Almst had my first B&M experience.

pektel · 02-18-2013, 09:29 AM

So, I live in a small town. Well, 6 miles out from a small town. The "B&M" shop here is essentially a place that sells pot pipes, sex novelties, and has a small walk in humidor. The humidor is laughable at best. For a LONG time, I've wanted to visit a REAL brick and mortar shop, to see what most of you on here have actual access to.

This past weekend, I took my kids down to the Minneapolis/St. Paul area for an overnight hotel stay, then Chuck E Cheese and a small shopping spree at Toys R Us in Maple Grove. Which just so happened to be within a few minutes from Tobacco Grove. So after the kids' fun, I stopped in for a peek.

To be honest, I didn't want to leave. There were people in there that actually knew about and liked to talk about cigars! (Fun fact: I've never been to a herf either, so being able to talk cigars with other people in person was a great experience). But alas, the gf and kids were waiting in the car, so I was out in 10 minutes. Picked up a 2011 Viaje Holiday Blend robusto, 2012 Holiday Blend torp, a viaje Skull and Bones Little Boy (1st release), Tat Black petit lancero, and the guy in the humidor talked me into trying the new Cain F lancero tubo.

After leaving, went to a liquor store, picked up a 4 pack of Surly Abrasive, 6 pack of Bell's Hopslam, and a bottle of Stone Vertical Epic 12-12-12, none of which I can get in my small town liquor store.

SO I''ve made it a point to actually get down there by myself sometime, and really visit a B&M or 2, and spend enough time for a smoke or 2.

To those that have an actual B&M shop nearby, consider yourselves lucky. I wish there was an escape like that around here for me to support.

cmitch · 02-18-2013, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by pektel

So, I live in a small town. Well, 6 miles out from a small town. The "B&M" shop here is essentially a place that sells pot pipes, sex novelties, and has a small walk in humidor. The humidor is laughable at best. For a LONG time, I've wanted to visit a REAL brick and mortar shop, to see what most of you on here have actual access to.

This past weekend, I took my kids down to the Minneapolis/St. Paul area for an overnight hotel stay, then Chuck E Cheese and a small shopping spree at Toys R Us in Maple Grove. Which just so happened to be within a few minutes from Tobacco Grove. So after the kids' fun, I stopped in for a peek.

To be honest, I didn't want to leave. There were people in there that actually knew about and liked to talk about cigars! (Fun fact: I've never been to a herf either, so being able to talk cigars with other people in person was a great experience). But alas, the gf and kids were waiting in the car, so I was out in 10 minutes. Picked up a 2011 Viaje Holiday Blend robusto, 2012 Holiday Blend torp, a viaje Skull and Bones Little Boy (1st release), Tat Black petit lancero, and the guy in the humidor talked me into trying the new Cain F lancero tubo.

After leaving, went to a liquor store, picked up a 4 pack of Surly Abrasive, 6 pack of Bell's Hopslam, and a bottle of Stone Vertical Epic 12-12-12, none of which I can get in my small town liquor store.

SO I''ve made it a point to actually get down there by myself sometime, and really visit a B&M or 2, and spend enough time for a smoke or 2.

To those that have an actual B&M shop nearby, consider yourselves lucky. I wish there was an escape like that around here for me to support.

This is fabulous. There are B&M's that will disappoint you, too. Those that do not value their customers like our 1 and only shop. I don't go there but I travel to the Cigar Room in Madison, AL, Vitolas in Birmingham, Patriot Cigars in Huntsville, AL to name a few. I give these guys all high marks on customer service. If you find one, stick with them. The long haul will tell you all you need to know. If they're still helpful and friendly after visiting a few months, then you will know they are a keeper. Unfortunately, with a FEW B&M's, familiarity breeds contempt.

CigarNut · 02-18-2013, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by pektel

So, I live in a small town. Well, 6 miles out from a small town. The "B&M" shop here is essentially a place that sells pot pipes, sex novelties, and has a small walk in humidor. The humidor is laughable at best. For a LONG time, I've wanted to visit a REAL brick and mortar shop, to see what most of you on here have actual access to.

This past weekend, I took my kids down to the Minneapolis/St. Paul area for an overnight hotel stay, then Chuck E Cheese and a small shopping spree at Toys R Us in Maple Grove. Which just so happened to be within a few minutes from Tobacco Grove. So after the kids' fun, I stopped in for a peek.

To be honest, I didn't want to leave. There were people in there that actually knew about and liked to talk about cigars! (Fun fact: I've never been to a herf either, so being able to talk cigars with other people in person was a great experience). But alas, the gf and kids were waiting in the car, so I was out in 10 minutes. Picked up a 2011 Viaje Holiday Blend robusto, 2012 Holiday Blend torp, a viaje Skull and Bones Little Boy (1st release), Tat Black petit lancero, and the guy in the humidor talked me into trying the new Cain F lancero tubo.

After leaving, went to a liquor store, picked up a 4 pack of Surly Abrasive, 6 pack of Bell's Hopslam, and a bottle of Stone Vertical Epic 12-12-12, none of which I can get in my small town liquor store.

SO I''ve made it a point to actually get down there by myself sometime, and really visit a B&M or 2, and spend enough time for a smoke or 2.

To those that have an actual B&M shop nearby, consider yourselves lucky. I wish there was an escape like that around here for me to support.

Glad that you were able to do this. I am lucky that I have a number of B&M's nearby and I try to patronize each of them when I can -- in order to keep them around.

AdamJoshua · 02-18-2013, 10:09 AM

You had me at 'sex novelties'!

Was it just a shop or did they have a lounge you could smoke in, if not, I highly suggest if you head back to the big city see if there's a lounge, it's a wonderful experience to sit in a nice comfortable leather chair and enjoy a drink and stick. Consider it the adult version of chuckie cheese + toys r us!

Fordman4ever · 02-18-2013, 10:16 AM

That's awesome. you'll enjoy the Cain F tubo. great smoke.

pektel · 02-18-2013, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AdamJoshua

You had me at 'sex novelties'!

Was it just a shop or did they have a lounge you could smoke in, if not, I highly suggest if you head back to the big city see if there's a lounge, it's a wonderful experience to sit in a nice comfortable leather chair and enjoy a drink and stick. Consider it the adult version of chuckie cheese + toys r us!

I could smell the smoke from the moment I stepped out of the vehicle, and I cracked a smile. It was a lounge too. Guys enjoying a book and a smoke, guys BS'ing and enjoying a cigar, and others at a table playing cards. That was one of the parts I enjoyed most about the place. I didn't take note if anyone had drinks, as I was kind of in sensory overload.

pektel · 02-18-2013, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CigarNut

Glad that you were able to do this. I am lucky that I have a number of B&M's nearby and I try to patronize each of them when I can -- in order to keep them around.

I was a bit surprised by the prices of the cigars, but it is more of a MN tobacco tax than anything else. 70% wholesale tax. I believe that it's near the highest in the country. So a Fuente Between the Lines was 15.97, the Viaje holiday blends were 13.50, and the S&B was 13.75. Don't remember the rest that I looked at, though they did have some Summerfest sticks left that I was tempted to pick up as well.

Even so, The prices were entirely worth it for what the place had to offer its patrons.

MarkinAZ · 02-18-2013, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by pektel

But alas, the gf and kids were waiting in the car, so I was out in 10 minutes. Picked up a 2011 Viaje Holiday Blend robusto, 2012 Holiday Blend torp, a viaje Skull and Bones Little Boy (1st release), Tat Black petit lancero, and the guy in the humidor talked me into trying the new Cain F lancero tubo...

... That's funny Peter. Amazing what you can accomplish in a 10 min span huh? Hope you can make it back at some point in time (by yourself) where you can spend a little QT for a day or so

And... they have a web site too

http://tobaccogrove.com/

Bondo 287 · 02-18-2013, 11:10 AM

Excellent story, Pete. Thanks for sharing your experience. I can relate because there aren't any decent B&M by me either.

cjhalbrooks · 02-18-2013, 11:20 AM

have you tried Indian River in GR. thats not too bad

pektel · 02-18-2013, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cjhalbrooks

have you tried Indian River in GR. thats not too bad

Nothing by that name here. Are you thinking of Grand Rapids, Michigan perhaps? I'm in Minnesota. The population of the Grand Rapids here is under 10,000.

AdamJoshua · 02-18-2013, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by pektel

I was a bit surprised by the prices of the cigars, but it is more of a MN tobacco tax than anything else. 70% wholesale tax. I believe that it's near the highest in the country. So a Fuente Between the Lines was 15.97, the Viaje holiday blends were 13.50, and the S&B was 13.75. Don't remember the rest that I looked at, though they did have some Summerfest sticks left that I was tempted to pick up as well.

Even so, The prices were entirely worth it for what the place had to offer its patrons.

Same here I think Cali is 63%, that being said, if you are just getting a couple sticks, considering shipping fees it's almost break even, unless you are talking top shelf stuff, those I have noticed have a premium on them at the local B&M

pektel · 02-18-2013, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkinCA

... That's funny Peter. Amazing what you can accomplish in a 10 min span huh? Hope you can make it back at some point in time (by yourself) where you can spend a little QT for a day or so

And... they have a web site too

http://tobaccogrove.com/

I told the gf once I got back out to the car that I was coming down again soon, but by myself, and checking out this place in it's entirety, plus maybe a visit to a couple others I've read about.

Yep, I actually looked up their website this morning, to order a 5 pack they had in the humi. Unfortunately, I have to pay a price higher than the website lists, because of the MN tax. But they had a 5 pack consisting of a Holiday blend robusto, two of the 50/50 (red label, different vitolas), a summer fest, and one other one for $55.

mkarnold1 · 02-18-2013, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by pektel

I could smell the smoke from the moment I stepped out of the vehicle, and I cracked a smile. It was a lounge too. Guys enjoying a book and a smoke, guys BS'ing and enjoying a cigar, and others at a table playing cards. That was one of the parts I enjoyed most about the place. I didn't take note if anyone had drinks, as I was kind of in sensory overload.

Both Tobacco Grove and Burn are top notch places to enjoy a smoke or three. They unfortunately do not allow you to enjoy an alcoholic beverage while smoking, though.

Mattso3000 · 02-18-2013, 11:36 AM

Tobacco Grove is a great place. Just let us know the next time you make it down

mahtofire14 · 02-18-2013, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mkarnold1

Both Tobacco Grove and Burn are top notch places to enjoy a smoke or three. They unfortunately do not allow you to enjoy an alcoholic beverage while smoking, though.

Mark is right. You should swing down on the 28th hit up both of them and then swing into GoodFellas on the east side for the long ash competition! Hit all three good shops in the cities! And the owner of Goodfellas let's us bring alcohol in. Whether it's legal or not though, I have no idea......

pektel · 02-18-2013, 11:58 AM

It was an unplanned stop. It just crossed my mind to stop there when I remembered it was close by. Next time I'll let you guys know

The 28th? I might be able to swing that. Though I believe the gf and I have tickets to a Big Wu acoustic performance in Duluth on the 1st.

BSB · 02-18-2013, 12:06 PM

NICE! You popped your B&M cherry at a GREAT place. Tobacco Grove is my favorite MN cigar store and 2nd favorite in the country. But, those taxes are a bit*h!

Porch Dweller · 02-18-2013, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pektel

I was a bit surprised by the prices of the cigars, but it is more of a MN tobacco tax than anything else. 70% wholesale tax. I believe that it's near the highest in the country. So a Fuente Between the Lines was 15.97, the Viaje holiday blends were 13.50, and the S&B was 13.75. Don't remember the rest that I looked at, though they did have some Summerfest sticks left that I was tempted to pick up as well.

Even so, The prices were entirely worth it for what the place had to offer its patrons.

The prices - mainly from tax - are what keep me from buying a lot of cigars in my B&M. But I still try to go there once a month and pick up four or five sticks. It's a way for me to support a local business, shoot the breeze with the staff about this wonderful hobby, and try out some single cigars that are normally out of my price range (normally I'll order a five-pack online to try a new cigar, but my budget has limits.) I don't know if I'd have ever tried a My Father, Ashton VSG, La Aroma de Cuba, or AF Don Carlos if it hadn't have been for my B&M, and that would have been a damned shame.

themoneycollector · 02-18-2013, 02:21 PM

B&M's can be hit or miss, and unfortunately taxes don't help out. I don't get to spend as much time at B&M's as I would like to.

Sounds like you discovered a nice spot, that's one of the beautiful things about the hobby - being able to chat and talk with people who share your passion for cigars.

It is nice to be able to herf with friends at a nice B&M, but if that's not possible, the virtual brothers here on CA are just as amazing.

02-18-2013, 09:29 AM	#1
pektel I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Peter Location: Grand Rapids, MN Posts: 4,320 Trading: (28)	Almst had my first B&M experience. So, I live in a small town. Well, 6 miles out from a small town. The "B&M" shop here is essentially a place that sells pot pipes, sex novelties, and has a small walk in humidor. The humidor is laughable at best. For a LONG time, I've wanted to visit a REAL brick and mortar shop, to see what most of you on here have actual access to. This past weekend, I took my kids down to the Minneapolis/St. Paul area for an overnight hotel stay, then Chuck E Cheese and a small shopping spree at Toys R Us in Maple Grove. Which just so happened to be within a few minutes from Tobacco Grove. So after the kids' fun, I stopped in for a peek. To be honest, I didn't want to leave. There were people in there that actually knew about and liked to talk about cigars! (Fun fact: I've never been to a herf either, so being able to talk cigars with other people in person was a great experience). But alas, the gf and kids were waiting in the car, so I was out in 10 minutes. Picked up a 2011 Viaje Holiday Blend robusto, 2012 Holiday Blend torp, a viaje Skull and Bones Little Boy (1st release), Tat Black petit lancero, and the guy in the humidor talked me into trying the new Cain F lancero tubo. After leaving, went to a liquor store, picked up a 4 pack of Surly Abrasive, 6 pack of Bell's Hopslam, and a bottle of Stone Vertical Epic 12-12-12, none of which I can get in my small town liquor store. SO I''ve made it a point to actually get down there by myself sometime, and really visit a B&M or 2, and spend enough time for a smoke or 2. To those that have an actual B&M shop nearby, consider yourselves lucky. I wish there was an escape like that around here for me to support. __________________ The problem is not the problem. The problem is your ATTITUDE about the problem.

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AdamJoshua Article 4 Free Inhabitant Join Date: Jan 2013 First Name: The Other Adam Location: Satellite Beach Posts: 14,781 Trading: (40)	Re: Almst had my first B&M experience. You had me at 'sex novelties'! Was it just a shop or did they have a lounge you could smoke in, if not, I highly suggest if you head back to the big city see if there's a lounge, it's a wonderful experience to sit in a nice comfortable leather chair and enjoy a drink and stick. Consider it the adult version of chuckie cheese + toys r us!

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Fordman4ever Redneck driving a ricer!! Join Date: Dec 2010 First Name: Earl Location: A place too cold to smoke outside Posts: 2,508 Trading: (26)	Re: Almst had my first B&M experience. That's awesome. you'll enjoy the Cain F tubo. great smoke. __________________

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Bondo 287 Runaway Train Join Date: Jan 2013 First Name: Mikael Location: Unstable, PA Posts: 389 Trading: (0)	Re: Almst had my first B&M experience. Excellent story, Pete. Thanks for sharing your experience. I can relate because there aren't any decent B&M by me either.

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Mattso3000 Will ninja for beer Join Date: Aug 2010 First Name: Matt Location: Burnsville, MN Posts: 2,842 Trading: (20)	Re: Almst had my first B&M experience. Tobacco Grove is a great place. Just let us know the next time you make it down __________________ Please Support the Troop Support Contest!

02-18-2013, 11:58 AM	#17
pektel I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Peter Location: Grand Rapids, MN Posts: 4,320 Trading: (28)	Re: Almst had my first B&M experience. It was an unplanned stop. It just crossed my mind to stop there when I remembered it was close by. Next time I'll let you guys know The 28th? I might be able to swing that. Though I believe the gf and I have tickets to a Big Wu acoustic performance in Duluth on the 1st. __________________ The problem is not the problem. The problem is your ATTITUDE about the problem.

02-18-2013, 12:06 PM	#18
BSB Feeling at Home Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Bob Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 897 Trading: (13)	Re: Almst had my first B&M experience. NICE! You popped your B&M cherry at a GREAT place. Tobacco Grove is my favorite MN cigar store and 2nd favorite in the country. But, those taxes are a bit*h! __________________ Ad majorem Dei gloriam!

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themoneycollector Nicotiana Tabacum Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hill AFB, UT Posts: 1,258 Trading: (108)	Re: Almst had my first B&M experience. B&M's can be hit or miss, and unfortunately taxes don't help out. I don't get to spend as much time at B&M's as I would like to. Sounds like you discovered a nice spot, that's one of the beautiful things about the hobby - being able to chat and talk with people who share your passion for cigars. It is nice to be able to herf with friends at a nice B&M, but if that's not possible, the virtual brothers here on CA are just as amazing.