Proposed New TAX!!!

NCRadioMan · 01-22-2010, 03:07 PM

I was just alerted to this and it pisses me off!

H. R. 4439

To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to impose the same rate of tax on pipe tobacco as is imposed on roll-your-own tobacco.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

JANUARY 13, 2010

Mr. COHEN (for himself and Mr. DOGGETT) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Ways and Means

A BILL

To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to impose the same rate of tax on pipe tobacco as is imposed on roll-your-own tobacco.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the “Tobacco Tax Parity Act of 2010”.

SEC. 2. PIPE TOBACCO AND ROLL-YOUR-OWN TOBACCO RATE PARITY.

(a) In General.—Subsection (f) of section 5701 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by striking “$2.8311 cents” and inserting “$24.78”.

(b) Effective Date.—The amendments made by this section shall apply to articles removed (as defined in section 5702(j) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986) after the date of the enactment of this Act.

Call your local reps NOW!

DrDubzz · 01-22-2010, 03:22 PM

daayyyyummm

seriously uncool

McSmokey · 01-22-2010, 03:26 PM

Boo

Kreth · 01-22-2010, 03:47 PM

Let me guess: they figured out that a lot of RYO folks started using pipe tobacco to avoid the last round of unfair taxes...

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NCRadioMan · 01-22-2010, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kreth

Let me guess: they figured out that a lot of RYO folks started using pipe tobacco to avoid the last round of unfair taxes...

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Kind of. The RYO folks started to ribbon cut the baccy and market it as "pipe tobacco".

Subvet642 · 01-22-2010, 05:23 PM

You didn't think that they were going to stop at taxing cigarettes, did ya?

boom · 01-22-2010, 05:40 PM

Kreth · 01-22-2010, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subvet642

You didn't think that they were going to stop at taxing cigarettes, did ya?

Stop? Hell, here in NY they're proposing another buck a pack in taxes...
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01-22-2010, 05:46 PM

They never stop until there are no more of them.

01-22-2010, 05:54 PM

its for the children

smokehouse · 01-22-2010, 08:12 PM

It was only a matter of time. They have to pay for free health care some how

Subvet642 · 01-23-2010, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kreth

Stop? Hell, here in NY they're proposing another buck a pack in taxes...
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They SUCK!

Kreth · 01-23-2010, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subvet642

They SUCK!

Makes me glad I quit. Although, it's a case of stand together or hang separately. I'm sure next up will be a bill to "establish parity" between cigar tobacco and RYO and pipe tobacco.

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longknocker · 01-23-2010, 10:10 AM

Our "Freedoms" Are Diminishing Quickly, My Friends!

01-24-2010, 01:42 PM

We at PipesMagazine.com have been covering this story since it broke on Friday.

Bill Introduced to Further Raise Federal Taxes on Pipe Tobacco

As a service to the pipe smoking community and the industry of pipe makers and pipe tobacco producers we have set up a free service that will automatically send emails to your Senators and Congressmen.
We have already typed the letter for you. The system does everything. Just enter your address, we find the right contacts and send them your opposition to the tax increase.

Stop the Pipe Tobacco Tax

When you sign it, you will also have the option to have a physical letter hand delivered to them, as well as the free e-mail. The letter costs $3.00 per representative. I have 3 so called representatives so it cost me $9.00. That is only the cost of 1 tin of tobacco and is well worth it.

montecristo#2 · 01-24-2010, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

Kind of. The RYO folks started to ribbon cut the baccy and market it as "pipe tobacco".

Yeh, companies try to get around the taxes so everyone now gets screwed. Not saying I agree with the taxes, especially that large of an increase

. I also understand the view point of the companies, they are just trying to make money. No one wins in these situations except the people who want to ban tobacco.

When they made clove cigars illegal, what did they do? They made them twice the size, changed the paper and now they call them "small cigars". They are not small cigars, they are just larger cigarettes, give me a break.

Here in California, we get commercials for a tobacco free CA, I just wonder what our streets and schools would look like without the tobacco tax.

Pat1075 · 01-24-2010, 09:54 PM

this seriously pisses me off as a citizen and a pipe smoker I smoke actual pipe tobacco not that fake crap they just call pipe tobacco to get around the tax

Kreth · 01-24-2010, 10:08 PM

Recently I've been reading the posts by SilverFox and rhmalone, and watching the beginnings of their slide down another slope. It's been fascinating and informative and has gotten me interested in pipes. However, this thread has given me pause. I'm not sure I want to get into another hobby that our government seems bent on taxing out of existence.

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Pilon · 01-24-2010, 10:28 PM

Emails sent to congressmen, this is bullshit

TheRealBonger · 01-25-2010, 05:57 AM

Until non tobacco users realize that their hobby will be the next target for the looters to get money it will continue. All citizens need to band together to stop this *&$%. When will enough people wake up?

01-22-2010, 03:07 PM	#1
NCRadioMan Chutney Lovebusciut Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Chutney Location: On the shores of Loch Shiel Posts: 4,276 Trading: (66)	Proposed New TAX!!! I was just alerted to this and it pisses me off! H. R. 4439 To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to impose the same rate of tax on pipe tobacco as is imposed on roll-your-own tobacco. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES JANUARY 13, 2010 Mr. COHEN (for himself and Mr. DOGGETT) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Ways and Means A BILL To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to impose the same rate of tax on pipe tobacco as is imposed on roll-your-own tobacco. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. This Act may be cited as the “Tobacco Tax Parity Act of 2010”. SEC. 2. PIPE TOBACCO AND ROLL-YOUR-OWN TOBACCO RATE PARITY. (a) In General.—Subsection (f) of section 5701 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by striking “$2.8311 cents” and inserting “$24.78”. (b) Effective Date.—The amendments made by this section shall apply to articles removed (as defined in section 5702(j) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986) after the date of the enactment of this Act. Call your local reps NOW! __________________ The path to loyalty is trust.

01-22-2010, 03:26 PM	#3
McSmokey Feeling at Home Join Date: Aug 2009 First Name: Justin Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 948 Trading: (30)	Re: Proposed New TAX!!! Boo

01-22-2010, 03:47 PM	#4
Kreth Ronin smoker Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Oneonta, NY Posts: 3,620 Trading: (14)	Re: Proposed New TAX!!! Let me guess: they figured out that a lot of RYO folks started using pipe tobacco to avoid the last round of unfair taxes... Posted via Mobile Device

01-22-2010, 05:23 PM	#6
Subvet642 Bilge Rat Join Date: Nov 2009 First Name: Darren Location: Torpedo Room Bilge Posts: 2,997 Trading: (13)	Re: Proposed New TAX!!! You didn't think that they were going to stop at taxing cigarettes, did ya? __________________ *"Man's mind is his basic tool of survival. Life is given to him, survival is not." -John Galt*

01-22-2010, 05:40 PM	#7
boom Central Cali Cigar Crew Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Troy Location: Cen Cal Posts: 1,659 Trading: (107)	Re: Proposed New TAX!!!

01-22-2010, 03:22 PM	#2
DrDubzz Formerly RX2010 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Virginia Posts: 2,201 Trading: (34)	Re: Proposed New TAX!!! daayyyyummm seriously uncool

01-22-2010, 05:46 PM	#9
BC-Axeman Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Proposed New TAX!!! They never stop until there are no more of them.

01-22-2010, 05:54 PM	#10
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01-22-2010, 08:12 PM	#11
smokehouse Hiding from Curly Cut Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 83 Trading: (0)	Re: Proposed New TAX!!! It was only a matter of time. They have to pay for free health care some how __________________ A bad day hunting or fishing is better than a good day at work.

01-23-2010, 10:10 AM	#14
longknocker Postwhore Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: Mobile, Alabama Posts: 11,114 Trading: (82)	Re: Proposed New TAX!!! Our "Freedoms" Are Diminishing Quickly, My Friends!

01-24-2010, 01:42 PM	#15
Python Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Proposed New TAX!!! We at PipesMagazine.com have been covering this story since it broke on Friday. Bill Introduced to Further Raise Federal Taxes on Pipe Tobacco As a service to the pipe smoking community and the industry of pipe makers and pipe tobacco producers we have set up a free service that will automatically send emails to your Senators and Congressmen. We have already typed the letter for you. The system does everything. Just enter your address, we find the right contacts and send them your opposition to the tax increase. Stop the Pipe Tobacco Tax When you sign it, you will also have the option to have a physical letter hand delivered to them, as well as the free e-mail. The letter costs $3.00 per representative. I have 3 so called representatives so it cost me $9.00. That is only the cost of 1 tin of tobacco and is well worth it.

01-24-2010, 09:54 PM	#17
Pat1075 Feeling at Home Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Patrick Location: Lakewood, OH Posts: 755 Trading: (11)	Re: Proposed New TAX!!! this seriously pisses me off as a citizen and a pipe smoker I smoke actual pipe tobacco not that fake crap they just call pipe tobacco to get around the tax

01-24-2010, 10:08 PM	#18
Kreth Ronin smoker Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Oneonta, NY Posts: 3,620 Trading: (14)	Re: Proposed New TAX!!! Recently I've been reading the posts by SilverFox and rhmalone, and watching the beginnings of their slide down another slope. It's been fascinating and informative and has gotten me interested in pipes. However, this thread has given me pause. I'm not sure I want to get into another hobby that our government seems bent on taxing out of existence. Posted via Mobile Device

01-24-2010, 10:28 PM	#19
Pilon Feelin' the Love Join Date: Aug 2009 First Name: Travis Location: Tiverton, RI Posts: 888 Trading: (49)	Re: Proposed New TAX!!! Emails sent to congressmen, this is bullshit

01-25-2010, 05:57 AM	#20
TheRealBonger Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Eric Location: Back in the STL Posts: 67 Trading: (0)	Re: Proposed New TAX!!! Until non tobacco users realize that their hobby will be the next target for the looters to get money it will continue. All citizens need to band together to stop this *&$%. When will enough people wake up?