Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum  

Go Back   Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum > Non Cigar Specialty Forums > Misc > General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-18-2010, 01:09 PM   #1
alwayslit
Welcome to the madness
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
First Name: Jim
Location: DC/Tampa
Posts: 482
Trading: (14)
RA
alwayslit is on a distinguished road
Default Oil tar balls seen in Key West

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/...3_N1880093.htm.....can anyone here confirm this?
alwayslit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2010, 01:31 PM   #2
CigarNut
F*ck Cancer!
 
CigarNut's Avatar
16
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
First Name: Michael
Location: Clermont, Florida
Posts: 18,038
Trading: (111)
RA
CigarNut has disabled reputation
Default Re: Oil tar balls seen in Key West

What a drag...
__________________
Need Beads? Need Five Finger Bags?

2 of 3 Requirements for use of the CA Rolodex: 100 posts/ 60 day membership/ participation in trade (trader rating). New members can be added at any time.
CigarNut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2010, 01:34 PM   #3
MortonMilo
Blowing smoke
 
MortonMilo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
First Name: R
Posts: 215
Trading: (10)
MortonMilo has disabled reputation
Default Re: Oil tar balls seen in Key West

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/18/gul...lls/index.html

CNN saying unlikely from spill...
MortonMilo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2010, 01:47 PM   #4
shilala
Dear Lord, Thank You.
 
shilala's Avatar
6
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Scott
Posts: 13,721
Trading: (252)
Cuaba
shilala has a reputation beyond reputeshilala has a reputation beyond reputeshilala has a reputation beyond reputeshilala has a reputation beyond reputeshilala has a reputation beyond reputeshilala has a reputation beyond reputeshilala has a reputation beyond reputeshilala has a reputation beyond reputeshilala has a reputation beyond reputeshilala has a reputation beyond reputeshilala has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Oil tar balls seen in Key West

No sense in worrying. Rush Limbaugh says everything will be okay.
"the ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and was left out there," Limbaugh said. "It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is."
Thank the good Lord for Rush. He's truly a Godsend.
__________________
shilala is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2010, 01:49 PM   #5
Emjaysmash
The Hebrew Hammer
 
Emjaysmash's Avatar
1
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: M.J.
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 7,025
Trading: (76)
Emjaysmash is a splendid one to beholdEmjaysmash is a splendid one to beholdEmjaysmash is a splendid one to beholdEmjaysmash is a splendid one to beholdEmjaysmash is a splendid one to beholdEmjaysmash is a splendid one to behold
Default Re: Oil tar balls seen in Key West

Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala View Post
No sense in worrying. Rush Limbaugh says everything will be okay.
"the ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and was left out there," Limbaugh said. "It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is."
Thank the good Lord for Rush. He's truly a Godsend.
__________________
Emjaysmash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2010, 01:55 PM   #6
mithrilG60
Feeling at Home
 
mithrilG60's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
First Name: Geoff
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 733
Trading: (2)
Cuaba
mithrilG60 will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Oil tar balls seen in Key West

Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala View Post
No sense in worrying. Rush Limbaugh says everything will be okay.
"the ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and was left out there," Limbaugh said. "It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is."
Thank the good Lord for Rush. He's truly a Godsend.


The thing that's really scary is the number of people that take commentator and pundit opinions as gospel simply because they're on the CNN/Fox/<insert media outlet here>.
mithrilG60 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2010, 02:02 PM   #7
Cigary
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Oil tar balls seen in Key West

Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala View Post
No sense in worrying. Rush Limbaugh says everything will be okay.
"the ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and was left out there," Limbaugh said. "It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is."
Thank the good Lord for Rush. He's truly a Godsend.
Ha ha ha...this truly sucks cuz I was wanting to plan a trip down there as I have some travel points with Starwood and was going to spend a week down there...guess not. May have to keep an eye out esp. since I like to cruise down there and I think it's not a good idea to take any cruise in the western Carribean for the next few months.
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2010, 02:16 PM   #8
kaisersozei
The Homebrew Hammer
 
kaisersozei's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Gerard
Location: Midlothian, VA
Posts: 3,183
Trading: (40)
Punch Army (Served With Honor)
kaisersozei is a name known to allkaisersozei is a name known to allkaisersozei is a name known to allkaisersozei is a name known to allkaisersozei is a name known to allkaisersozei is a name known to all
Default Re: Oil tar balls seen in Key West

If the oil coalesces into tar balls, wouldn't that make it easier to just scoop all up?
__________________

kaisersozei is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2010, 02:32 PM   #9
wayner123
Country Gentleman
 
wayner123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Deltona, FL
Posts: 2,351
Trading: (159)
Trinidad
wayner123 has disabled reputation
Default Re: Oil tar balls seen in Key West

I heard this morning that they have been sent to the lab for testing to see where they came from.

Also, they said that sometimes tar balls wash up on shore around areas where a lot of shipping goes on. Which the Keys are prime territory. Also, they were Atlantic side, which is kind of scary.
__________________
'It is an honor for a man to keep aloof from strife; But every fool will be quarrelling.'
wayner123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2010, 05:11 PM   #10
thebayratt
Still Watching My Ash
 
thebayratt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
First Name: Shawn
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 1,326
Trading: (11)
RA
thebayratt will become famous soon enoughthebayratt will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Oil tar balls seen in Key West

I live on the MS gulf coast. They said we would have oil on our beaches 36 hours after the rig crashed and oil started leaking..... a week later they said the oil would be at our barrier islands........... Here it is 3 weeks or more and we haven't seen anything.

Here is another food for thought.... There is oil that naturally comes up from the ocean floor everyday..... Maybe this is where the Keys' oil came from. That or some Cuban immagrants with a '76 Chevy Pickup floating on barrels sprung a leak on thier way to freedom~

Quote:
Originally Posted by kaisersozei View Post
If the oil coalesces into tar balls, wouldn't that make it easier to just scoop all up?
Yes, it will eventually harden into what called "coke" if left alone, if im not mistaken. The sun will harden it. They (BP, scientists, etc..) said, if it mainly just sits in the ocean floating around, it will eventually either harden (making it easy to pickup) or harden and sink to the ocean floor. This oil is nothing like the thick goo that the Valdez tragedy had. This oil is a whole different make up and not as thick.

My Dad worked at Chevron Oil Refinery in my hometown for 30yrs. Coke is a byproduct of gasoline production that can be burned to be used in power plants; but the US government made it illegal to do in the USA years back, so we sell to third world countries and they use it in their powerplants. Coke looks like charcoal crushed up into a power like substance.

My
thebayratt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2010, 07:33 PM   #11
chachee52
Adjusting to the Life
 
chachee52's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
First Name: Todd
Location: Tyngsboro, MA
Posts: 399
Trading: (2)
chachee52 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Oil tar balls seen in Key West

Heading to Key Largo and Key West in Aug to get married. Fiance is actually a little freaked out about this, either way, she is getting thrown into the water after we say "I Do".
But seriously, after the huge lose to the manatees and other native fish down there, I truely hope that this doesn't get too much damage in the Keys.
__________________
chachee52 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2010, 08:52 PM   #12
catfish2
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Oil tar balls seen in Key West

Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala View Post
No sense in worrying. Rush Limbaugh says everything will be okay.
"the ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and was left out there," Limbaugh said. "It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is."
Thank the good Lord for Rush. He's truly a Godsend.

Isn't funny how a failed sports announcer who thinks that he knows everything shows that he actually knows nothing when he opens his mouth.
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2010, 08:59 PM   #13
catfish2
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Oil tar balls seen in Key West

I have a friend in Florida, and family in Alabama. According to them a majority of people are scared and mad at the inability to stop the leak, and how this might affect their lives and livelihoods. I'm worried about how bad this is going to get before it's stopped.
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2010, 07:36 AM   #14
macpappy
Rider on the storm.
 
macpappy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Slidell, LA
Posts: 851
Trading: (0)
Cohiba CoastGuard (Retired)
macpappy will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Oil tar balls seen in Key West

Obviously I'm a retired Coastie. I worked quite a few oil spills from various sources during my 21 years of active duty, include the Ixtoc Pemex rig blowout in 1980. There is a 99 percent chance that the tar balls in the Florida keys have absolutely nothing to do with this rig accident and spill. If you have a beach, you have tar balls washing ashore. As previously stated, oil seepage on the ocean floor does occur naturally.

Here's one thing I've learned. The damage from a major oil spill is always a lot less severe than what the news media and environmentalist/anti-oil/anti-drilling fanatics want you to believe. History has proven this time and again. Think about all the oil spilled during World War II because of U-boat activities. Read up on the Torrey Canyon spill off of England and the recovery of the affected coast line. Even the damage from the Exxon Valdez while extremely bad in the short term was not as bad in the long term as expected.

The media reports the way it does for one reason. They make more money. The anti's latch onto anything like this for one reason - to further their cause.
__________________
WARNING: I am a Southern White Male. I have a brain and I know how to use it.
macpappy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2010, 07:40 AM   #15
replicant_argent
Gravy Boat Winnah.
 
replicant_argent's Avatar
6
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Pete
Location: my attorney has advised against giving this information to insane people
Posts: 5,326
Trading: (22)
LGC
replicant_argent is a name known to allreplicant_argent is a name known to allreplicant_argent is a name known to allreplicant_argent is a name known to allreplicant_argent is a name known to allreplicant_argent is a name known to all
Default Re: Oil tar balls seen in Key West

the news reported this morning that it appears it is not the same oil.
__________________
www.stogietorch.com
Some days call for a stiff Pomade.
replicant_argent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2010, 07:51 AM   #16
Wanger
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Oil tar balls seen in Key West

Quote:
Originally Posted by macpappy View Post

Here's one thing I've learned. The damage from a major oil spill is always a lot less severe than what the news media and environmentalist/anti-oil/anti-drilling fanatics want you to believe. History has proven this time and again. Think about all the oil spilled during World War II because of U-boat activities. Read up on the Torrey Canyon spill off of England and the recovery of the affected coast line. Even the damage from the Exxon Valdez while extremely bad in the short term was not as bad in the long term as expected.

The media reports the way it does for one reason. They make more money. The anti's latch onto anything like this for one reason - to further their cause.
I agree completely that the media blows it completely out of proportion, but the one major difference from the Valdez to this one is the waters they are in. I know that Alaska waters are very diverse, but I don't believe that there were reefs up there like there are in the Gulf that could be affected by this spill. Obviously the currents and containment measures affect things as well. Haven't read up a lot on either one lately, though.

I hope that they get this thing capped off soon, and that the damage is not as bad as potentially expected. Prepare for the worst, and hope for the best.
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2010, 09:50 AM   #17
macpappy
Rider on the storm.
 
macpappy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Slidell, LA
Posts: 851
Trading: (0)
Cohiba CoastGuard (Retired)
macpappy will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Oil tar balls seen in Key West

Actually, the Exxon Valdez was worse from the standpoint that it didn't happen in open waters. This meant it hit land faster and affected the birds and wildlife more because it was more contained.

The government should have insisted that BP concentrate on shutting off the well instead of giving them a month to try and figure a way to capture the oil. Unfortunately that's where politics come into play.
__________________
WARNING: I am a Southern White Male. I have a brain and I know how to use it.
macpappy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2010, 10:51 AM   #18
Thrak
.. the man from Nantucket
 
Thrak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Canton, GA
Posts: 558
Trading: (2)
HUpmann
Thrak is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Oil tar balls seen in Key West

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN...pe=marketsNews

Its confirmed that its not from the gulf oil leak..
Thrak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2010, 12:13 PM   #19
wayner123
Country Gentleman
 
wayner123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Deltona, FL
Posts: 2,351
Trading: (159)
Trinidad
wayner123 has disabled reputation
Default Re: Oil tar balls seen in Key West

Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala View Post
No sense in worrying. Rush Limbaugh says everything will be okay.
"the ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and was left out there," Limbaugh said. "It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is."
Thank the good Lord for Rush. He's truly a Godsend.
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/bp-oil-spil...1254252&page=2
__________________
'It is an honor for a man to keep aloof from strife; But every fool will be quarrelling.'
wayner123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2010, 01:58 PM   #20
jmsremax
Yet another Masshole
 
jmsremax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
First Name: Jon
Location: MA
Posts: 1,245
Trading: (19)
jmsremax will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Oil tar balls seen in Key West

Oh man that sucks....my family has a house in Naples.
__________________
Stock/Finance banter
jmsremax is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:47 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
All content is copyrighted jointly by Cigar Asylum and the content provider.