And It was unclear how many cars had been sold under the program. Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich., said about 40,000 vehicle sales had been completed through the program but dealers estimated they were trying to complete transactions on another 200,000 vehicles, putting the amount of remaining funding in doubt. John McEleney, chairman of the National Automobile Dealers Association, said many dealers have been confused about whether the program will be extended and for how long. Many had stopped offering the deals Thursday after word came out that the funds available for the refunds had been exhausted. And Earl Stewart, who owns a Toyota dealership in North Palm Beach, Fla., said the changing messages on the program has created confusion among his customers and his staff. Stewart's accounting department also could only enter about a dozen of the 47 sales he made into the government Web site set up to handle the transactions, leaving him wondering if he will get refunded for the remaining vouchers. Chas

08-01-2009, 06:25 AM	#55
smokeyandthebandit05 Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Rich Location: Branchville Posts: 758 Trading: (1)	Re: So, I thought about doing the cash for clunker Well I got my Subaru last night and have no regrets. Its like driving a go cart that does 85 in no time lol. I'll take some pics __________________ MIAMI CANES 9-4 NJ DEVILS 37-21-3

08-01-2009, 06:55 AM	#56
smokeyandthebandit05 Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Rich Location: Branchville Posts: 758 Trading: (1)	Re: So, I thought about doing the cash for clunker Well Ive had the car for a total of about 11 hours and my dad already managed to lock all 3 keys in the car __________________ MIAMI CANES 9-4 NJ DEVILS 37-21-3

08-01-2009, 07:17 AM	#57
GreekGodX Opa!! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Christos Location: 7 Line Posts: 4,893 Trading: (82)	Re: So, I thought about doing the cash for clunker If I had a car that qualified I would do this in a heartbeat. I think it's a great deal. Some local dealerships are also matching the government money. Bottom line is cars need to be sold. __________________ "If I give a businessman 10,000 francs, what is that to him, he is rich. But if I give him a Cohiba cigar, that is style."-Hotel Rwanda

08-01-2009, 08:14 AM	#58
ChasDen Guest Posts: n/a	Re: So, I thought about doing the cash for clunker Although I am against tax dollars being used for rebates on cars, I love the fact it happened. Gives great insight whats in store for Gov. ran health care. Confusion, server crashes, suppliers unable to submit paperwork, consumers limited by flow chart like requirements.... And this was just 200,000+ cars. Chas