Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum  

Go Back   Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum > Non Cigar Specialty Forums > Misc > General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-14-2010, 01:24 PM   #41
357
Will herf for food
 
357's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Mike
Location: Home is where I park it
Posts: 4,075
Trading: (9)
VR
357 is a splendid one to behold357 is a splendid one to behold357 is a splendid one to behold357 is a splendid one to behold357 is a splendid one to behold357 is a splendid one to behold
Default Re: Vegan dog food?!?!?!?!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nefari0us View Post
Where, might I ask, does one obtain Kangaroo meat? And is it fit for human consumption lol
I hear it is commonly eaten down under. Like venison is here, or so I've heard.
__________________
“Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar;” Mark Twain
357 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2010, 01:27 PM   #42
babybob2k
Just in from the Storm
 
babybob2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
First Name: Cory
Location: Ft. Worth, TX
Posts: 43
Trading: (1)
babybob2k is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Vegan dog food?!?!?!?!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nefari0us View Post
Where, might I ask, does one obtain Kangaroo meat? And is it fit for human consumption lol
http://www.exoticmeatsandmore.com/kangaroo.aspx

babybob2k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2010, 02:41 PM   #43
Blueface
Gramps 4x's
 
Blueface's Avatar
4
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Horatio Seymore Hiny
Location: Boca Raton - North of La Habana
Posts: 8,774
Trading: (8)
Bolivar
Blueface has disabled reputation
Default Re: Vegan dog food?!?!?!?!

Quote:
Originally Posted by kaisersozei View Post
Thanks for this article, my vet feels the same--the piece I quoted relates to problems that we've encountered with our pug (who acts more like a cat than a dog, anyway.) He couldn't tolerate beef, chicken or lamb for some reason, so the vet experimented with all kinds of diet modifications. Went through a vegan/grain heavy diet for awhile then offered the option of adding in one of the following types of animal protein: duck, pork, fish and kangaroo. We went with kangaroo, and he's now eating like a champ.
If you want to read up some more on his thoughts, here is his site:
www.therightremedy.com
__________________
Little known fact: I am a former member of the Village People - The Indian
Blueface is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2010, 03:12 PM   #44
gvarsity
still crazy
 
gvarsity's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 621
Trading: (15)
gvarsity will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Vegan dog food?!?!?!?!

So is the vegan dog food tested on animals? I can't tolerate animal testing.
gvarsity is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2010, 03:21 PM   #45
LasciviousXXX
Team of 11...Always
 
LasciviousXXX's Avatar
1
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Týr
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 4,579
Trading: (8)
VR
LasciviousXXX has disabled reputation
Default Re: Vegan dog food?!?!?!?!

IMO, dogs should eat other dogs... preferably smaller ones



My dog, about to eat Echo's dog
LasciviousXXX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2010, 03:21 PM   #46
LasciviousXXX
Team of 11...Always
 
LasciviousXXX's Avatar
1
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Týr
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 4,579
Trading: (8)
VR
LasciviousXXX has disabled reputation
Default Re: Vegan dog food?!?!?!?!

LOL, nah they're buds




My Rottie has a sensitive stomach, like most other Rotties. However, he does really well on Innova Evo Red Meat blend. No grains, high protein but good balance. I dig it
LasciviousXXX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2010, 09:04 AM   #47
kaisersozei
The Homebrew Hammer
 
kaisersozei's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Gerard
Location: Midlothian, VA
Posts: 3,183
Trading: (40)
Punch Army (Served With Honor)
kaisersozei is a name known to allkaisersozei is a name known to allkaisersozei is a name known to allkaisersozei is a name known to allkaisersozei is a name known to allkaisersozei is a name known to all
Default Re: Vegan dog food?!?!?!?!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nefari0us View Post
Where, might I ask, does one obtain Kangaroo meat? And is it fit for human consumption lol
It's a prescription (read $$$$!) dog food that has kangaroo meat as it's main protein source. We get the kibble, I think it's a Eukanuba vet product.
__________________

kaisersozei is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2010, 06:04 PM   #48
TheTraveler
giggity giggitty
 
TheTraveler's Avatar
1
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Jonathan
Location: Near a Walmart
Posts: 1,813
Trading: (12)
MarineCorps (Served With Honor)
TheTraveler has a spectacular aura aboutTheTraveler has a spectacular aura about
Default Re: Vegan dog food?!?!?!?!

My dog eats vegans.

__________________
"My life is my own."
TheTraveler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2010, 06:36 PM   #49
mariogolbee
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Vegan dog food?!?!?!?!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Subvet642 View Post
A vegan diet can kill a dog. There are vital proteins and amino acids that are only available from animal sources.
I'm not sure about the physiology of canines but we humans form most of the proteins and amino acids we need within our own bodies. The rest can be easily supplemented with nuts and a few other foods.

I have no position on the vegan dog issue but I imagine it could be perfectly healthy for dogs. Doesn't most dog food come out of a can or bag anyway? If the dog enjoys it and the food provides what it needs does it matter whether it contains meat products? These questions obviously have no bearing on those whom feed their dogs actual meat.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 10:06 AM   #50
T.G
Grrrrrr
 
T.G's Avatar
16
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
First Name: The Other Adam
Posts: 15,545
Trading: (37)
Navy (Served With Honor)
T.G has disabled reputation
Default Re: Vegan dog food?!?!?!?!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueface View Post
I wouldn't go that far with mine to put him on a veggie diet.
That is nuts.
Dogs are still 99% wolves.
Wolves eat meat.

I do however have mine on an all natural raw meat diet.
It is comprised of raw meat along with organic vegetables.
He loves it.
Use to be stubborn to eat, now can't wait for the next meal.
Comes frozen and I thaw out 24 hours in advance, in one ounce cubes.
Recommended by vet and makes total sense when you think about it as grain in the food is used as a filler and not good for them as not intended to be digested by them.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueface View Post
While they come in different meat types such as chicken, lamb, beef, turkey and sardine and on and on, and I give him all, here is the chicken as an example.
It contains lots of veggies but the main ingredient and focus is raw meat.
Nothing too good for my best friend.
He is slim and trim.
His coat is healthy.
He is a 13 year old that has the energy of a puppy.

So, while primarily meat based, this diet does contain a large aspect of "veggies" as I come to think of it.

Ingredients: Chicken, Chicken Necks, Ground Chicken Bones, Chicken Hearts, Organic Kale, Organic Carrots, Organic Yams, Chicken Livers, Organic Broccoli, Organic Apples, Organic Ground Flaxseed, Cranberries, Organic Apple Cider Vinegar, Organic Parsley, Organic Coconut Oil, Organic Kelp, Alfalfa, Mixed Tocopherols (source of vitamin E).
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueface View Post
If you want to read up some more on his thoughts, here is his site:
www.therightremedy.com

Thanks for the info Carlos.

What brand of food are you using?
T.G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 11:24 AM   #51
justonemorestick
Kat Krap Kontanment Media
 
justonemorestick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
First Name: Warren
Location: Las Cruces
Posts: 292
Trading: (13)
justonemorestick is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Vegan dog food?!?!?!?!

Quote:
Originally Posted by akumushi View Post
Reminds me of this Futurama.
That was just the episode I was thinking about.

I personally feed my Dane dry kibble lamb and rice and he seems to be doing great 28"+ and over 75lbs at 6 months. My rott had a fatty tumor and when I got away from a corm based feed it is reducing without any intervention. So is important to feed a dog proper food rather than some goofy new age vegan diet.
__________________
This message was created entirely of recycled electrons, manufactured before 1899 in an effort to prevent global de-electrification.
justonemorestick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 12:16 PM   #52
Blueface
Gramps 4x's
 
Blueface's Avatar
4
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Horatio Seymore Hiny
Location: Boca Raton - North of La Habana
Posts: 8,774
Trading: (8)
Bolivar
Blueface has disabled reputation
Default Re: Vegan dog food?!?!?!?!

Quote:
Originally Posted by T.G View Post
Thanks for the info Carlos.

What brand of food are you using?
Here you go:
http://www.primalpetfoods.com/
__________________
Little known fact: I am a former member of the Village People - The Indian
Blueface is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 12:23 PM   #53
SvilleKid
Yes I am a Pirate
 
SvilleKid's Avatar
7
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: 33°46′08″N 86°28′16″W / 33.76895°N 86.471037°W
Posts: 2,776
Trading: (52)
SvilleKid has disabled reputation
Default Re: Vegan dog food?!?!?!?!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Subvet642 View Post
A vegan diet can kill a dog. There are vital proteins and amino acids that are only available from animal sources.
Yep. This is well documented. The only problem..... Ever read the ingredient label for most dry dog foods? Almost all are nearly "Vegan" already. Full of a bunch of grains, very little meat-based proteins.

My dog(s) get table scraps, supplemented by good quality dog foods when needed. Most of my dogs live well past the normal live expectancy, so the diet must be working. Including the poultry bones. Never had a dog choke on a bone in the 50+ years I've been feeding them to dogs. Checked with my mother. She's 81. Fed their dogs scraps all their lives, never had one choke on a bone. Lots of good iron and protein in the marrow of those bones!!!
__________________
Ceilin' fan it stirs the air, Cigar smoke does swirl. The fragrance on the pillow case, and he thinks about the girl. Thanks, JB, 1975.
SvilleKid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 03:04 PM   #54
T.G
Grrrrrr
 
T.G's Avatar
16
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
First Name: The Other Adam
Posts: 15,545
Trading: (37)
Navy (Served With Honor)
T.G has disabled reputation
Default Re: Vegan dog food?!?!?!?!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueface View Post
Thanks bro.
T.G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 06:13 PM   #55
mosesbotbol
That's a Corgi
 
mosesbotbol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Moses
Location: Boston
Posts: 6,171
Trading: (6)
Punch
mosesbotbol is a jewel in the roughmosesbotbol is a jewel in the roughmosesbotbol is a jewel in the rough
Default Re: Vegan dog food?!?!?!?!

Raw turkey necks are great for larger dogs.
__________________
Port Wine & Claret | British Cars | Welsh Corgi's
mosesbotbol is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:49 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
All content is copyrighted jointly by Cigar Asylum and the content provider.