Scotch Q&A - Page 6

AD720 · 01-19-2009, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kayaker

Try the Bowmore 12 or 15. It has some of the characteristics of both the HP and Ardbeg, nicely balanced.

Glad you are enjoying.

The Bowmore 12 year is excellent.

I also really, really enjoy the Bowmore Legend, best under $30 a bottle single malt I've had so for.

Biglizard1 · 01-19-2009, 10:11 AM

The other day I randomly mentioned to my wife that I needed to buy some Scotch, the wonderful bride that she is went to the store the next day and found a bottle of McClellands Highland. My first bottle of Scotch. I think that she did a good job! I am resisting the urge to place anything in the glass with the Scotch. so far so good.

01-26-2009, 12:36 AM

I was at a Robbie Burn's day celebration this evening. After a sample of Scottish beer (McEwan's and Innis & Gunn), we had haggis supper and several drams.

Here's what I remember of the list:
Dalmore 12 (sprinkled over the haggis)
Glen Ord 12
Old Pultney 12
Bruichladdich XVII
Laphroaig 10
Aberlour A'bunadh
Bunnahabhain (1991, MacPhail's Collection)
Dailuaine 16

A good time was had by all.

Too bad it was too cold for a stogie...

RBOrrell · 01-26-2009, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kayaker

I was at a Robbie Burn's day celebration this evening. After a sample of Scottish beer (McEwan's and Innis & Gunn), we had haggis supper and several drams.

Here's what I remember of the list:
Dalmore 12 (sprinkled over the haggis)
Glen Ord 12
Old Pultney 12
Bruichladdich XVII
Laphroaig 10
Aberlour A'bunadh
Bunnahabhain (1991, MacPhail's Collection)
Dailuaine 16

A good time was had by all.

Too bad it was too cold for a stogie...

Great selection. I know this is a Scotch thread but what did you think of Innis and Gunn? I just love this stuff.

I did not get to a Robbie Burns supper because I had to curl last night. Had a McClellan (the only single malt the club has) afterwards in honour of the poet.

01-26-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RBOrrell

Great selection. I know this is a Scotch thread but what did you think of Innis and Gunn? I just love this stuff.

I&G is great. A friend introduced it to me last year. Have you had their limited releases of IPA or the one aged in rum barrels? The IPA was great and the rum aged was very different but also good.

RBOrrell · 01-26-2009, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kayaker

I&G is great. A friend introduced it to me last year. Have you had their limited releases of IPA or the one aged in rum barrels? The IPA was great and the rum aged was very different but also good.

I have only had the original oak aged. The rum aged has just been released by the LCBO - I have to get out to buy some. The IPA is not listed by the LCBO so I have not had it.

I have a neighbour who introduced me to I&G a couple of years ago. He won't drink any old beer and I&G is near the top of his list.

Sauer Grapes · 01-26-2009, 08:24 PM

Anyone here tried Edradour? Apparently it is available here in the states but who knows where?

Buddy of mine loves the stuff, but I forgot what the name was when I was in the UK. It is apparently the UK's smallest distillery.

TripleF · 01-28-2009, 05:58 AM

Recently I had the hankering for whisky....don't know why, I just did.

I bought my first ever bottle and it was Makers Mark. I was impressed. Started with the famous "oh this is gonna burn going down" and then it turned sweet and creamy. Had it with 3 cubes of ice.

I'll be back for another later this week.

JohnnyFlake · 01-29-2009, 03:22 PM

I have heard of it many times, and always good things, from what I recall. I know that it's not normally available in the USA. So, I was never able to try it. Anyway, I just won a Sealed Collectible Bottle on eBay, and I should have it within a week or so. Any information about it will be appreciated.

Sauer Grapes · 01-29-2009, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyFlake

I have heard of it many times, and always good things, from what I recall. I know that it's not normally available in the USA. So, I was never able to try it. Anyway, I just won a Sealed Collectible Bottle on eBay, and I should have it within a week or so. Any information about it will be appreciated.

Are you talking about Edradour? I know it's from Scotland's smallest distillery, supposedly VERY good.

JohnnyFlake · 01-30-2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes

Are you talking about Edradour? I know it's from Scotland's smallest distillery, supposedly VERY good.

I don't thing so! Here is a link to a picture of a bottle:

http://www.picable.com/Objects/Bottl...-Whisky.305621

Sauer Grapes · 01-30-2009, 03:34 PM

Oh, I see the title on your post now. I'm a numbnuts.

AD720 · 01-30-2009, 04:34 PM

So I swung by the wine and spirits store after work to grab a bottle. I've been blowing through my bottle of Bowmore Islay Reserve and ended up drinking mostly Chivas for the last week. I was all ready to grab another bottle of of the Reserve or splurge on a bottle of Glenfiddich and I saw some McCelland's. I know it is cheap-o but for $20 a bottle I figured it's gotta be better than Cutty Shark or Dewars. The only delemma was which one - Highland, Lowland or Islay.

Tough decision...

...so I got them all. For $20 a bottle I am not expecting the world. Hopefully at the least I will get a better idea of the difference between each style. So far the Highland is pretty good. Anyone have experence with this distellery?

JohnnyFlake · 01-30-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyFlake

I don't thing so! Here is a link to a picture of a bottle:

http://www.picable.com/Objects/Bottl...-Whisky.305621

I did a number of searches on the Grand Old Parr 12yo I mentioned above. I found two reviews by Michael Jackson, one on the 12yo and one on an 18yo. It is a blended scotch from Scotland. This is what he said about it:

Nose: Malty, Very scented, Cake-Like, Linseed.

Palate: Big, Notably firm-bodied. Malty, Cereal grains, Toasted sesame seeds, Demerara sugar and raisins, Honey, There even seems to be a hint of chili in there somewhere.

Finish: Soothing, Long, Developing slight lemon grass and a peatiness.

He scored it an 8.5 out of 10.0 and likes it better than the 18yo. BTW, this comes in one liter bottles!

I am very anxious about winning this. I hope all goes smoothly!

AD720 · 01-30-2009, 07:16 PM

Well I finished a dram of the McCelland's Highland earlier. (I like mine on the rocks).

Overall it was OK. It was a little sweet and almost syrupy for me. There was some interesting almost cirtusy sweetness to it that was pleasing but I think it was a little too sweet overall. I don't know if that is something that is indicative of Highland scotches.

(Kayaker, maybe you can chime in there)

I just got home from dinner and now I am having a bit of the Islay (same way, rocks). I am enjoying this one a little bit more. It opens up with a big mouthful of salt and finishes very smooth with the medical taste on the finish. It is not as complex as the Bowmore Islay though.

I'll try a bit of the Lowland tomorrow.

01-31-2009, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AD720

Overall it was OK. It was a little sweet and almost syrupy for me. There was some interesting almost cirtusy sweetness to it that was pleasing but I think it was a little too sweet overall. I don't know if that is something that is indicative of Highland scotches.

(Kayaker, maybe you can chime in there)

I was trying to find out more about the McClelland's line, but my source is out of the country right now. Basically each of these regional malts is a young version from a more popular distillery. For example, I do remember being told that the Islay one is a young Bowmore. The actual age I don't know, but it has to be at least 3 years and is likely younger than 10. But I can't remember what distilleries are used for the other regions.

With regards to highland malts, they tend to be rich and robust. I think about Highland Park and Glenfarclas. I guess they can be considered a little sweet too. However, each region has scotch that may not show itself as a typical example.

One thing I wonder about is whether or not spirit caramel was used in the one you are talking about. It's the only ingredient that is allowed to be added to scotch that is not a necessary part of the process. The caramel adds colour making whisky look richer, but it may also make it sweeter. All the natural colour in Scotch comes from the barrel during the aging process. Therefore a younger whisky would have even less colour naturally and might require more caramel to make it look richer.

I don't know if this is the case here. I will drop by a liquor store to take a look at the bottles myself, and I will see if I can track down my source for more info.

Hope this helps.

Jerry · 01-31-2009, 12:21 PM

I been reading this a bit an decided to give it a try.. NOt much of a drinker.. anymore.. Went out an got a bottle of Glenlivet 18.. not bad at all.. 75 bucks wasnt all that bad.. But where the hell do I go from here... Is there one with alittle more sweetness to it..

JohnnyFlake · 01-31-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry

I been reading this a bit an decided to give it a try.. NOt much of a drinker.. anymore.. Went out an got a bottle of Glenlivet 18.. not bad at all.. 75 bucks wasnt all that bad.. But where the hell do I go from here... Is there one with a little more sweetness to it..

For something with a very nicely balanced sweetness, on the palate and an intense long finish, try a bottle of Glenfarclas 15yo. It's a Speyside Single Malt, and it will cost you about $45. A wonderful scotch!

AD720 · 01-31-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kayaker

I was trying to find out more about the McClelland's line, but my source is out of the country right now. Basically each of these regional malts is a young version from a more popular distillery. For example, I do remember being told that the Islay one is a young Bowmore. The actual age I don't know, but it has to be at least 3 years and is likely younger than 10. But I can't remember what distilleries are used for the other regions.

That is interesting. Like I said I found the McClelland's Islay very similar to the Bowmore Islay, but without as much complexity so it being from the distellery but with less age that definitly adds up.

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Originally Posted by kayaker

With regards to highland malts, they tend to be rich and robust. I think about Highland Park and Glenfarclas. I guess they can be considered a little sweet too. However, each region has scotch that may not show itself as a typical example.

One thing I wonder about is whether or not spirit caramel was used in the one you are talking about. It's the only ingredient that is allowed to be added to scotch that is not a necessary part of the process. The caramel adds colour making whisky look richer, but it may also make it sweeter. All the natural colour in Scotch comes from the barrel during the aging process. Therefore a younger whisky would have even less colour naturally and might require more caramel to make it look richer.

I don't know if this is the case here. I will drop by a liquor store to take a look at the bottles myself, and I will see if I can track down my source for more info.

Hope this helps.

I guess the addition of caramel is not something that is easy to find out about. For what it's worth I just looked at all three bottles under a light and there are no difference of color that I can see with my eyes. So if they used that caramel to darken the Highland it didn't make a difference that I can see.

I am trying a dram of the Lowland now. Right off the bat there more of a discernable whiskey smell than the Highland or the Islay. There is almost no saltyness and the finish is sweet in the cirtrisy way that I enjoyed with the Highland and much less of the syrpy sweetness that I didn't like. This one is the spiciest of the three as well. I will reserve my final impression until I finish the glass but I would put this one 2nd behind the Islay with the Highland in thrid.

Big help as always thanks Kayaker.

yourchoice · 02-02-2009, 06:14 PM

I am rapidly continuing my decent down the Scotch slope. Yesterday, while buying beer for the Super Bowl party (small gathering really) I hosted, I couldn't help myself and perused the Scotch isle. Walking down that isle without buying something would be akin to going to a B&M and not buying a cigar. So, of course another bottle was added to my collection. I went with a bottle of Talisker. I haven't broken the seal yet, but its day is coming!

That brings my rapidly increasing Scotch collection to:

Glenfiddich 12
Ardbeg 10
Talisker 10
Highland Park 12
Bruichladdich "The Rocks"

Fun....except for my wallet!

01-19-2009, 10:11 AM	#102
Biglizard1 LLG turned CAI Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: David Location: Earth Posts: 226 Trading: (8)	Re: Scotch Q&A The other day I randomly mentioned to my wife that I needed to buy some Scotch, the wonderful bride that she is went to the store the next day and found a bottle of McClellands Highland. My first bottle of Scotch. I think that she did a good job! I am resisting the urge to place anything in the glass with the Scotch. so far so good.

01-26-2009, 12:36 AM	#103
kayaker Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Scotch Q&A I was at a Robbie Burn's day celebration this evening. After a sample of Scottish beer (McEwan's and Innis & Gunn), we had haggis supper and several drams. Here's what I remember of the list: Dalmore 12 (sprinkled over the haggis) Glen Ord 12 Old Pultney 12 Bruichladdich XVII Laphroaig 10 Aberlour A'bunadh Bunnahabhain (1991, MacPhail's Collection) Dailuaine 16 A good time was had by all. Too bad it was too cold for a stogie...

01-26-2009, 08:24 PM	#107
Sauer Grapes Snatchin' yo people up Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,235 Trading: (44)	Re: Scotch Q&A Anyone here tried Edradour? Apparently it is available here in the states but who knows where? Buddy of mine loves the stuff, but I forgot what the name was when I was in the UK. It is apparently the UK's smallest distillery.

01-28-2009, 05:58 AM	#108
TripleF 11/11/11 EPIC IV Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 5,626 Trading: (176)	Re: Scotch Q&A Recently I had the hankering for whisky....don't know why, I just did. I bought my first ever bottle and it was Makers Mark. I was impressed. Started with the famous "oh this is gonna burn going down" and then it turned sweet and creamy. Had it with 3 cubes of ice. I'll be back for another later this week. __________________ Cool Cigar Shirts, Stickers & More

01-29-2009, 03:22 PM	#109
JohnnyFlake Just an old Wiseguy! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: John Location: Henderson, Nevada Posts: 534 Trading: (18)	Is Anyone familiar Grand Old Parr Deluxe Scotch? I have heard of it many times, and always good things, from what I recall. I know that it's not normally available in the USA. So, I was never able to try it. Anyway, I just won a Sealed Collectible Bottle on eBay, and I should have it within a week or so. Any information about it will be appreciated. __________________ A real man only needs Seven things in his life, Cigars, Women, Guns, Whiskey, Beer, Beans & Bacon!

01-30-2009, 03:34 PM	#112
Sauer Grapes Snatchin' yo people up Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,235 Trading: (44)	Re: Scotch Q&A Oh, I see the title on your post now. I'm a numbnuts.

01-30-2009, 04:34 PM	#113
AD720 I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The City of BOTL-erly Love Posts: 2,684 Trading: (73)	Re: Scotch Q&A So I swung by the wine and spirits store after work to grab a bottle. I've been blowing through my bottle of Bowmore Islay Reserve and ended up drinking mostly Chivas for the last week. I was all ready to grab another bottle of of the Reserve or splurge on a bottle of Glenfiddich and I saw some McCelland's. I know it is cheap-o but for $20 a bottle I figured it's gotta be better than Cutty Shark or Dewars. The only delemma was which one - Highland, Lowland or Islay. Tough decision... ...so I got them all. For $20 a bottle I am not expecting the world. Hopefully at the least I will get a better idea of the difference between each style. So far the Highland is pretty good. Anyone have experence with this distellery? __________________

01-30-2009, 07:16 PM	#115
AD720 I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The City of BOTL-erly Love Posts: 2,684 Trading: (73)	Re: Scotch Q&A Well I finished a dram of the McCelland's Highland earlier. (I like mine on the rocks). Overall it was OK. It was a little sweet and almost syrupy for me. There was some interesting almost cirtusy sweetness to it that was pleasing but I think it was a little too sweet overall. I don't know if that is something that is indicative of Highland scotches. (Kayaker, maybe you can chime in there) I just got home from dinner and now I am having a bit of the Islay (same way, rocks). I am enjoying this one a little bit more. It opens up with a big mouthful of salt and finishes very smooth with the medical taste on the finish. It is not as complex as the Bowmore Islay though. I'll try a bit of the Lowland tomorrow. __________________

01-31-2009, 12:21 PM	#117
Jerry Just in from the Storm Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bama Posts: 17 Trading: (0)	Re: Scotch Q&A I been reading this a bit an decided to give it a try.. NOt much of a drinker.. anymore.. Went out an got a bottle of Glenlivet 18.. not bad at all.. 75 bucks wasnt all that bad.. But where the hell do I go from here... Is there one with alittle more sweetness to it..

02-02-2009, 06:14 PM	#120
yourchoice Down the stretch Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Joel Location: South Jersey Posts: 4,081 Trading: (36)	Re: Scotch Q&A I am rapidly continuing my decent down the Scotch slope. Yesterday, while buying beer for the Super Bowl party (small gathering really) I hosted, I couldn't help myself and perused the Scotch isle. Walking down that isle without buying something would be akin to going to a B&M and not buying a cigar. So, of course another bottle was added to my collection. I went with a bottle of Talisker. I haven't broken the seal yet, but its day is coming! That brings my rapidly increasing Scotch collection to: Glenfiddich 12 Ardbeg 10 Talisker 10 Highland Park 12 Bruichladdich "The Rocks" Fun....except for my wallet!