Is this Murray's?

GWN · 11-08-2008, 02:39 PM

The good news is today I found what I think is a small stash of pre-Orlik Dunhill tins and a local shop. The bad news is I live in Ontario and have to pay full retail, so I only grabbed one. It says its made in UK, has "with association with" on the rim and "e" symbol, So I'm assuming this is post-95 Murray made for European market. Can anyone confirm?
I was hoping for some London Mixture as mine has all but run out, but unfortunately they had none at all.

Bruce · 11-08-2008, 04:11 PM

I think you answered your own question. The Made in UK stamping is the proof.
Nice find......too bad it's so expensive now.
That being said, we all may say this is a great price 5 or 10 years down the road!

JohnnyFlake · 11-08-2008, 04:31 PM

Unfortunately, Murray and Orlic tins look exactly the same (top & bottom). Is there any label on the back?

The only way to tell in the USA is by the label on the back. The Murray Tins have a different import/distributor label than the Orlick tins.

GWN · 11-08-2008, 05:23 PM

Nothing at all on the back. I had an Orlik tin of London Mixture with a back sticker, but nothing on this one. I imagine the Canadian distributor would have different procedures than the U.S. one, but who knows.

11-08-2008, 08:11 PM

I was always told that the Murray's tins were painted (like the one in the pic) and the Orlic tins have a sticker on the lid that did not cover the edges like the painted tins.

physiognomy · 11-08-2008, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyFlake

Unfortunately, Murray and Orlic tins look exactly the same (top & bottom).

Not necessarily in my experience... Murray's tins will always have "Made in U.K." as Bruce stated above, but most Orlick tins will say "Manufactured in the EU". I understand there may have been some overlap, but it is a good indicator as well as the small rectangular Lane Ltd sticker on the bottom (in the US). I have also yet to see a Murray's tin that did not have the warning sticker placed perpendicular across the tin seal (as it is with the Canadian duty sticker in the pic above), where Orlick tins have it running parallel with the seal.

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GWN · 11-09-2008, 05:32 AM

Thanks for weighing in, guys. Had a bowl yesterday and it was really nice.

11-08-2008, 02:39 PM	#1
GWN Snow City Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jeff Location: Barrie, Ontario Posts: 898 Trading: (10)	Is this Murray's? The good news is today I found what I think is a small stash of pre-Orlik Dunhill tins and a local shop. The bad news is I live in Ontario and have to pay full retail, so I only grabbed one. It says its made in UK, has "with association with" on the rim and "e" symbol, So I'm assuming this is post-95 Murray made for European market. Can anyone confirm? I was hoping for some London Mixture as mine has all but run out, but unfortunately they had none at all.

11-08-2008, 04:11 PM	#2
Bruce Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 370 Trading: (2)	Re: Is this Murray's? I think you answered your own question. The Made in UK stamping is the proof. Nice find......too bad it's so expensive now. That being said, we all may say this is a great price 5 or 10 years down the road!

11-08-2008, 04:31 PM	#3
JohnnyFlake Just an old Wiseguy! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: John Location: Henderson, Nevada Posts: 534 Trading: (18)	Re: Is this Murray's? Unfortunately, Murray and Orlic tins look exactly the same (top & bottom). Is there any label on the back? The only way to tell in the USA is by the label on the back. The Murray Tins have a different import/distributor label than the Orlick tins. __________________ A real man only needs Seven things in his life, Cigars, Women, Guns, Whiskey, Beer, Beans & Bacon!

11-08-2008, 05:23 PM	#4
GWN Snow City Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jeff Location: Barrie, Ontario Posts: 898 Trading: (10)	Re: Is this Murray's? Nothing at all on the back. I had an Orlik tin of London Mixture with a back sticker, but nothing on this one. I imagine the Canadian distributor would have different procedures than the U.S. one, but who knows.

11-08-2008, 08:11 PM	#5
Python Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Is this Murray's? I was always told that the Murray's tins were painted (like the one in the pic) and the Orlic tins have a sticker on the lid that did not cover the edges like the painted tins.

11-09-2008, 05:32 AM	#7
GWN Snow City Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jeff Location: Barrie, Ontario Posts: 898 Trading: (10)	Re: Is this Murray's? Thanks for weighing in, guys. Had a bowl yesterday and it was really nice.