Which Router?

Zoomschwortz · 11-18-2010, 01:07 PM

I'm wanting to get a new router so I can hook my TV up to NetFlix.

I want to use an Ethernet cable and will be running my computer from this same router as well.

I see Ebay has a number of inexpensive routers (around $10) and wonder if any of these would be good enough for NetFlix?

Thanks
Ken

jmsremax · 11-18-2010, 02:40 PM

I wouldn't buy a router that isn't at least wireless G....I would recommend N though. I have a linksys wireless G router (3 years old) and it works just fine.

CRIMPS · 11-18-2010, 02:46 PM

Do you need wireless capabilities? Or, just a simple ethernet router?

Some phones, wireless tv's will only have wireless N capabilities. Not sure if that is important to you. Something to think about.

J0eybb · 11-18-2010, 03:13 PM

The new 'standard' is N. I use a motorola surfboard.

Bill86 · 11-18-2010, 03:14 PM

Some of the old linksys G's are VERY nice you can upload newer software to them and they are rock solid. Netgear are good as well, I would DEFINITELY get a wireless N though.

Zoomschwortz · 11-18-2010, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRIMPS

Do you need wireless capabilities? Or, just a simple ethernet router?

Some phones, wireless tv's will only have wireless N capabilities. Not sure if that is important to you. Something to think about.

My TV is about 25 feet from the computer and my computer is using a simple ethernet single port router, so I am wanting to stay with an ethernet cable and just upgrade to a multi-port router.

My computer can go wireless or cable and my TV can go wireless (if I buy the part that plugs into the TV) or cable.

The cable route looks like it will cost less and will not be a problem for me to run to the TV, so I'm thinking it may be the best way for me to go.

Just looking for one that is inexpensive, dependable, easy to set up and fast enough for running NetFlix and the online options that my TV has.

Thanks
Ken

Starz26 · 11-18-2010, 05:10 PM

What are you using for you internet connection? Many of the modems can be had with a built in router...

With that said, you can do one of several things:

buy an inexpensive 4 port ethernet hub and put it between your rounter and other devices (acts just like a USB hub and give you more ports)

get a new router - if you go this route, the big thing to make sure you get is a gigabit router 1Gb/s. While you may not use this now it will provide expandability as many newer devices are coming with 10/100/1000 ports. Balance this with the cost / need though..

If you do not need wireless do not worry about it. As for G or N, the only N device I have is my router, lol.....none of my other wireless devices support N so for me it does not matter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoomschwortz

My TV is about 25 feet from the computer and my computer is using a simple ethernet single port router, so I am wanting to stay with an ethernet cable and just upgrade to a multi-port router.

My computer can go wireless or cable and my TV can go wireless (if I buy the part that plugs into the TV) or cable.

The cable route looks like it will cost less and will not be a problem for me to run to the TV, so I'm thinking it may be the best way for me to go.

Just looking for one that is inexpensive, dependable, easy to set up and fast enough for running NetFlix and the online options that my TV has.

Thanks
Ken

Zoomschwortz · 11-19-2010, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starz26

What are you using for you internet connection? Many of the modems can be had with a built in router...

With that said, you can do one of several things:

buy an inexpensive 4 port ethernet hub and put it between your rounter and other devices (acts just like a USB hub and give you more ports)

get a new router - if you go this route, the big thing to make sure you get is a gigabit router 1Gb/s. While you may not use this now it will provide expandability as many newer devices are coming with 10/100/1000 ports. Balance this with the cost / need though..

If you do not need wireless do not worry about it. As for G or N, the only N device I have is my router, lol.....none of my other wireless devices support N so for me it does not matter.

Your first question shows what I know. I was thinking that a Router and modem were one in the same thing.

At this time, I have a Qwest DSL modem (Actiontec model GT701) that has only 1 ethernet outlet in back.

There will be times when the computer and TV will be used at the same time. With that being said, will any of these options give me better, or worse performance than the others?

Thanks for your help.
Ken

357 · 11-19-2010, 07:01 AM

Based upon your description you may be able to just buy a 4-8 port switch. A switch can be put between your router and your TV and/or other devices. You don't need to worry about port speeds too much with the router port as I'm sure even 10/100 will be more than anything your ISP can throw at you bandwidth-wise. Even Comcast business class top of the line option is only 50mb/s. If you have any device to device transfers(inside the router) like from one pc to another then and only then will port speeds make a difference. And, in such a case a gigabit switch would still be much cheaper and easier than replacing the router.

Zoomschwortz · 11-19-2010, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 357

Based upon your description you may be able to just buy a 4-8 port switch. A switch can be put between your router and your TV and/or other devices. You don't need to worry about port speeds too much with the router port as I'm sure even 10/100 will be more than anything your ISP can throw at you bandwidth-wise. Even Comcast business class top of the line option is only 50mb/s. If you have any device to device transfers(inside the router) like from one pc to another then and only then will port speeds make a difference. And, in such a case a gigabit switch would still be much cheaper and easier than replacing the router.

Thank you for your help.

This is the modem that I have.
http://www.actiontec.com/products/product.php?pid=70

Will a port switch work with this modem and allow me to use the TV and computer at the same time?

Thanks again.
Ken

Starz26 · 11-19-2010, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoomschwortz

Thank you for your help.

This is the modem that I have.
http://www.actiontec.com/products/product.php?pid=70

Will a port switch work with this modem and allow me to use the TV and computer at the same time?

Thanks again.
Ken

Looks like the modem can handle routing so a switch would work. Alternately you could connect the computer via USB and the TV via ethernet and not need the switch at all.

If you need help configuring let me know and we can talk via phone or connect via webex and I can set things up for ya...

357 · 11-19-2010, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoomschwortz

Thank you for your help.

This is the modem that I have.
http://www.actiontec.com/products/product.php?pid=70

Will a port switch work with this modem and allow me to use the TV and computer at the same time?

Thanks again.
Ken

Do you have another ethernet router already between this modem and your devices, or is this the router you were referring to?

I guess my question isn't that pertinent, but I am curious. Anyway, yes. If you plug this modem into an ethernet switch, then plug your TV and your computer/etc into the switch, it should work fine.

357 · 11-19-2010, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starz26

Looks like the modem can handle routing so a switch would work. Alternately you could connect the computer via USB and the TV via ethernet and not need the switch at all.

If you need help configuring let me know and we can talk via phone or connect via webex and I can set things up for ya...

This could be a viable alternative assuming you only need these two devices connected.

Zoomschwortz · 11-19-2010, 08:16 AM

At this time, all I have is this modem and the computer is connected to it by an Ethernet cable.

I just tried disconnecting the Ethernet cable and connecting the computer to the modem with a USB cable.

The computer could not make a connection to the internet.

I then installed the the software that came with the modem and still could not get a connection to the internet.

I switched everything back to the Ethernet cable so I could get back online.

I'm not sure why the USB won't work, but it sure sounded like a good idea if it did. If I can get it to work, then all I will need to buy is a 25 foot Ethernet cable for the TV and I'll be in business.

Any ideas?

Thanks again
Ken

357 · 11-19-2010, 08:23 AM

To be honest, I'm not a huge fan of having the modem directly connected to a PC. I know it has router capabilities, but a true dedicated router will provide better security IMO. They can be had cheap, especially since you don't need wireless. However, you can get a cheap WiFi router with 4 ethernet ports for about $30.

Here's a link to one with 802.11N capabilities and a 4 ethernet ports for $30.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/D-Link+-...&skuId=9706754

This will resolve all your issues, provide better security, and give you Wireless capabilites should you ever want them in the future.

Zoomschwortz · 11-19-2010, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 357

To be honest, I'm not a huge fan of having the modem directly connected to a PC. I know it has router capabilities, but a true dedicated router will provide better security IMO. They can be had cheap, especially since you don't need wireless. However, you can get a cheap WiFi router with 4 ethernet ports for about $30.

Here's a link to one with 802.11N capabilities and a 4 ethernet ports for $30.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/D-Link+-...&skuId=9706754

This will resolve all your issues, provide better security, and give you Wireless capabilites should you ever want them in the future.

This looks good.

So if I understand correctly, this will connect to my modem and then I connect my computer and TV to it and I can go wireless sometime in the future if I choose.
If I got this right, then it looks like a winner to me.

Thanks for all of your help.

Have a great day.
Ken

357 · 11-19-2010, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoomschwortz

This looks good.

So if I understand correctly, this will connect to my modem and then I connect my computer and TV to it and I can go wireless sometime in the future if I choose.
If I got this right, then it looks like a winner to me.

Thanks for all of your help.

Have a great day.
Ken

You are dead on.

The router will come with instructions on how to configure the Wi-Fi. It will instruct you to connect a PC or laptop with ethernet (as you described), then go to a certain web address (probably https://192.168.1.1 ) which will be the inside/private IP of your new router. From there you can enter the admin username/password and configure/disable WiFi as you see fit. When you set it up, make sure to change the default password to something else, and either disable the Wireless or at least configure it with WPA2 with a PSK (Pre-Shared Key).

WPA2 is a type of encryption that is very secure. People who want to use your WiFi would have to put in this password (PSK) in order to to connect, then all the traffic is encrypted with WPA2 to prevent malicious neighbors/etc from snooping your internet traffic.

PM me if you need help. I usually frequent CA during business hours M-F, so I may not get back to you ASAP, but I will do what I can to help.

Zoomschwortz · 11-20-2010, 09:01 AM

Thanks to everyone for all of their help.

Have a great weekend.
Ken

Zoomschwortz · 11-20-2010, 09:35 AM

Do you know of any problems using Windows 7 with the D-Link - Wireless-N 150 Router?

I saw 1 review that a person couldn't make it work with Windows 7.

My computer is a HP Pavilion Elite with I-7 860 processor and it is using windows 7. It also has a wireless LAN 802.11b/g/n

Thanks again.
Ken

ashtonlady · 11-21-2010, 06:06 PM

Linksys delivered. Enjoy.

11-18-2010, 01:07 PM	#1
Zoomschwortz I'm back Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Washington State Posts: 470 Trading: (3)	Which Router? I'm wanting to get a new router so I can hook my TV up to NetFlix. I want to use an Ethernet cable and will be running my computer from this same router as well. I see Ebay has a number of inexpensive routers (around $10) and wonder if any of these would be good enough for NetFlix? Thanks Ken

11-18-2010, 02:40 PM	#2
jmsremax Yet another Masshole Join Date: Nov 2009 First Name: Jon Location: MA Posts: 1,245 Trading: (19)	Re: Which Router? I wouldn't buy a router that isn't at least wireless G....I would recommend N though. I have a linksys wireless G router (3 years old) and it works just fine. __________________ Stock/Finance banter

11-18-2010, 02:46 PM	#3
CRIMPS Benn/Seguin best friends Join Date: Sep 2010 First Name: Zach Location: North Texas Posts: 1,520 Trading: (50)	Re: Which Router? Do you need wireless capabilities? Or, just a simple ethernet router? Some phones, wireless tv's will only have wireless N capabilities. Not sure if that is important to you. Something to think about. __________________ I'm a Dallas Stars fan. So, yes, this is a confusing time for me.

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Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: Which Router? Some of the old linksys G's are VERY nice you can upload newer software to them and they are rock solid. Netgear are good as well, I would DEFINITELY get a wireless N though.

11-19-2010, 07:01 AM	#9
357 Will herf for food Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: Home is where I park it Posts: 4,075 Trading: (9)	Re: Which Router? Based upon your description you may be able to just buy a 4-8 port switch. A switch can be put between your router and your TV and/or other devices. You don't need to worry about port speeds too much with the router port as I'm sure even 10/100 will be more than anything your ISP can throw at you bandwidth-wise. Even Comcast business class top of the line option is only 50mb/s. If you have any device to device transfers(inside the router) like from one pc to another then and only then will port speeds make a difference. And, in such a case a gigabit switch would still be much cheaper and easier than replacing the router. __________________ “Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar;” Mark Twain

11-19-2010, 08:16 AM	#14
Zoomschwortz I'm back Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Washington State Posts: 470 Trading: (3)	Re: Which Router? At this time, all I have is this modem and the computer is connected to it by an Ethernet cable. I just tried disconnecting the Ethernet cable and connecting the computer to the modem with a USB cable. The computer could not make a connection to the internet. I then installed the the software that came with the modem and still could not get a connection to the internet. I switched everything back to the Ethernet cable so I could get back online. I'm not sure why the USB won't work, but it sure sounded like a good idea if it did. If I can get it to work, then all I will need to buy is a 25 foot Ethernet cable for the TV and I'll be in business. Any ideas? Thanks again Ken

11-19-2010, 08:23 AM	#15
357 Will herf for food Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: Home is where I park it Posts: 4,075 Trading: (9)	Re: Which Router? To be honest, I'm not a huge fan of having the modem directly connected to a PC. I know it has router capabilities, but a true dedicated router will provide better security IMO. They can be had cheap, especially since you don't need wireless. However, you can get a cheap WiFi router with 4 ethernet ports for about $30. Here's a link to one with 802.11N capabilities and a 4 ethernet ports for $30. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/D-Link+-...&skuId=9706754 This will resolve all your issues, provide better security, and give you Wireless capabilites should you ever want them in the future. __________________ “Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar;” Mark Twain

11-20-2010, 09:01 AM	#18
Zoomschwortz I'm back Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Washington State Posts: 470 Trading: (3)	Re: Which Router? Thanks to everyone for all of their help. Have a great weekend. Ken

11-20-2010, 09:35 AM	#19
Zoomschwortz I'm back Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Washington State Posts: 470 Trading: (3)	Re: Which Router? Do you know of any problems using Windows 7 with the D-Link - Wireless-N 150 Router? I saw 1 review that a person couldn't make it work with Windows 7. My computer is a HP Pavilion Elite with I-7 860 processor and it is using windows 7. It also has a wireless LAN 802.11b/g/n Thanks again. Ken

11-21-2010, 06:06 PM	#20
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