MOLD!!! Help!! - Page 2

troutbreath · 08-21-2009, 10:02 AM

Not to hijack, but . . .

Why do Anejo's mold more easily than other cigars wrapped in cedar?

08-21-2009, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by newcigarz

I would get some DampRid. I use it in my Aristocrat sometimes to bring the humidity down, here is S. Florida. Bob Staebell actually recommended it.

I agree that I would try this stuff.

The beads won't do a damn thing to lower the humidity. They never have and never will. It's a mistake to rely on them when the conditions are as you describe.

Use the Damp Rid to lower it and then the beads can help bring it back to where it should be.

08-21-2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by troutbreath

Not to hijack, but . . .

Why do Anejo's mold more easily than other cigars wrapped in cedar?

probably because the tobacco was more moist when it was rolled.

GreekGodX · 08-21-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by joed

I agree that I would try this stuff.

The beads won't do a damn thing to lower the humidity. They never have and never will. It's a mistake to rely on them when the conditions are as you describe.

Use the Damp Rid to lower it and then the beads can help bring it back to where it should be.

I was under the impression that shilala bead's absorbed and released humidity.. Maybe you aren't using enough beads for your humi?

shilala · 08-21-2009, 11:09 AM

My outside humidor was up to about 70%.
I stuck the whole thing in the fridge, propped open the lid, and dried it out in a few days.
It's settled right in at 64%.
The RH in the fridge is about 40%.
When I took it out, I immediately closed it so there would be no condensation on the sticks. The outside was cold also, and I just wiped the water off of her as she warmed up from the outside in.
If the humi doesn't seal, and it sounds as if it doesn't at all, you can fix it using some foam and a clasp. Either that, or throw it away and use a rubbermaid container.

shilala · 08-21-2009, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GreekGodX

I was under the impression that shilala bead's absorbed and released humidity.. Maybe you aren't using enough beads for your humi?

They do. They'll only do it in a controlled, sealed environment.
A pound of beads can't regulate the RH of the entire state of Texas.

You simply can't compensate for a leaking humidor, no matter how many beads, hydras or damprid you use.
Humidors are to be AIR TIGHT. Anything else isn't a humidor, it's just called a "problem".
Ziplock bags are a better solution than a humidor that leaks.
It's not hard to fix a leaky humidor. I just reworked a couple for longknocker last week. I fixed a couple for sofaman, too.
It's not difficult, and it's not expensive.

md4958 · 08-21-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BUCASmoker

no air conditioning, and i live in an old victorian building that doesn't have windows. only a few doors that open up. the rest are french doors that are painted shut.

I have a very easy solution for you my friend, move to a place with A/C

try what the fellas are telling ya to get the humidity down, and then go to your local B&M and look in the sticks of empty boxes for the cedar blocks. Ask if you can buy just those (they might just give them to ya)... they will help soak up a little humidity and help with the fluctuations

GreekGodX · 08-21-2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by shilala

They do. They'll only do it in a controlled, sealed environment.
A pound of beads can't regulate the RH of the entire state of Texas.

You simply can't compensate for a leaking humidor, no matter how many beads, hydras or damprid you use.
Humidors are to be AIR TIGHT. Anything else isn't a humidor, it's just called a "problem".
Ziplock bags are a better solution than a humidor that leaks.
It's not hard to fix a leaky humidor. I just reworked a couple for longknocker last week. I fixed a couple for sofaman, too.
It's not difficult, and it's not expensive.

So it seems the problem is solved. Brotha needs to fix the humi

shilala · 08-21-2009, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GreekGodX

So it seems the problem is solved. Brotha needs to fix the humi

That's what it takes.

Or go to Wally and buy a 2 gallon rubbermaid for 10 bucks. They work great.

BUCASmoker · 08-21-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bax

Are you using the analog hygro by any chance? If you are dump it and get a digital. Those dial gauges are almost worthless.

digital. did a salt test, and it was 100% right on

BUCASmoker · 08-21-2009, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by shilala

That's what it takes.

Or go to Wally and buy a 2 gallon rubbermaid for 10 bucks. They work great.

Might have to do that.

Look for a "WTS - Firewood" in the next few days

Bax · 08-21-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by troutbreath

Not to hijack, but . . .

Why do Anejo's mold more easily than other cigars wrapped in cedar?

Most belive it's the extra sugar in the wrapper. They're aged in old whiskey barrels and as a result they get mold under the sleeve very easily. Even in ideal conditions.

shilala · 08-21-2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BUCASmoker

Might have to do that.

Look for a "WTS - Firewood" in the next few days

Seriously. You're screwing up your smokes. They'd be better of sitting on the kitchen table.
If you wanna send your humi to me, I'll fix it.

BUCASmoker · 08-22-2009, 08:22 PM

I put the smokes in 2 gallon size freezer bags, with a bag of beads in each... still at 77% after 24 hours... what the heck is going on?

shilala · 08-22-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BUCASmoker

I put the smokes in 2 gallon size freezer bags, with a bag of beads in each... still at 77% after 24 hours... what the heck is going on?

The beads assumed the RH from the leaky humi. You have to readjust them. Read the directions, brother.

08-23-2009, 08:03 AM

get a cooler, and use some ice packs to lower the humidity inside it..

BUCASmoker · 08-23-2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by shilala

The beads assumed the RH from the leaky humi. You have to readjust them. Read the directions, brother.

I'll put them in the freezer this evening and try to get them lower. Buying a cooler this afternoon

shilala · 08-23-2009, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BUCASmoker

I'll put them in the freezer this evening and try to get them lower. Buying a cooler this afternoon

Put them in the fridge right now, and they'll probably be down low enough to use when you get your cooler. The fridge will dry them out pretty good.
THE MOMENT you take them out of the firdge you have to put them in a ziplock and suck the air out, or water will condense on them and you'll have defeated your purpose.
It will take multiple, multiple adjustments to get those soggy cigars dried out. It's not going to take a couple days, it's gonna take weeks or months.
It didn't take two days to get them soggy, ya know?

tchariya · 08-23-2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BUCASmoker

no air conditioning, and i live in an old victorian building that doesn't have windows. only a few doors that open up. the rest are french doors that are painted shut.

After you dry out your beads and re-prep them:

Get a thick trash bag (drawstring type) and cover your humidor and throw the humidor in the back of the closet.

BUCASmoker · 08-23-2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by shilala

Put them in the fridge right now, and they'll probably be down low enough to use when you get your cooler. The fridge will dry them out pretty good.
THE MOMENT you take them out of the firdge you have to put them in a ziplock and suck the air out, or water will condense on them and you'll have defeated your purpose.
It will take multiple, multiple adjustments to get those soggy cigars dried out. It's not going to take a couple days, it's gonna take weeks or months.
It didn't take two days to get them soggy, ya know?

Most of the cigars arent soggy... just a few here and there.

08-21-2009, 10:02 AM	#21
troutbreath Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: The Dash, NC Posts: 706 Trading: (0)	Re: MOLD!!! Help!! Not to hijack, but . . . Why do Anejo's mold more easily than other cigars wrapped in cedar?

08-21-2009, 11:09 AM	#25
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: MOLD!!! Help!! My outside humidor was up to about 70%. I stuck the whole thing in the fridge, propped open the lid, and dried it out in a few days. It's settled right in at 64%. The RH in the fridge is about 40%. When I took it out, I immediately closed it so there would be no condensation on the sticks. The outside was cold also, and I just wiped the water off of her as she warmed up from the outside in. If the humi doesn't seal, and it sounds as if it doesn't at all, you can fix it using some foam and a clasp. Either that, or throw it away and use a rubbermaid container. __________________

08-22-2009, 08:22 PM	#34
BUCASmoker Where the sun never sets Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Vadim Location: Newport Posts: 267 Trading: (9)	Re: MOLD!!! Help!! I put the smokes in 2 gallon size freezer bags, with a bag of beads in each... still at 77% after 24 hours... what the heck is going on?

08-23-2009, 08:03 AM	#36
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