Great password - Page 2

markem · 03-12-2014, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 8zeros

It's just a joke.
Hey Mark, that formula doesn't seem to take into account that after each guess the pool of guesses gets smaller, thereby increasing your chance of a lucky guess each time. Not that it would matter on a 52 character password.

The algorithm is for the average time over a random collection of passwords. As stated before, it isn't a floor since 1 is the true minimum. It is also possible that it will take substantially more than the average since, well, it's an average and for it to be an average there has to be at least one data point above the average.

The value of (50**52) is the list of all passwords within that space (technically one could argue that it is 50**53 but that's not as important in this case). This value represents the 'closure' or fully enumerated list of possible combinations within the space from 1 character up to 50 character passwords including all possible combinations. Once again, the crypto math is a little bit more than this, but this approximation is close enough for hand grenades and atom bombs.

Chainsaw13 · 03-12-2014, 10:28 AM

My head hurts.

jledou · 03-12-2014, 10:42 AM

Wooo there a few of you fellars have let your inner nerd slip out ... you might want to put that back in before too many people see

Love the discussion ... now what if we involve a Cray or 2?

icehog3 · 03-12-2014, 01:38 PM

You had me at "algorithm".

czerbe · 03-12-2014, 01:46 PM

is this a cigar forum or an episode of the Big Bang Theory?

357 · 03-14-2014, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by czerbe

is this a cigar forum or an episode of the Big Bang Theory?

Bazinga!

Porch Dweller · 03-14-2014, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by czerbe

is this a cigar forum or an episode of the Big Bang Theory?

You're in my spot.

galaga · 03-15-2014, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Porch Dweller

You're in my wet spot.

The IT monkeys cream over a password joke!!!

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Originally Posted by icehog3

You had me at "algorithm".

so seldom do I agree with the "Gator Bait"!!!!!!!!!!!

Good luck in the Tournament Tommy, pulling for SDSU all the way!

Brlesq · 03-15-2014, 05:13 PM

I like it!

markem · 03-17-2014, 01:07 PM

One last note from me, this is a good article about passwords

http://boingboing.net/2014/02/25/cho...-password.html

03-12-2014, 10:28 AM	#22
Chainsaw13 Møøse bites can be nasty Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Bob Location: The Enchanted Mitten Posts: 7,036 Trading: (96)	Re: Great password My head hurts. __________________ My neighbor came by my house this morning at 2AM, pounding on the door. Good thing I was still up playing the drums.

03-12-2014, 10:42 AM	#23
jledou Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jay Location: Kansas Posts: 2,202 Trading: (27)	Re: Great password Wooo there a few of you fellars have let your inner nerd slip out ... you might want to put that back in before too many people see Love the discussion ... now what if we involve a Cray or 2?

03-12-2014, 01:38 PM	#24
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 70,536 Trading: (61)	Re: Great password You had me at "algorithm". __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

03-12-2014, 01:46 PM	#25
czerbe Just a Traveling Man Join Date: Apr 2012 First Name: Corey Location: Reading Pa Posts: 1,309 Trading: (2)	Re: Great password is this a cigar forum or an episode of the Big Bang Theory? __________________ Live fast, hard, everyday like its your last.

03-15-2014, 05:13 PM	#29
Brlesq Carpe cigar! Join Date: May 2012 First Name: Bruce Location: Upstate NY Posts: 1,015 Trading: (17)	Re: Great password I like it! __________________ Hey! How come "Habana" is written on here with a Sharpie ?!?

03-17-2014, 01:07 PM	#30
markem Bunion Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Second Star on the Right Posts: 22,507 Trading: (47)	Re: Great password One last note from me, this is a good article about passwords http://boingboing.net/2014/02/25/cho...-password.html __________________ I refuse to belong to any organization that would have me as a member. ~ Groucho Marx