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Old 10-13-2009, 08:23 AM   #1
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Did you all see this?

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/zachary-ch...ory?id=8812939

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Old 10-13-2009, 08:41 AM   #2
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You beat me to it.

What is this world coming to?
This kid is a boy scout. He is a good kid. He wears a freaking tie to go to school. Who the heck does that today?

He is suspended and will have to go to reform school for 45 days.
All due to a zero tolerance rule.
What did he take? A camping tool with a spoon, fork and cake like knife. He wanted to eat lunch with it.

Is it right? Should he be allowed to have it? Of course not. Should there be some form of punishment? Of course. However, where the hell has common sense gone? This is nuts. Ruin a good kid in reform school? Suspended from school for 5 days and then 45 days of reform school additionally?

This is not a Columbine type situation. This is outrageous!
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Old 10-13-2009, 08:44 AM   #3
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YEah that's eff'd up. I heard recently about a teenage girl who got the "ban on drugs" rules applied to her for taking her birth control pill at school.

It's sad that there has to be a need for such strict rules.

That being said, I don't think a parent shoudl be giving a kid a swiss army knife at 6 to take to school. I think I got my first knife at 9, a rather large lock blade buck knife, that I still have. I knew enough to not to take it to school though.
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YEah that's eff'd up. I heard recently about a teenage girl who got the "ban on drugs" rules applied to her for taking her birth control pill at school.

It's sad that there has to be a need for such strict rules.

That being said, I don't think a parent shoudl be giving a kid a swiss army knife at 6 to take to school. I think I got my first knife at 9, a rather large lock blade buck knife, that I still have. I knew enough to not to take it to school though.

Just a thought,,,,, most 6 year olds when I was a 6 year old carried knives. No problems.
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Old 10-13-2009, 08:58 AM   #5
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Even though I think the way this is being handled is assinine, the utensil does have a pretty good sized blade. Here is a picture of the actual utensil.

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That being said, I don't think a parent shoudl be giving a kid a swiss army knife at 6 to take to school.
He is a Boy Scout and that is how he got it.
Mother didn't know he took it to school.
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Default Re: 6-Year old suspended - camping utensil?

I think it's absolutely absurd that they're talking about reform school. I can see slapping the kid on the wrist for making a stupid mistake...but at that age it should come in the form of banning him from recess for a week. He's 6 for crying out loud! He's in first grade? Things have gone too far...and like most people have said, it's a damn shame.
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Even though I think the way this is being handled is assinine, the utensil does have a pretty good sized blade. Here is a picture of the actual utensil.

Agree.
This should not be allowed anywhere near a school.
Agree there should be some form of punishment.
However, 50 days away from school, with 45 in reform school, for a 6 yr old kid who is a good student and role model of a kid? Nope. Nuts!
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Agree.
This should not be allowed anywhere near a school.
Agree there should be some form of punishment.
However, 50 days away from school, with 45 in reform school, for a 6 yr old kid who is a good student and role model of a kid? Nope. Nuts!
I agree 100%. What a great way to go WAY THE F*#K overboard in their response!
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Just a thought,,,,, most 6 year olds when I was a 6 year old carried knives. No problems.
Where did you grow up? Compton?
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Default Re: 6-Year old suspended - camping utensil?

for the record, I'm not in favor of a delinquent or reform program... suspend the kid for a few days and call it a day. The suspension will make sure the parents pay attention to what their kids are taking to school.

I was a boy scout and carried knives often. But, I knew when it was appropriate and when it wasn't . I'm sure the school had plastic utinsels the kid could use.
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Default Re: 6-Year old suspended - camping utensil?

I was a cub/boy scout back in the day and had several knives, but, my parents and I knew better than to bring knives to school (regardless of whether they doubled as "camping utensils"). I think that the 45 day suspension is crazy long, but, I don't have a problem with rules being carried out equally across the board to all violators (regardless of whether they were a "good" student or a bad one). I think that the standard suspension term needs to be re-evaluated. For example, maybe the 1st violation = 5 day suspension, 2nd violation = 45 days, and 3rd = explusion.

Lastly, since the straight "A" kid wore suits and ties to school, maybe the knife was for protection???
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He is 6 years old and was inteding to use the tool as an eating utensil as it was intended. While I am not condoning this I will say that from what I read it does not appear that there was any intent to use it to do anything other than eat with it. Explan to him that he can't bring that to school to eat with and call it a day. And for those screaming about the zero tolerence just keep in mind that it is entirely possibly to kill or mame somone with a plastic fork, knife or spoon and the use of a metal blade isn't needed. The world we live in is a dangerous place but it is anything but black and white.
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these situations are getting out of hand, I was let go from a pharmacy job at target because I carry a leatherman for when i need to fix something on the go... I was packing a knife in the pharmacy is what I was told and fired on the spot.
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these situations are getting out of hand, I was let go from a pharmacy job at target because I carry a leatherman for when i need to fix something on the go... I was packing a knife in the pharmacy is what I was told and fired on the spot.
So you were fired for being in posession of something that you can actualy purchase in the store where you were working? Priceless.
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I went to private schools until high school, and overreaction was the norm. It's sad to see this in public schools.

I almost got expelled in 7th grade. A kid who was a little off his rocker in hind sight decided he was mad at me and started punching me in the head in class. I called for the teacher three times (I was never really a fighter) before this kid picked up a chair. At this point it was survival instinct and I fought back. NOW of course the teacher sees it and sends us both to the office. Since the teacher didn't see this guy swing at me, I got a one week suspension and an expulsion hearing. This kid got nothing.

It was only 3 days into my suspension when the kid brought a 9mm to class when they apologised and let me back in.
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So you were fired for being in posession of something that you can actualy purchase in the store where you were working? Priceless.
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So you were fired for being in posession of something that you can actualy purchase in the store where you were working? Priceless.
They sell shotguns and shells at WallyWorld, but I'm sure they wouldn't like their employees walking around the store with loaded shotguns.

I know it's not the same as a knife, but, I'm just saying...
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these situations are getting out of hand, I was let go from a pharmacy job at target because I carry a leatherman for when i need to fix something on the go... I was packing a knife in the pharmacy is what I was told and fired on the spot.
Should have told them you were going to use the knife to cut the pills in the event of an emergancy Just kidding, that sucks!
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They sell shotguns and shells at WallyWorld, but I'm sure they wouldn't like their employees walking around the store with loaded shotguns.

I know it's not the same as a knife, but, I'm just saying...
It would be ok if he was just using the shotgun as a box opener.
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