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Old 08-26-2009, 12:38 PM   #1
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Default List The Current Classics B4 It's Too Late!

So, if you are a Pepsi guy there is no way you'll ever call Coke a suitable repli-cola. I am a Coke guy and, if it isn't around, I'd rather drink root beer, water, unsweetened tea or orange juice than Pepsi.

Same for me with the vanished tobaccos. It's hard to get a taste of the old Balkan Sobranie or Momoyama, like it, and know you can't go back. Better to move on rather than getting invested in hunting replica smoke. No Coke? I think I'll try Iron Beer instead.

There are some stunning current classics that could vanish tomorrow. Lets get todays greats while we can! Lay your faves into the categories below then we'll line them up in another thread for a vote on the best of breed.

Whatever you list should be commercially available in North America and/or UK/Europe. Please list by a) maker; and b) blend. Don't include sold-but-not-made ebay stuff (Balkan Sobranie, Momoyama, Momoyama II, etc.) and no LEGITIMATELY discontinued blends or brands. Now, just because some lying dipstick with an ebay account and a cellar full of Royal Yacht calls Dunhill products "discontinued" don't make it so.

We can split hairs later about if this-or-that is actually oriental or english or burley dominant (let alone "what is an Aromatic and what isn't?") but, for now, I'd say www.tobaccoreviews.com or your informed guess is the guide.



VA dominant:
1. AC Peterson Escudo
2.
3.


Latakia/english:
1. Esoterica Penzance
2.
3.


Latakia/Oriental dominant:
1. Rattrays Red Rapparee
2.
3.

Burley dominant:
1. C&D Old Joe Krantz
2.
3.

Aromatic/heavily flavored, topped or cased:
1. MacBaren Plumcake
2.
3.
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Old 08-26-2009, 12:56 PM   #2
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Great idea Moo... May help us newbs have a good reference too.

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Old 08-26-2009, 01:01 PM   #3
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Great idea! When I get home tonight I'll dig through my tasting notes and see what I can find.
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Old 08-26-2009, 01:17 PM   #4
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...May help us newbs have a good reference too.

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This was, in large part, my thinking. I hope there's enough participation to make future voting worthwhile.
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Old 08-26-2009, 01:34 PM   #5
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No VA/Vaper distinction, Moo?
Here goes my contribution:

VA dominant:
1. AC Peterson Escudo
2. Samuel Gawith Best Brown Flake
3.


Latakia/english:
1. Esoterica Penzance
2. Rattrays Black Mallory
3.


Latakia/Oriental dominant:
1. Rattrays Red Rapparee
2. Erinmore Balkan Mixture
3.

Burley dominant:
1. C&D Old Joe Krantz
2.
3.

Aromatic/heavily flavored, topped or cased:
1. MacBaren Plumcake
2. Imperial Tobacco Group St. Bruno (lightly topped virginia)
3.


I know most of you guys never tried Erinmore Balkan Mixture, but it really is delicious. It's hard to classify, though, as it is equally rich in latakia as in orientals... very smoky and spicy.
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VA dominant:
1. AC Peterson Escudo
2. Samuel Gawith Best Brown Flake
3.


Latakia/english:
1. Esoterica Penzance
2. Rattrays Black Mallory
3.


Latakia/Oriental dominant:
1. Rattrays Red Rapparee
2. Erinmore Balkan Mixture
3.

Burley dominant:
1. C&D Old Joe Krantz
2.
3.

Aromatic/heavily flavored, topped or cased:
1. MacBaren Plumcake
2. Imperial Tobacco Group St. Bruno (lightly topped virginia)
3. Samuel Gawith Navy Flake
4.

I added Sam Gawith Navy Flake to the list. It's a VA/Lat blend with a light topping. Mmmmmmm good! It's a classic in my book.
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SG FVF needs to be added to the top list.
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VA dominant:
1. AC Peterson Escudo
2. Samuel Gawith Best Brown Flake
3. Mccrannie's Red Ribbon


Latakia/english:
1. Esoterica Penzance
2. Rattrays Black Mallory
3.


Latakia/Oriental dominant:
1. Rattrays Red Rapparee
2. Erinmore Balkan Mixture
3.

Burley dominant:
1. C&D Old Joe Krantz
2.
3.

Aromatic/heavily flavored, topped or cased:
1. MacBaren Plumcake
2. Imperial Tobacco Group St. Bruno (lightly topped virginia)
3. Samuel Gawith Navy Flake
4.

Did Dunhill actually discontinue their production?
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Old 08-26-2009, 02:32 PM   #9
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Dunhill blends are still produced and sold in most european countries..
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Old 08-26-2009, 02:39 PM   #10
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No VA/Vaper distinction, Moo?

It's hard to classify, though, as it is equally rich in latakia as in orientals...
I figured we could sweat the VA, VAPer, VABur and Oriental vs English details after all the names were in.

Shoot - there oughta be a "Lakeland" category, speaking of sweating the details later. I mean, is 1792 "Aromatic" or "Lakeland?"


VA dominant:
1. AC Peterson Escudo
2. Samuel Gawith Best Brown Flake
3. Mccrannie's Red Ribbon
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.


Latakia/english:
1. Esoterica Penzance
2. Rattrays Black Mallory
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.


Latakia/Oriental dominant:
1. Rattrays Red Rapparee
2. Erinmore Balkan Mixture
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

Burley dominant:
1. C&D Old Joe Krantz
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.


Aromatic/heavily flavored, topped or cased:
1. MacBaren Plumcake
2. Imperial Tobacco Group St. Bruno (lightly topped virginia)
3. Samuel Gawith Navy Flake
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.


Lakleland and other things you don't think fit above:
1. Samuel Gawith 1792
2.
3.
4.
5.
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Old 08-26-2009, 02:52 PM   #11
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VA dominant:
1. AC Peterson Escudo
2. Samuel Gawith Best Brown Flake
3. Mccrannie's Red Ribbon
4. Fribourg & Treyer Cut VA Plug


Latakia/english:
1. Esoterica Penzance
2. Rattrays Black Mallory
3.


Latakia/Oriental dominant:
1. Rattrays Red Rapparee
2. Erinmore Balkan Mixture
3.

Burley dominant:
1. C&D Old Joe Krantz
2. Esoterica StonebygodHaven
3.

Aromatic/heavily flavored, topped or cased:
1. MacBaren Plumcake
2. Imperial Tobacco Group St. Bruno (lightly topped virginia)
3. Samuel Gawith Navy Flake
4. Seattle Pipe Club Plum Pudding

Lakleland and other things you don't think fit above:
1. Samuel Gawith 1792
2. Gawith, Hoggarth Bob's Chocolate Flake
3.
4.
5.

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