Best way to seal a big cabinet

sevans105 · 12-22-2011, 01:49 AM

Maintaining a constant rh level in this thingis a huge pain. I think I'm really trying to maintain this whole room instead. Anyone have any experience in making this an actual humidor and not just a cabinet?

Any input would be appreciated.

BlkDrew · 12-22-2011, 02:31 AM

I have noticed that those cabinets do not have a seal. Go to Lowes or Home Depot and get a small weather seal and place it on the body of the cabinet. If it does not have a latch to keep the door closed you can always get one that is a spade shaped male end that goes on the door and the female end that is two rollers that goes on the body.

The best seal I have found is a "D" type seal tha is shaped like a D and has double sided tape on the I portion of the D. The seal is no more than a centimeter wide.

You could also go the extra step and get a clear caulk that does not smell, don't use silicone, it stinks. Remove all te shelves and caulk all the seams on the body.

Flounder · 12-22-2011, 02:40 AM

I think Drew hit the nail on the head, weatherstrip the edges where the door meets the cabinet, put a latch on it to keep it closed tightly. And you will need something to seal the corners of the cabinet.

irratebass · 12-22-2011, 04:20 AM

Check this out Steve, I seen this advertisement yesterday and thought of some of you who have humi leaks

https://www.asseenontv.com/stop-leak...top-leaks-fast

pnoon · 12-22-2011, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BlkDrew

The best seal I have found is a "D" type seal tha is shaped like a D

which is not to be confused with the "D" type seal that is shaped like a K.

sevans105 · 12-22-2011, 07:52 AM

Yeah, those K shaped seals are pretty useless....Sea World won't even take them. They just look funny.

Good advice on the weatherstripping though. I'll go pick some up this afternoon. It does have a latch built in...a lock actually, and the hinges are depth adjustable so I think with a bit of effort this might actually be a good thing.
Thanks!

Chainsaw13 · 12-22-2011, 08:13 AM

Scott, I have nearly that same cabinet. Are the sides of yours made out of laminated medium density fiber board or actual wood? Mine are the fiber board and I'm currently having an issue with the screws pulling out of the bottom hinge. If yours is the same, just be careful that adding the weather stripping may add more pressure on the hinges as you try to close the door.

sevans105 · 12-22-2011, 08:16 AM

The sides are laminate. I'll be careful with the hinges...thanks for the heads up!

Chainsaw13 · 12-22-2011, 08:21 AM

I figured as much. I"m thinking of plugging mine with dowels, then redrilling some pilot holes and using longer screws so they sink in further.

If I wasn't looking at a treadmill, I might just get a better cabinet.

sevans105 · 12-22-2011, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chainsaw13

I figured as much. I"m thinking of plugging mine with dowels, then redrilling some pilot holes and using longer screws so they sink in further.

If I wasn't looking at a treadmill, I might just get a better cabinet.

How many cigars can a treadmill hold?

Chainsaw13 · 12-22-2011, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sevans105

How many cigars can a treadmill hold?

Quite a few until you hit the "Go" button.

Apoco · 12-22-2011, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chainsaw13

I figured as much. I"m thinking of plugging mine with dowels, then redrilling some pilot holes and using longer screws so they sink in further.

If I wasn't looking at a treadmill, I might just get a better cabinet.

You can break off a few toothpicks in the stripped out hole and do essentially the same thing. You have the added bonus of already having a pilot hole drilled.
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danreeve · 12-22-2011, 10:05 AM

I have the same one and 4 pounds of beads seems to keep it pretty stable. I have to spray them down in the winter maybe every other week, but in the summer. we're good.

The seal on the door is not tight like everyone says... but it doesn't seem to be to big a deal for me.

all that said.. weather stripping could make it even better.

Volusianator · 12-22-2011, 10:13 AM

Please tell me your not serious on this!

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Originally Posted by irratebass

Check this out Steve, I seen this advertisement yesterday and thought of some of you who have humi leaks

https://www.asseenontv.com/stop-leak...top-leaks-fast

sevans105 · 12-22-2011, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Volusianator

Please tell me your not serious on this!

It's Mickey....why would you think he was serious? He's Named after a frikkin cartoon mouse for pete's sake!

Although, to his credit, if you ever find yourself with the bottom of your boat replaced by a screen door, you are gonna be grateful for Mickey looking out for you.

It could happen!

e-man67 · 12-22-2011, 10:26 AM

just use the peel and stick weatherstripping (foam stuff) and get a staebell set and forget. I have a very large cabinet and this works fine.

Chainsaw13 · 12-22-2011, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Apoco

You can break off a few toothpicks in the stripped out hole and do essentially the same thing. You have the added bonus of already having a pilot hole drilled.
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I thought of doing that also.

irratebass · 12-22-2011, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sevans105

It's Mickey....why would you think he was serious? He's Named after a frikkin cartoon mouse for pete's sake!

Although, to his credit, if you ever find yourself with the bottom of your boat replaced by a screen door, you are gonna be grateful for Mickey looking out for you.

It could happen!

12-22-2011, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Chainsaw13

Scott, I have nearly that same cabinet. Are the sides of yours made out of laminated medium density fiber board or actual wood? Mine are the fiber board and I'm currently having an issue with the screws pulling out of the bottom hinge. If yours is the same, just be careful that adding the weather stripping may add more pressure on the hinges as you try to close the door.

do not put the weatherstripping on the front edge of the cabinet. put it on side wall, and just have it stick over the edge a little bit. this way wont cause pressure on the hinges

shilala · 12-22-2011, 12:09 PM

Those cabinets are not very structurally sound. They're nice and they'll work good, but you have to be cautious with them.

First thing is that you have to have them sitting on a solid surface. No carpet. Otherwise they'll rack and you'll never get a seal. If it must stay on carpet, an oversized piece of 3/4 plywood underneath the entire unit will suffice if you can make it stay level once the unit is on it.
All that stuff on top, it's gotta go. That weight will cause the unit to rack out of square and the door won't seal. It's not meant to have stuff on top of it, and it can't support it. It's not designed to, and it's not engineered to have things stacked on it.
Try to balance/spread the weight of your boxes and stuff evenly in the unit, too. That's important.
Once those issues are addressed, you can let it settle for a bit and see if she squares back up. That may alleviate some issues, then you can march on from there.
Right now you're in "user caused error" land, my brother. Get that ironed out and it'll likely fix itself.

If not, there's all sorts of fixes that come next, but you have to start with a solid foundation.
Good Luck, my friend!!!

12-22-2011, 01:49 AM	#1
sevans105 Alpha Zombie Wolf "Sceve" Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Scott Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 1,786 Trading: (30)	Best way to seal a big cabinet Maintaining a constant rh level in this thingis a huge pain. I think I'm really trying to maintain this whole room instead. Anyone have any experience in making this an actual humidor and not just a cabinet? Any input would be appreciated. __________________

12-22-2011, 02:31 AM	#2
BlkDrew Rolling my own... Join Date: Dec 2009 First Name: Andrew Location: Rochester NY Posts: 807 Trading: (43)	Re: Best way to seal a big cabinet I have noticed that those cabinets do not have a seal. Go to Lowes or Home Depot and get a small weather seal and place it on the body of the cabinet. If it does not have a latch to keep the door closed you can always get one that is a spade shaped male end that goes on the door and the female end that is two rollers that goes on the body. The best seal I have found is a "D" type seal tha is shaped like a D and has double sided tape on the I portion of the D. The seal is no more than a centimeter wide. You could also go the extra step and get a clear caulk that does not smell, don't use silicone, it stinks. Remove all te shelves and caulk all the seams on the body.

12-22-2011, 02:40 AM	#3
Flounder Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Jun 2011 First Name: Ethan Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 422 Trading: (1)	Re: Best way to seal a big cabinet I think Drew hit the nail on the head, weatherstrip the edges where the door meets the cabinet, put a latch on it to keep it closed tightly. And you will need something to seal the corners of the cabinet. __________________ "Any cigar smoker is friend, because I know how he feels." - Alfred de Musset

12-22-2011, 04:20 AM	#4
irratebass EMPEROR TOMPKINS Join Date: Aug 2011 First Name: Mickey Location: Mooresville, Indiana Posts: 8,313 Trading: (48)	Re: Best way to seal a big cabinet Check this out Steve, I seen this advertisement yesterday and thought of some of you who have humi leaks https://www.asseenontv.com/stop-leak...top-leaks-fast __________________

12-22-2011, 07:52 AM	#6
sevans105 Alpha Zombie Wolf "Sceve" Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Scott Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 1,786 Trading: (30)	Re: Best way to seal a big cabinet Yeah, those K shaped seals are pretty useless....Sea World won't even take them. They just look funny. Good advice on the weatherstripping though. I'll go pick some up this afternoon. It does have a latch built in...a lock actually, and the hinges are depth adjustable so I think with a bit of effort this might actually be a good thing. Thanks! __________________

12-22-2011, 08:13 AM	#7
Chainsaw13 Møøse bites can be nasty Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Bob Location: The Enchanted Mitten Posts: 7,034 Trading: (96)	Re: Best way to seal a big cabinet Scott, I have nearly that same cabinet. Are the sides of yours made out of laminated medium density fiber board or actual wood? Mine are the fiber board and I'm currently having an issue with the screws pulling out of the bottom hinge. If yours is the same, just be careful that adding the weather stripping may add more pressure on the hinges as you try to close the door. __________________ My neighbor came by my house this morning at 2AM, pounding on the door. Good thing I was still up playing the drums.

12-22-2011, 08:16 AM	#8
sevans105 Alpha Zombie Wolf "Sceve" Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Scott Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 1,786 Trading: (30)	Re: Best way to seal a big cabinet The sides are laminate. I'll be careful with the hinges...thanks for the heads up! __________________

12-22-2011, 08:21 AM	#9
Chainsaw13 Møøse bites can be nasty Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Bob Location: The Enchanted Mitten Posts: 7,034 Trading: (96)	Re: Best way to seal a big cabinet I figured as much. I"m thinking of plugging mine with dowels, then redrilling some pilot holes and using longer screws so they sink in further. If I wasn't looking at a treadmill, I might just get a better cabinet. __________________ My neighbor came by my house this morning at 2AM, pounding on the door. Good thing I was still up playing the drums.

12-22-2011, 10:05 AM	#13
danreeve Feeling at Home Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Dan Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 733 Trading: (2)	Re: Best way to seal a big cabinet I have the same one and 4 pounds of beads seems to keep it pretty stable. I have to spray them down in the winter maybe every other week, but in the summer. we're good. The seal on the door is not tight like everyone says... but it doesn't seem to be to big a deal for me. all that said.. weather stripping could make it even better. __________________ http://cigarpress.com/

12-22-2011, 10:26 AM	#16
e-man67 Big Drunkin Monkey!! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Eric Posts: 1,480 Trading: (29)	Re: Best way to seal a big cabinet just use the peel and stick weatherstripping (foam stuff) and get a staebell set and forget. I have a very large cabinet and this works fine. __________________ Big hairy Ape chuggin whiskey by the barrel full..making ladies cry!

12-22-2011, 12:09 PM	#20
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Best way to seal a big cabinet Those cabinets are not very structurally sound. They're nice and they'll work good, but you have to be cautious with them. First thing is that you have to have them sitting on a solid surface. No carpet. Otherwise they'll rack and you'll never get a seal. If it must stay on carpet, an oversized piece of 3/4 plywood underneath the entire unit will suffice if you can make it stay level once the unit is on it. All that stuff on top, it's gotta go. That weight will cause the unit to rack out of square and the door won't seal. It's not meant to have stuff on top of it, and it can't support it. It's not designed to, and it's not engineered to have things stacked on it. Try to balance/spread the weight of your boxes and stuff evenly in the unit, too. That's important. Once those issues are addressed, you can let it settle for a bit and see if she squares back up. That may alleviate some issues, then you can march on from there. Right now you're in "user caused error" land, my brother. Get that ironed out and it'll likely fix itself. If not, there's all sorts of fixes that come next, but you have to start with a solid foundation. Good Luck, my friend!!! __________________