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Old 12-07-2019, 04:29 PM   #1
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Just smoked around a 9 year old Padron 46 years. It was bland and flavorless. I guess it faded because it had been sitting too long. Does this sound like something that any of you have experienced? Kind of discouraging as I am in the process of stocking my humidor and want my cigars to last years and years into the future. Suggestions or comments?
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Old 12-07-2019, 04:30 PM   #2
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Was it sitting in a drawer or on a desk, I kid (I hope it wasn't) are your cigars in a humidor, is it humidified properly?
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Old 12-07-2019, 05:02 PM   #3
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It was in a desktop humidor for about 5 years that was constantly at 70% humidity which maybe could have been too high. For the last 4 years it’s been in a MXt Aristocrat humidor that Bob Staebell has set at 65%.
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Old 12-07-2019, 05:06 PM   #4
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Depends on the cigar, I have some almost 10yo Cain F's that will still knock me on my A$$ the profile has changed but as far as "fading" no way still a solid smoke.
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Old 12-07-2019, 06:08 PM   #5
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Jon, was it natural or maduro? You must be loving the LSU game.
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Old 12-07-2019, 06:24 PM   #6
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It was a Maduro Jeff. I’m very much enjoying watching LSU and Burrow put on a clinic!
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Default Re: Cigars Fading?

I've had some cigars become mediocre after years of storage. I've also had some cigars become stellar. I've had some that don't seem to change. I've found there is no set time frame, sometimes it happens quick, sometimes not.

One thing about Padron anniversary cigars to keep in mind is that depending on which one it is, they can have some rather old tobacco in there right from the bench.
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I’m with T.G. There’s no real predicting.

In general, cigars lose their sharper edges over time. So, if you like really smooth tasting cigars, long aging might make you happy. On the other hand, if you like lots of spice and pepper, long aging is basically letting your investment waft away.
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I had a Montecriston '05 EL the other night that had become faded or at least it tasted that way to me at that time. Not all cigars benefit from extended aging. Need to stay on top of their evolution and fit that box into where it makes sense to smoke.

A lot of NC's start off with older tobacco, so they can get to like "smoking rice paper" if you age them too long. Pure white ash and nothing else.
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If we are talking NCs it is a strange phenomenon and really does not make much sense as tobacco should be tabbaco. But I have found that NCs just don't age well, I have tried lots of different brands with 10 + years on them . I did find it strange that I aged some Padron 3000's 5+ years and it tasted very similar to a anniversary. Even when we are talking Cuban cigars most guys that don't smoke a lot of them are used to and expect fresh, strong in you face flavor. I have given one of there guys a 15+ year old cuban and he actually thought it was fake I have talked to guys that thought a vintage cigar should taste moldy because that was his limited experience. It really is about storage and good tobacco to start with. Most guys do agree that you need a strong blend to stand up to long aging like Bolivar, Partagas and Ramon Allonnes to name a few. But that not entirely true, take cohiba for instance when young you get a taste of fresh grass. At the 10 to 15 year mark you get vanilla and rich cream. Age and good storage can be a great thing but a lot of the time its a acquired taste. I and sure the first time you tried wine you didn't think much of it.
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Default Re: Cigars Fading?

I have also had this experience with Padron Anniversary cigars.
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