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Old 06-02-2013, 12:56 AM   #1
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Lightbulb Cigar health issues...do you guys ever worry about it???

Just kinda curious. I was a casual cig smoker in my drinking days and was about a pack to a pack and a quarter smoker for 1.5 years before I quit. I am a recovering alcoholic (sober 9 months on the 8th) but thankfully I was a short term "hard drinker" for only 16 months or so I know some potential long term health issues are a maybe a result of those two. The quitting booze helped with the memory so it might sound odd, I'm not worried about adverse affects of the drinking as long as I remain sober, which I never plan to drink again. Or at least until I'm 70 and can be the old creepy guy at the club ogling the college girls lmao.

As the title asks, do you ever think about the consequences or the possibility / potential of the consequences of long term cigar smoking or suffered any thus far in your stogie career? Curious from the perspective of those that just mouth the smoke and those that retro-hale as well. When I started learning to retro-hale it opened up a whole new dimension so admittedly I have read not to do it consistently but on a stick say the size of a Undercrown Corona Viva! I retro a good 1/3rd of it. I can smoke a La Flor Dominican Double Ligero Digger on an empty stomach and not get a nic buzz and retro a good 3" of that 8 1/2" x 60 RG stick if that says anything.

In-between quitting smoking and picking up cigars again, I went for 1.5 years with no nicotine with the exception of last June when I was in LA for the Kings vs. Devils Stanley Cup games 3 & 4. I thought I'm on vacation, one pack won't hurt. I had two cigs and I thought I was going to have to go to the ER as my chest felt like an elephant was sitting on it or both my lungs collapsed. From that day on I knew / know I'll never smoke another cig again so I don't worry about a nic addiction from cigars.

My quantity has dropped of SIGNIFICANTLY since my humis decided to grow wings at 50mph in my catastrophic moving disaster and I moved to a "soft crash" place until I get back on my feet again that is not herf friendly. So went from about 2-3 a day (so up to 21 a week) to now maybe if I am lucky 2-4 a week.

Thoughts???

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Old 06-02-2013, 01:10 AM   #2
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The relaxation I get from cigars reduces my personal risk of stress induced stroke tenfold....that's all I nned to know.
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Old 06-02-2013, 01:13 AM   #3
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The relaxation I get from cigars reduces my personal risk of stress induced stroke tenfold....that's all I nned to know.
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Old enough to know better, James.
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Old 06-02-2013, 01:31 AM   #5
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Old enough to know better, James.
lmao, go to bed ya ole cranky bastardo!

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Old 06-05-2013, 06:49 PM   #6
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I always remind folks of Jack Lalanne.
Picture of health.
Lived to 96.
Was a promoter of juicing.
Swam tugging boats in the San Francisco Bay.
Never smoked.

In contrast, George Burns smoked 10-15 cigars DAILY for over 70 years.
Didn't exercise as walking was tough enough but always maintained his wit and lived to be 100.

Go figure.
Since I average one cigar a day, I need to kick it up a notch to reach that 10-15 a day.
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Old 06-05-2013, 06:51 PM   #7
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I always remind folks of Jack Lalanne.
Picture of health.
Lived to 96.
Was a promoter of juicing.
Swam tugging boats in the San Francisco Bay.
Never smoked.

In contrast, George Burns smoked 10-15 cigars DAILY for over 70 years.
Didn't exercise as walking was tough enough but always maintained his wit and lived to be 100.

Go figure.
Since I average one cigar a day, I need to kick it up a notch to reach that 10-15 a day.
I do worry about it...and I worry about a LOT of other crap too...so worrying will probably kill me 1st.
Carlos, I have been covering your share and mine lately...you're all set.
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The relaxation I get from cigars reduces my personal risk of stress induced stroke tenfold....that's all I nned to know.
This is my philosophy to a tee. When my wife and I first started getting serious years ago she gave me a little grief about smoking cigars especially since she quit smoking cigarettes because she knew I despised them. I flat out told her that if the cigars were gone that the stress would get me much faster than the cigars ever could. Plus I backed it up by showing her a laundry list of people who smoked 3-5 a day who lived well into their 90's. Needless to say she saw my point and stopped giving me grief about it. Years later my spending on the hobby became an issue but I quickly learned how to mask that so that it didn't look as bad. She's even gotten better on that front too so it's been a win win all around but I do make sure I keep most of what I buy quiet and don't flaunt it. No need to re-ignite that issue. I also only smoke between 1 or 2 a week most often so it's not like I am like most cigarette smokers and just mowing down sticks non stop freight train style. For me it's a way to sit and relax and forget about the stresses of everyday life for an hour or two whether it's sitting outside with a stick and a drink or hanging out with the guys smoking and shooting the sh*t. If it ever did become an issue with my health I know I could quit in a heart beat even though I would really miss the social aspect of it but I know I would have the ability to stop cold turkey if needed.
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Nope. As Iron Maiden sang in some song some time ago, "As soon as you're born you're dying". Might as well have some enjoyment on the journey.
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Nope. As Iron Maiden sang in some song some time ago, "As soon as you're born you're dying". Might as well have some enjoyment on the journey.
Wow I have not hear Iron Maiden I ages!! I suppose and Idon't remember who originated the line, "It's burn out than to fade away"

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Too many other things will kill me long before the cigars.So the short answer is no.
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Wow I have not hear Iron Maiden I ages!! I suppose and Idon't remember who originated the line, "It's burn out than to fade away"

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I smoke 2 or 3 sticks per day and this concerns me a little. It seems like there just isn't a lot of data compared to cigarettes.

The most immediate health issues I have concerning cigars are my allergies. They certainly don't help.
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Tell you what I know after six years of cigar smoking on a regular basis, my stress melts away. I find calm and peace and in this crazy and upside down world that is priceless.
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Nope. I do what I want!
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Just for my own curiosity I've asked both of my past two doctors about cigar smoking, without inhaling. First one told me that there was nothing I was doing to my health, the second one gave me a lecture about tobacco use. I stopped going to her.

We partake in many more dangerous activities to worry about cigars. Once when my wife and I were BS-ing about cigars and health she mentioned that Fidel has lived a very long life, as did God, well George Burns anyway.

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Just for my own curiosity I've asked both of my past two doctors about cigar smoking, without inhaling. First one told me that there was nothing I was doing to my health, the second one gave me a lecture about tobacco use. I stopped going to her.

We partake in many more dangerous activities to worry about cigars. Once when my wife and I were BS-ing about cigars and health she mentioned that Fidel has lived a very long life, as did God, well George Burns anyway.

And Winston Churchill, he drank quite a bit and smoked like a chimney.
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Only you can no when your cigar smoking goes beyond a relaxing past time to something else... Tobacco use is addicting and if you have tendencies towards addiciton, you have to be aware of what how often you do everyting.
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I am more concerned about how many cigars I buy as opposed to how many I smoke. I smoke less then I buy and some cigars are aging as I don't rotate them in for one reason or another and many don't age well.

I smoke outside and smoke about 5 - 7 a week. The data I've seen says that is nothing. But even it is bad life is not worth living if I have to be like Bloomberg.
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I'm with you weelok, about 7or8 a week. I'm 57 and chain smoked camels for 25 years before I quit around three years ago. Least of my worries is a few cigars.
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