Pumping Iron with Adriftpanda,Chainsaw13 and Icehog3 II - Page 59

swingerofbirches · 03-06-2015, 04:54 PM

Nice work, Tom!

Today was 5x5 Squats (315) & Leg Press (720)

Did some arm work today but stopped when my left shoulder (my typically good one) started hurting too much.
4 Sets : Close Grip Cable Pull Downs (progressive load 180 - 205) SS w/ Cable Curl EZBar (progressive load from 130-150) - each dropsetted in 30lb increments on last set; each to failure
Seated Preacher Curl @ 70 - 4x8
Overhead Rope Extensions @ 140 - 4x10

Had to stop before i hurt my shoulder too much to lift again on Sunday :/

icehog3 · 03-06-2015, 05:38 PM

A good day, Charlie!

Sancho · 03-08-2015, 01:04 PM

Nice work Tom and Charlie!

Today was
Chins and Dips (assisted) 3 to failure
Deadlifts 135,225,225,275,275 x5
Concept2 10km

Feeling a pretty good pump, this maybe the plamf

icehog3 · 03-09-2015, 01:17 PM

Sick here, missed yesterday and today, tomorrow is still up in the air but likely a no-go as well. Hit it hard for me, Brothers.

swingerofbirches · 03-09-2015, 06:35 PM

Dang, Tom, hope you feel better soon.

I'm coming off a weekend of bad eating so I managed 1.25hrs of cardio today ... had to break the 1000cal burned marker. I'm shooting to drop weight/fat for the next couple of weeks anyway as we have a little trip coming up at the end of March.

Tomorrow will be 5x5 and more cardio.

icehog3 · 03-09-2015, 11:18 PM

Good deal, Charlie.

I am sick as a MoFo and am gonna be out for at least tomorrow, and I am guessing longer. This sh!t got a hold of me this time.

swingerofbirches · 03-11-2015, 03:44 PM

Dang Tom, sorry to hear that you're not feeling well. Hopefully you'll be back in the saddle soon.

Yesterday was another 1000+ calorie burned cardio session.

Today was heavy chest/back finished up with a hypertrophic arm workout. Heading back later to do some cardio with the wife ... doubt it'll be the 1000 though. Need to peddle back a bit today so i can hit it hard tomorrow and friday.

icehog3 · 03-11-2015, 05:35 PM

Keep fighting the good fight, Charlie...hope to join you again before the week is out.

swingerofbirches · 03-11-2015, 07:39 PM

Hey Tom ... any opinions on good but cheap pre-workout?

I'm loving the cardio-cuts but it's expensive and my wife uses it daily for the thermogenic and cardio so i want to go to CC only on cardio-only days. I'm cycled down on carbs those days anyway so the fat burner is a nice little boost. But i'm trying to achieve my full 40/40/20 split on lifting days, so i'm taking in 40% carbs and would prefer to be taking the most effective and cost effective pre-workout that I can on those days.

So far i've tried Cardio Cuts, Ab Cuts, C4 & Neon Sport.

Anyones thoughts are appreciated.

icehog3 · 03-12-2015, 10:48 AM

None of the pre-workouts I have in my mix could really be considered inexpensive, Charlie. Right now I have original Jack3d, Pump Fuel, NO Explode, Hemo-rage and Prodigy in rotation. Unfortunately for me, it seems to be "yu get what you pay for".

swingerofbirches · 03-12-2015, 02:45 PM

No lift today ... another 1000cal cardio day.

I hear ya, Tom. I'm probably just going to hunt online until i find a sale or good deal on a pre-workout that I know works. Nobody wants to gamble on a tub of stuff that may turn out to be a big bust. :/

Adriftpanda · 03-13-2015, 01:39 PM

New to the board here, hi guys.

Charlie, I have a couple questions for you. Are you tracking how many calories you're consuming a day? And if you are, what is it?

As far as a pwo, I'm like Tom. I have a rotation of them I go through. ESP by Metabolic, Muscle Prime by Allmax, and AMP Matrix by Aesthetic Labs.

I don't know your tolerance for caffeine, stim, etc. but for price point, C4 is probably your best best. If there is a Costco near you, they sell 2 tubes for around $35-40, can't beat that.

If you can go without a pwo, more power to you, it's opening Pandora's box.

swingerofbirches · 03-13-2015, 03:31 PM

Hey Huy!

Yeah I track my food and try to stick to a 40/40/20 (carb/protein/fat) split on lifting days and a 30/50/20 split (or thereabouts) on cardio only days. I try to consume between 2000-2200cal/day. I shoot for 200g of protein per day considering that at absolute peak physical condition id prob be 205-215?

I'm a big guy (278 as of this morning), just for reference. I've lost a good bit of weight and put on a decent bit of muscle over the last year and a half.

Any and all advice is appreciated. Thx for the Costco tip!
I have a really high caffeine tolerance

lol
I'm honestly really new to supplements despite a bit of pre-workout dabbling. So I'm also open to hearing whatever anyone has to say on stims vs no-stims.

swingerofbirches · 03-13-2015, 03:34 PM

The funny thing is that from my belly up and my mid-thigh down I look like a completely different person than in my middle ... if I posted a pic of my belly and then one of just my chest and up you wouldn't think it was the same person. In fairness my mid section is way smaller than it used to be, it just still bares the evidence of my sinful past.

I only recently started taking my diet really seriously (a couple of weeks) and my body is always slow to respond so I'm sure that I'll start seeing mid-section results here in a few weeks to a month.

icehog3 · 03-13-2015, 05:13 PM

Slow, steady improvement, Charlie, sounds like you're on the right path.

GreekGodX · 03-13-2015, 07:29 PM

Here's the cheapest pre-workout I know of that works great.
http://truenutrition.com/p-995-buzz-...servings.aspx?

Adriftpanda · 03-14-2015, 02:20 AM

Made my weekly Costco trip. Saw the twin pack of C-4 for $39. Not sure if you have a Costco near you though.

swingerofbirches · 03-14-2015, 09:11 AM

Good call guys! I called my local GNC and they said that they'd price match the C4!

swingerofbirches · 03-15-2015, 02:46 PM

So a friend of ours went to the Arnold Classic in Columbus a couple weeks back and apparently she got me a TON of pre-workout sames. Got em when we hung out last night. SO AWESOME!!!

icehog3 · 03-15-2015, 03:01 PM

Let us know about any new good ones, Charlie.

03-06-2015, 04:54 PM	#1161
swingerofbirches Feeling at Home Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Charlie Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 714 Trading: (0)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 II Nice work, Tom! Today was 5x5 Squats (315) & Leg Press (720) Did some arm work today but stopped when my left shoulder (my typically good one) started hurting too much. 4 Sets : Close Grip Cable Pull Downs (progressive load 180 - 205) SS w/ Cable Curl EZBar (progressive load from 130-150) - each dropsetted in 30lb increments on last set; each to failure Seated Preacher Curl @ 70 - 4x8 Overhead Rope Extensions @ 140 - 4x10 Had to stop before i hurt my shoulder too much to lift again on Sunday :/

03-06-2015, 05:38 PM	#1162
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 70,558 Trading: (60)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 II A good day, Charlie! __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

03-08-2015, 01:04 PM	#1163
Sancho Puddle Jumper Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Chris Location: back near the woods Posts: 387 Trading: (7)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 II Nice work Tom and Charlie! Today was Chins and Dips (assisted) 3 to failure Deadlifts 135,225,225,275,275 x5 Concept2 10km Feeling a pretty good pump, this maybe the plamf

03-09-2015, 01:17 PM	#1164
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 70,558 Trading: (60)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 II Sick here, missed yesterday and today, tomorrow is still up in the air but likely a no-go as well. Hit it hard for me, Brothers. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

03-09-2015, 06:35 PM	#1165
swingerofbirches Feeling at Home Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Charlie Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 714 Trading: (0)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 II Dang, Tom, hope you feel better soon. I'm coming off a weekend of bad eating so I managed 1.25hrs of cardio today ... had to break the 1000cal burned marker. I'm shooting to drop weight/fat for the next couple of weeks anyway as we have a little trip coming up at the end of March. Tomorrow will be 5x5 and more cardio.

03-09-2015, 11:18 PM	#1166
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 70,558 Trading: (60)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 II Good deal, Charlie. I am sick as a MoFo and am gonna be out for at least tomorrow, and I am guessing longer. This sh!t got a hold of me this time. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

03-11-2015, 03:44 PM	#1167
swingerofbirches Feeling at Home Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Charlie Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 714 Trading: (0)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 II Dang Tom, sorry to hear that you're not feeling well. Hopefully you'll be back in the saddle soon. Yesterday was another 1000+ calorie burned cardio session. Today was heavy chest/back finished up with a hypertrophic arm workout. Heading back later to do some cardio with the wife ... doubt it'll be the 1000 though. Need to peddle back a bit today so i can hit it hard tomorrow and friday.

03-11-2015, 05:35 PM	#1168
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 70,558 Trading: (60)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 II Keep fighting the good fight, Charlie...hope to join you again before the week is out. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

03-11-2015, 07:39 PM	#1169
swingerofbirches Feeling at Home Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Charlie Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 714 Trading: (0)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 II Hey Tom ... any opinions on good but cheap pre-workout? I'm loving the cardio-cuts but it's expensive and my wife uses it daily for the thermogenic and cardio so i want to go to CC only on cardio-only days. I'm cycled down on carbs those days anyway so the fat burner is a nice little boost. But i'm trying to achieve my full 40/40/20 split on lifting days, so i'm taking in 40% carbs and would prefer to be taking the most effective and cost effective pre-workout that I can on those days. So far i've tried Cardio Cuts, Ab Cuts, C4 & Neon Sport. Anyones thoughts are appreciated.

03-12-2015, 10:48 AM	#1170
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 70,558 Trading: (60)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 II None of the pre-workouts I have in my mix could really be considered inexpensive, Charlie. Right now I have original Jack3d, Pump Fuel, NO Explode, Hemo-rage and Prodigy in rotation. Unfortunately for me, it seems to be "yu get what you pay for". __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

03-12-2015, 02:45 PM	#1171
swingerofbirches Feeling at Home Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Charlie Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 714 Trading: (0)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 II No lift today ... another 1000cal cardio day. I hear ya, Tom. I'm probably just going to hunt online until i find a sale or good deal on a pre-workout that I know works. Nobody wants to gamble on a tub of stuff that may turn out to be a big bust. :/

03-13-2015, 01:39 PM	#1172
Adriftpanda Peter's Daddy Join Date: May 2009 First Name: Huy Location: No one wants me Posts: 10,302 Trading: (74)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 II New to the board here, hi guys. Charlie, I have a couple questions for you. Are you tracking how many calories you're consuming a day? And if you are, what is it? As far as a pwo, I'm like Tom. I have a rotation of them I go through. ESP by Metabolic, Muscle Prime by Allmax, and AMP Matrix by Aesthetic Labs. I don't know your tolerance for caffeine, stim, etc. but for price point, C4 is probably your best best. If there is a Costco near you, they sell 2 tubes for around $35-40, can't beat that. If you can go without a pwo, more power to you, it's opening Pandora's box. __________________ Who eats plantains when they can eat placenta.

03-13-2015, 03:31 PM	#1173
swingerofbirches Feeling at Home Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Charlie Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 714 Trading: (0)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 II Hey Huy! Yeah I track my food and try to stick to a 40/40/20 (carb/protein/fat) split on lifting days and a 30/50/20 split (or thereabouts) on cardio only days. I try to consume between 2000-2200cal/day. I shoot for 200g of protein per day considering that at absolute peak physical condition id prob be 205-215? I'm a big guy (278 as of this morning), just for reference. I've lost a good bit of weight and put on a decent bit of muscle over the last year and a half. Any and all advice is appreciated. Thx for the Costco tip! I have a really high caffeine tolerance lol I'm honestly really new to supplements despite a bit of pre-workout dabbling. So I'm also open to hearing whatever anyone has to say on stims vs no-stims. Last edited by swingerofbirches; 03-13-2015 at 03:39 PM.

03-13-2015, 03:34 PM	#1174
swingerofbirches Feeling at Home Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Charlie Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 714 Trading: (0)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 II The funny thing is that from my belly up and my mid-thigh down I look like a completely different person than in my middle ... if I posted a pic of my belly and then one of just my chest and up you wouldn't think it was the same person. In fairness my mid section is way smaller than it used to be, it just still bares the evidence of my sinful past. I only recently started taking my diet really seriously (a couple of weeks) and my body is always slow to respond so I'm sure that I'll start seeing mid-section results here in a few weeks to a month.

03-13-2015, 05:13 PM	#1175
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 70,558 Trading: (60)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 II Slow, steady improvement, Charlie, sounds like you're on the right path. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

03-13-2015, 07:29 PM	#1176
GreekGodX Opa!! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Christos Location: 7 Line Posts: 4,893 Trading: (82)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 II Here's the cheapest pre-workout I know of that works great. http://truenutrition.com/p-995-buzz-...servings.aspx? __________________ "If I give a businessman 10,000 francs, what is that to him, he is rich. But if I give him a Cohiba cigar, that is style."-Hotel Rwanda

03-14-2015, 02:20 AM	#1177
Adriftpanda Peter's Daddy Join Date: May 2009 First Name: Huy Location: No one wants me Posts: 10,302 Trading: (74)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 II Made my weekly Costco trip. Saw the twin pack of C-4 for $39. Not sure if you have a Costco near you though. __________________ Who eats plantains when they can eat placenta.

03-14-2015, 09:11 AM	#1178
swingerofbirches Feeling at Home Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Charlie Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 714 Trading: (0)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 II Good call guys! I called my local GNC and they said that they'd price match the C4!

03-15-2015, 02:46 PM	#1179
swingerofbirches Feeling at Home Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Charlie Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 714 Trading: (0)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 II So a friend of ours went to the Arnold Classic in Columbus a couple weeks back and apparently she got me a TON of pre-workout sames. Got em when we hung out last night. SO AWESOME!!!

03-15-2015, 03:01 PM	#1180
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 70,558 Trading: (60)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 II Let us know about any new good ones, Charlie. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!