Tar. Why does it vary so much from stick to stick?

Thrak · 03-10-2013, 04:08 PM

I had a DPG Blue today. I've had many of these before. This one however had SOO MUCH TAR coming out that I had to stop and get a paper towel to wipe it out. I used a punch, like I usually do, and cant remember any other cigar being this bad. It was kinda gross!! lol... I'm just glad it never hit my tongue!

BUT, why do some cigars have a lot of tar seep out, and some seemingly have none? Especially in the same line, I find this odd...

After a wipe and purge it was back to being tasty though.

Sadden · 03-10-2013, 09:28 PM

Recently had this happen. Buddy and i were sitting and having a RYJ habana reserve. Both were smoking sticks that were side by side in the box. His tarred off and got chucked. Mine was fine.

RevSmoke · 03-11-2013, 12:16 AM

I must admit, in 33+ years, I have never had this happen to a stick. I have seen pictures of it though.

mahtofire14 · 03-11-2013, 01:39 AM

I have noticed this on occasion but for me it's purely random. However I have had it happen more when using a punch cutter. My reasoning for this is that only the middle of the cap gets punched out leaving a curved edge which the smoke bunches up on and produces more tar. Not sure if this is a correct theory but it seems possible. Also I have noticed that if you get a lot of saliva on the cigar it tends to get tarry. These are just my experiences and I would assume there are more scientific answers out there.

Zane · 03-11-2013, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RevSmoke

I must admit, in 33+ years, I have never had this happen to a stick. I have seen pictures of it though.

Haven't been smoking nearly as long but I to have yet to experience it.

kelmac07 · 03-11-2013, 04:50 AM

I've only ever had this happen when I punch a stick. Hence the reason I use my Palio or X8 now.

dave · 03-11-2013, 07:28 AM

You can increase your odds of experiencing the tarring by:

Smoking faster (hotter)
Punching
Smoking smaller RG's

I used to toss a stick that started tarring. But, I've experienced it a number of times and now, if my mouth isn't totally fouled and ruined for next hour or more, I simply cut an additional 1/8"-3/16" and continue. Never had one tar up a second time and the tar seems to develop only right at the very end of the head.

CigarNut · 03-11-2013, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07

I've only ever had this happen when I punch a stick. Hence the reason I use my Palio or X8 now.

Same for me.

Big Maduro · 03-11-2013, 10:40 AM

Interesting, I've had this happen from time to time where I've had to recut the cigar.

stearns · 03-11-2013, 11:04 AM

this happens to me every now and again, can't seem to determine one sole cause of it. I always chalk it up to being a hand made product and reclip. it can definitely ruin a good smoke, especially if you start getting it on your lips/tongue

jjirons69 · 03-11-2013, 12:14 PM

Twice this week, once with an NC and once with a CC. Plus I've had it happen multiple times over the past years. This weekend I had a big tar experience with an 09 HdM Gourmet. It was clipped, not punched. The tar-soaked end was clipped off and everything ended up well. There was enough tar oozing out the end that a paper towel wouldn't clear it up. The end was truly soaked.

I usually know it's happening when I get a distinctive bitter flavor on my lips and usually past the half way point. I don't smoke fast at all and I don't chew or over-wet the end of my cigars. I've had it happen on my favorite sticks (MdO No.3) a couple of times, with a random stick out of a box where none of the others have any tar build up. I attribute it to the leaf used to roll said cigar. It seems to be more random than anything else. I've also had it happen to punched and clipped sticks. Never have used a V cut.

It is mess and will clog your smoke.

AdamJoshua · 03-11-2013, 09:30 PM

Never had this happen, when people say it happens are you talking about stronger more full bodied smokes? I tend to go with mild/medium CCs and haven't even been close to this happening, maybe I need to smoke more

CJS · 03-12-2013, 05:02 PM

Happened to me last weekend. I bought a box of 10 of Monte#2 dated May-12, rested them for about a month in my desktop humidor that maintains 65-68 RH.

A buddy of mine dropped by and we both smoked one of those. He cut about 1/4in of the cap; while I cut mine 3/8in.
He smoked faster than I did...and yet I was the one ended with tar oozing out about halfway down. That was the first time it ever happened to me. I clipped another 1/8in off but after several puffs, tar started to oozes out again that I had to put it down.

dwoodward · 03-12-2013, 05:13 PM

Never had this happen to me. Sounds disgusting lol.

03-10-2013, 04:08 PM	#1
Thrak .. the man from Nantucket Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canton, GA Posts: 558 Trading: (2)	Tar. Why does it vary so much from stick to stick? I had a DPG Blue today. I've had many of these before. This one however had SOO MUCH TAR coming out that I had to stop and get a paper towel to wipe it out. I used a punch, like I usually do, and cant remember any other cigar being this bad. It was kinda gross!! lol... I'm just glad it never hit my tongue! BUT, why do some cigars have a lot of tar seep out, and some seemingly have none? Especially in the same line, I find this odd... After a wipe and purge it was back to being tasty though. __________________ "Push the envelope, watch it bend." - MJK

03-11-2013, 12:16 AM	#3
RevSmoke Ain't Never Gonna Leave Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Todd Location: Northcentral woods of Wisconsin Posts: 6,807 Trading: (51)	Re: Tar. Why does it vary so much from stick to stick? I must admit, in 33+ years, I have never had this happen to a stick. I have seen pictures of it though. __________________ Todd__ "Smoke what you like, and enjoy it!"

03-11-2013, 01:39 AM	#4
mahtofire14 Chillin in the Aging Room Join Date: Oct 2012 First Name: Pete Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 1,588 Trading: (16)	Re: Tar. Why does it vary so much from stick to stick? I have noticed this on occasion but for me it's purely random. However I have had it happen more when using a punch cutter. My reasoning for this is that only the middle of the cap gets punched out leaving a curved edge which the smoke bunches up on and produces more tar. Not sure if this is a correct theory but it seems possible. Also I have noticed that if you get a lot of saliva on the cigar it tends to get tarry. These are just my experiences and I would assume there are more scientific answers out there. __________________ Saving basements in the Land of 10,000 Lakes.

03-11-2013, 04:50 AM	#6
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: Tar. Why does it vary so much from stick to stick? I've only ever had this happen when I punch a stick. Hence the reason I use my Palio or X8 now. __________________ Dom in the MLB thread "I could probably get you to wear a Yankee hat for a Maduro!"

03-11-2013, 07:28 AM	#7
dave Have My Own Room Join Date: May 2011 First Name: Dave Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,180 Trading: (15)	Re: Tar. Why does it vary so much from stick to stick? You can increase your odds of experiencing the tarring by: Smoking faster (hotter) Punching Smoking smaller RG's I used to toss a stick that started tarring. But, I've experienced it a number of times and now, if my mouth isn't totally fouled and ruined for next hour or more, I simply cut an additional 1/8"-3/16" and continue. Never had one tar up a second time and the tar seems to develop only right at the very end of the head.

03-10-2013, 09:28 PM	#2
Sadden Its only money... Join Date: May 2012 First Name: Colin Posts: 367 Trading: (0)	Re: Tar. Why does it vary so much from stick to stick? Recently had this happen. Buddy and i were sitting and having a RYJ habana reserve. Both were smoking sticks that were side by side in the box. His tarred off and got chucked. Mine was fine. __________________ If you want to party with the boys , be prepared to get up and work with the men the next morning. -Colin

03-11-2013, 10:40 AM	#9
Big Maduro Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Dec 2011 First Name: Mike Location: Ohio Posts: 479 Trading: (14)	Re: Tar. Why does it vary so much from stick to stick? Interesting, I've had this happen from time to time where I've had to recut the cigar.

03-11-2013, 11:04 AM	#10
stearns Dogbert Consultant Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ben Location: Park Hill Posts: 5,347 Trading: (50)	Re: Tar. Why does it vary so much from stick to stick? this happens to me every now and again, can't seem to determine one sole cause of it. I always chalk it up to being a hand made product and reclip. it can definitely ruin a good smoke, especially if you start getting it on your lips/tongue __________________ "Ignoring all the racket of conventional reality" - Keller Williams

03-11-2013, 12:14 PM	#11
jjirons69 Haberdasher Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jamie Location: Chucktown, SC Posts: 4,120 Trading: (94)	Re: Tar. Why does it vary so much from stick to stick? Twice this week, once with an NC and once with a CC. Plus I've had it happen multiple times over the past years. This weekend I had a big tar experience with an 09 HdM Gourmet. It was clipped, not punched. The tar-soaked end was clipped off and everything ended up well. There was enough tar oozing out the end that a paper towel wouldn't clear it up. The end was truly soaked. I usually know it's happening when I get a distinctive bitter flavor on my lips and usually past the half way point. I don't smoke fast at all and I don't chew or over-wet the end of my cigars. I've had it happen on my favorite sticks (MdO No.3) a couple of times, with a random stick out of a box where none of the others have any tar build up. I attribute it to the leaf used to roll said cigar. It seems to be more random than anything else. I've also had it happen to punched and clipped sticks. Never have used a V cut. It is mess and will clog your smoke. __________________ Somebody has to go back and get a chitload of dimes

03-11-2013, 09:30 PM	#12
AdamJoshua Article 4 Free Inhabitant Join Date: Jan 2013 First Name: The Other Adam Location: Satellite Beach Posts: 14,785 Trading: (40)	Re: Tar. Why does it vary so much from stick to stick? Never had this happen, when people say it happens are you talking about stronger more full bodied smokes? I tend to go with mild/medium CCs and haven't even been close to this happening, maybe I need to smoke more

03-12-2013, 05:02 PM	#13
CJS Lifting Expectations Join Date: Feb 2013 First Name: Chrys Location: Kuwait Posts: 75 Trading: (0)	Re: Tar. Why does it vary so much from stick to stick? Happened to me last weekend. I bought a box of 10 of Monte#2 dated May-12, rested them for about a month in my desktop humidor that maintains 65-68 RH. A buddy of mine dropped by and we both smoked one of those. He cut about 1/4in of the cap; while I cut mine 3/8in. He smoked faster than I did...and yet I was the one ended with tar oozing out about halfway down. That was the first time it ever happened to me. I clipped another 1/8in off but after several puffs, tar started to oozes out again that I had to put it down.

03-12-2013, 05:13 PM	#14
dwoodward Gentlemen, you may smoke! Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Derrick Location: South Dakota Posts: 1,868 Trading: (26)	Re: Tar. Why does it vary so much from stick to stick? Never had this happen to me. Sounds disgusting lol.