is there even a such thing as a good machine made cigar

01-15-2011, 02:25 PM

i tried a machine made yesterday(mainly because it was free it was a swisher sweet perfecto) it was horrible i haven't touched a machine made since i picked up hand made's. was wondering if you were low on cash or handmade was unaccessible if there was a tolerable smoke out there.

Bill86 · 01-15-2011, 02:47 PM

You would have to be pretty low on cash. There are many quality $2.50-$3 handmades that can be had.

loki · 01-15-2011, 02:53 PM

i'm going to assume that you're looking for actual info here and not just trolling...though based on the 3 threads i've seen from you i'm starting to wonder...

there are several machine made that I like, the ryj and punch cigarlios are good, the los statos delux are quality cigars also. there are more i'm forgetting but i don't really care to look through my humidor and find them

01-15-2011, 07:46 PM

IMO Marsh Wheelings are pretty good... (especially for the money)
They're american made Panatela's! 50.00/bx (for 50 i believe)

01-15-2011, 07:49 PM

no

VirtualSmitty · 01-15-2011, 08:04 PM

Maybe from Cuba. Though I do recall some people on the old forum holding the grape swisher sweets in high regard.

Superbad · 01-15-2011, 08:09 PM

Once again, I like some CC MM cigars, but it seems all you do is complain. Try the NST and open your horizons.

massphatness · 01-15-2011, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Superbad

I like some CC MM cigars

shvictor · 01-15-2011, 08:30 PM

T.G · 01-15-2011, 08:37 PM

For non-Cuban, John Hay Statesman series are the only ones currently in production which I can think of that I would smoke.

They are US grown tobacco; no chemicals, homogenized tobacco or scraps. Not really all that complex, but a good full bodied cigar for the coin. If you like the CAO America, they are very compatible in flavors. Famous used to have them for $80 for a box of 50, I haven't checked recently on their prices.

From their website:

---BEGIN
The Statesman Series...

These John Hay Cigars are still being rolled—one at a time—on century old, hand-fed machines. This cigar is made with all natural tobacco, using a Lancaster County, Pennsylvania Broadleaf wrapper, Pennsylvania binder and a medium-filler blend from Connecticut, Maryland and Pennsylvania—no homogenized products, short fillers or scraps are ever used. This all-American cigar is offered in boxes of 50 and 5 pack sampler boxes as well as humidors.
---END

Ages ago, Dunhill produced some machine made dry cured cigar called "Grand Coronas", 5 cigars to a cardboard box. About 5-6 years ago, Cbid blew out the remainder of the stock for dirt cheap - like $15-19 for five 5 packs. I remember them as being quite tasty, but mild and not very complex.

BryanB · 01-15-2011, 08:53 PM

Villager Exports aren't bad. The dutch Dunhills were good. Not sure if they are in production anymore.
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01-15-2011, 11:16 PM

i know that a good cheap hand made is the tobaco biaz from don pepin

CoreyD · 01-16-2011, 01:55 AM

A Collegue at work is from Puerto Rico and a company that has done handmades for themselves and other companies just layed off lots of workers and went to machine made cigars of the same blends they had some great hand mades from what I read now what they taste like machine made?

Stephen · 01-16-2011, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty

Maybe from Cuba. Though I do recall some people on the old forum holding the grape swisher sweets in high regard.

I have a buddy that all he smokes are wine flavored Black & Milds.

newcigarz · 01-16-2011, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by massphatness

JJG · 01-16-2011, 10:25 AM

best I've had was a box of aged Los Statos Deluxe, which are still available but getting harder to come by. I only wish I hadn't gone through them all.

Lately I've been buying Davidoff Demitasse cigarillos which are pretty darn tasty. I'm not sure if they are machine made or not but most cigar shops carry them and 10 packs are around $15.

jesseboston81 · 01-16-2011, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JJG

10 packs are around $15.

Of course smoke what you like and like what you smoke, but if money is the sole concern, you can find decent hand-rolleds for around this price--just watch any of the auction sites, which often have 5-packs for about $10. Not directing this at Jeff personally, just responding to Eli's comment about smoking machine-mades if you are low on cash.

JJG · 01-16-2011, 11:29 AM

yeah, I guess I should have read the OP more carefully. If you're only looking into to machine mades for cash savings, there are plenty of budget handmades that can be found for around the same price as the MM cigars I mentioned.

I personally like to keep a handful of MMs around, not just because they're cheap, but sometimes you just want a quick smoke. Those LSDs were perfect for taking the dog around the block.

JDTexan · 01-16-2011, 11:57 AM

CC Mille Fleurs, some like aged RAs are outstanding.

markem · 01-16-2011, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JDTexan

CC Mille Fleurs

If you mean that the RyJ MFs are MM, they no longer are. Switched to HM in 2002. Same story for Party MFs.

01-15-2011, 02:25 PM	#1
Eli18 Guest Posts: n/a	is there even a such thing as a good machine made cigar i tried a machine made yesterday(mainly because it was free it was a swisher sweet perfecto) it was horrible i haven't touched a machine made since i picked up hand made's. was wondering if you were low on cash or handmade was unaccessible if there was a tolerable smoke out there.

01-15-2011, 02:47 PM	#2
Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: is there even a such thing as a good machine made cigar You would have to be pretty low on cash. There are many quality $2.50-$3 handmades that can be had.

01-15-2011, 02:53 PM	#3
loki H.A.T.E Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pittsburgh pa Posts: 1,484 Trading: (7)	Re: is there even a such thing as a good machine made cigar i'm going to assume that you're looking for actual info here and not just trolling...though based on the 3 threads i've seen from you i'm starting to wonder... there are several machine made that I like, the ryj and punch cigarlios are good, the los statos delux are quality cigars also. there are more i'm forgetting but i don't really care to look through my humidor and find them

01-15-2011, 07:46 PM	#4
whodeeni Guest Posts: n/a	Re: is there even a such thing as a good machine made cigar IMO Marsh Wheelings are pretty good... (especially for the money) They're american made Panatela's! 50.00/bx (for 50 i believe)

01-15-2011, 07:49 PM	#5
Cattani Guest Posts: n/a	Re: is there even a such thing as a good machine made cigar no

01-15-2011, 08:04 PM	#6
VirtualSmitty WiP!? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Joe Location: The Evil Empire Posts: 2,084 Trading: (0)	Re: is there even a such thing as a good machine made cigar Maybe from Cuba. Though I do recall some people on the old forum holding the grape swisher sweets in high regard. __________________ We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid - Benjamin Franklin

01-15-2011, 08:09 PM	#7
Superbad Have My Own Room Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Bobby Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 1,784 Trading: (53)	Re: is there even a such thing as a good machine made cigar Once again, I like some CC MM cigars, but it seems all you do is complain. Try the NST and open your horizons. __________________ Some say he can whistle dixie whilst drinking a chocolate milkshake and that moss can grow on all sides of him at the same time.. all I know is that he's called: The SuperBad! - Ninjavanish

01-15-2011, 08:30 PM	#9
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01-15-2011, 08:37 PM	#10
T.G Grrrrrr Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: The Other Adam Posts: 15,543 Trading: (37)	Re: is there even a such thing as a good machine made cigar For non-Cuban, John Hay Statesman series are the only ones currently in production which I can think of that I would smoke. They are US grown tobacco; no chemicals, homogenized tobacco or scraps. Not really all that complex, but a good full bodied cigar for the coin. If you like the CAO America, they are very compatible in flavors. Famous used to have them for $80 for a box of 50, I haven't checked recently on their prices. From their website: ---BEGIN The Statesman Series... These John Hay Cigars are still being rolled—one at a time—on century old, hand-fed machines. This cigar is made with all natural tobacco, using a Lancaster County, Pennsylvania Broadleaf wrapper, Pennsylvania binder and a medium-filler blend from Connecticut, Maryland and Pennsylvania—no homogenized products, short fillers or scraps are ever used. This all-American cigar is offered in boxes of 50 and 5 pack sampler boxes as well as humidors. ---END Ages ago, Dunhill produced some machine made dry cured cigar called "Grand Coronas", 5 cigars to a cardboard box. About 5-6 years ago, Cbid blew out the remainder of the stock for dirt cheap - like $15-19 for five 5 packs. I remember them as being quite tasty, but mild and not very complex.

01-15-2011, 08:53 PM	#11
BryanB Have My Own Room Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Bryan Location: Benson, NC Posts: 1,177 Trading: (58)	Re: is there even a such thing as a good machine made cigar Villager Exports aren't bad. The dutch Dunhills were good. Not sure if they are in production anymore. Posted via Mobile Device

01-15-2011, 11:16 PM	#12
Eli18 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: is there even a such thing as a good machine made cigar i know that a good cheap hand made is the tobaco biaz from don pepin

01-16-2011, 01:55 AM	#13
CoreyD Licking my wounds Join Date: Oct 2010 First Name: Corey Location: NE Wisconsin Posts: 1,468 Trading: (23)	Re: is there even a such thing as a good machine made cigar A Collegue at work is from Puerto Rico and a company that has done handmades for themselves and other companies just layed off lots of workers and went to machine made cigars of the same blends they had some great hand mades from what I read now what they taste like machine made? __________________ Serenity - 1. A disposition free from stress or emotion. 2. The absence of mental stress or anxiety

01-16-2011, 10:25 AM	#16
JJG Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Houston Posts: 1,260 Trading: (4)	Re: is there even a such thing as a good machine made cigar best I've had was a box of aged Los Statos Deluxe, which are still available but getting harder to come by. I only wish I hadn't gone through them all. Lately I've been buying Davidoff Demitasse cigarillos which are pretty darn tasty. I'm not sure if they are machine made or not but most cigar shops carry them and 10 packs are around $15.

01-16-2011, 11:29 AM	#18
JJG Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Houston Posts: 1,260 Trading: (4)	Re: is there even a such thing as a good machine made cigar yeah, I guess I should have read the OP more carefully. If you're only looking into to machine mades for cash savings, there are plenty of budget handmades that can be found for around the same price as the MM cigars I mentioned. I personally like to keep a handful of MMs around, not just because they're cheap, but sometimes you just want a quick smoke. Those LSDs were perfect for taking the dog around the block.

01-16-2011, 11:57 AM	#19
JDTexan College Football Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Justin Location: Conservativeville Posts: 597 Trading: (3)	Re: is there even a such thing as a good machine made cigar CC Mille Fleurs, some like aged RAs are outstanding.