Negative Brand Bias? - Page 2

tedrodgerscpa · 01-22-2009, 10:54 AM

Marcas I always assume are 'not for me'...

CAO, Ghurka, Macanudo (although I broke my rule and smoked a 1968), DR Cohiba, DR RyJ, Playboy (heck, most Altadis stuff)...

01-22-2009, 11:00 AM

I'm with Bob. If I tossed a whole brand every time I got a cigar I didn't like I wouldn't smoke anything, probably. Especially most CCs. So unpredictable. Same goes the other way. If I find a really good cigar I don't attribute it to the whole brand. Or for that type, year after year. No brand loyalty here.

01-22-2009, 11:01 AM

I have not been to impressed with Rocky Patel either but I got to tell you, do not pass up the RP decade, probably his best smoke in my opinion.

landhoney · 01-22-2009, 11:11 AM

Not exactly the question, but I hate companies copying the Cuban brands/bands. Like LGC, aren't you well known enough know that you don't have to copy the Cuban labels? I don't buy many NC's nowadays, but I really don't buy these.

icehog3 · 01-22-2009, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenbaseg

P.S. My intentions are not to start a Gurhka bashing.

Gurkhas suck.

Pat1075 · 01-22-2009, 11:37 AM

Rocky Patel I'll still give it a fair shot when a new one comes into the shop (or at least try to). I just don't like it.
I used to be this way with CAO and it was really hard for me to get over I thought they were all flash and no go for a few years. But this new LX2 blew me away. I got about halfway through the stick grabbed my staff pick of the month thing from the cubao and put it right onto it. I just tried the America reverse wrapped perfecto from the sampler pack yesterday and it was phenomenal. But I used to just see CAO and refuse to even try it.

bobarian · 01-22-2009, 12:32 PM

Cigars to change you mind.(Or at least open you to the possibilities)

CAO-Extreme, Waiting to try the LX2
RP-Edge Sumatra
Macanudo-1968
Gurkha-Shaggy

Neither the 1968 nor the Shaggy are great smokes, but they are different enough from the regular line to merit a try if the humi is empty.

tsolomon · 01-22-2009, 12:47 PM

Perdomo, they dry my mouth out and leave a soapy taste. It didn't help when the Perdomo rep gave me a hard time about not liking them during an event at the local B&M awhile back. I'm still trying to find a RP to like, so they are on the list.

doctorcue · 01-22-2009, 12:49 PM

NO: Sinclair, Reyes, Gurkha

All other I'm game for.

01-22-2009, 12:53 PM

CAO.

I try to be fair with them, Gurkha is the same way.

While I normally will try a CAO and be let down trying to be fair, I don't even touch Gurkhas.

01-22-2009, 12:55 PM

I tend to avoid Toranos like the plague. Absolutely horrible, every one of them. I can count the number of Gurkahs I have had on one hand and did not care for them at all, so I really cant slag them that badly. but please can we toss Torano under the bus?

Scottw · 01-22-2009, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steelergar

I have not been to impressed with Rocky Patel either but I got to tell you, do not pass up the RP decade, probably his best smoke in my opinion.

RP Decade is tasty. Philip Gregorio and Drew Estates are probably 2 I stay away from.

ActionAndy · 01-22-2009, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by landhoney

Not exactly the question, but I hate companies copying the Cuban brands/bands. Like LGC, aren't you well known enough know that you don't have to copy the Cuban labels? I don't buy many NC's nowadays, but I really don't buy these.

I'm the same way. I don't care what the reviews say, what other people say, or how well they sell. When I found out that those companies weren't actually extensions fo the cuban brands it just seemed like such a cheap move to me. I stayed away from them for a long long time (relative to how long I've been smoking that is).

Then I was gifted an HdM Excalibur Legend and the stogie really knocked my socks off. I love it and wish I could smoke full-bodied cigars more often cuz they'd be a staple for me then. I'm now more open to trying things from those brands but I still don't feel like it's a classy move to copy a brand image.

RevSmoke · 01-22-2009, 02:27 PM

Macanudo
Victor Sinclair
Cohibas from DR

Agent11br · 01-22-2009, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killjoy

I tend to avoid Toranos like the plague. Absolutely horrible, every one of them.

x2

that and R&J's...

I'm surprised to see so many CAO's but it's understandable, I've never been a huge fan but have only had a few.

I honestly thought this was going to be a Drew Estate bash fest...

01-22-2009, 03:13 PM

Perdomo
Avalon
Nub

01-22-2009, 03:24 PM

Victor Sinclair
Cu-Avana
Don Diego

JJG · 01-22-2009, 03:29 PM

I can't stand CAO's futuristic bands/logos and as a result I'm negatively biased towards everything they put out.

lets see, what else..

this guy just looks like he's saying "my cigars are really shitty"

01-22-2009, 03:39 PM

Anything Rolando Reyes makes (Puros Indios, Aliados, Cienfuego, etc) is pure

JJG · 01-22-2009, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by butterB

Anything Rolando Reyes makes (Puros Indios, Aliados, Cienfuego, etc) is pure

oh jesus, I smoked a puros indios once and it was so bad I still remember the taste; like grass or hay. yuck

01-22-2009, 10:54 AM	#21
tedrodgerscpa Palmetto State Herf Crew! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ted Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,712 Trading: (87)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Marcas I always assume are 'not for me'... CAO, Ghurka, Macanudo (although I broke my rule and smoked a 1968), DR Cohiba, DR RyJ, Playboy (heck, most Altadis stuff)... __________________ Everyday I'm shufflin...

01-22-2009, 11:00 AM	#22
BC-Axeman Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Negative Brand Bias? I'm with Bob. If I tossed a whole brand every time I got a cigar I didn't like I wouldn't smoke anything, probably. Especially most CCs. So unpredictable. Same goes the other way. If I find a really good cigar I don't attribute it to the whole brand. Or for that type, year after year. No brand loyalty here.

01-22-2009, 11:01 AM	#23
Steelergar Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Negative Brand Bias? I have not been to impressed with Rocky Patel either but I got to tell you, do not pass up the RP decade, probably his best smoke in my opinion.

01-22-2009, 11:11 AM	#24
landhoney Mr. Charisma Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Seth Location: In the forest Posts: 2,639 Trading: (32)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Not exactly the question, but I hate companies copying the Cuban brands/bands. Like LGC, aren't you well known enough know that you don't have to copy the Cuban labels? I don't buy many NC's nowadays, but I really don't buy these.

01-22-2009, 11:37 AM	#26
Pat1075 Feeling at Home Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Patrick Location: Lakewood, OH Posts: 755 Trading: (11)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Rocky Patel I'll still give it a fair shot when a new one comes into the shop (or at least try to). I just don't like it. I used to be this way with CAO and it was really hard for me to get over I thought they were all flash and no go for a few years. But this new LX2 blew me away. I got about halfway through the stick grabbed my staff pick of the month thing from the cubao and put it right onto it. I just tried the America reverse wrapped perfecto from the sampler pack yesterday and it was phenomenal. But I used to just see CAO and refuse to even try it.

01-22-2009, 12:32 PM	#27
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Cigars to change you mind.(Or at least open you to the possibilities) CAO-Extreme, Waiting to try the LX2 RP-Edge Sumatra Macanudo-1968 Gurkha-Shaggy Neither the 1968 nor the Shaggy are great smokes, but they are different enough from the regular line to merit a try if the humi is empty.

01-22-2009, 12:47 PM	#28
tsolomon Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: The Villages, FL Posts: 1,240 Trading: (31)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Perdomo, they dry my mouth out and leave a soapy taste. It didn't help when the Perdomo rep gave me a hard time about not liking them during an event at the local B&M awhile back. I'm still trying to find a RP to like, so they are on the list.

01-22-2009, 12:49 PM	#29
doctorcue BABOTL - VP of Drinking Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Danny Location: Rancho Cordova, CA Posts: 331 Trading: (2)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? NO: Sinclair, Reyes, Gurkha All other I'm game for. __________________ Raiders, A's, Warriors.

01-22-2009, 12:53 PM	#30
Ace$nyper Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Negative Brand Bias? CAO. I try to be fair with them, Gurkha is the same way. While I normally will try a CAO and be let down trying to be fair, I don't even touch Gurkhas.

01-22-2009, 12:55 PM	#31
Killjoy Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Negative Brand Bias? I tend to avoid Toranos like the plague. Absolutely horrible, every one of them. I can count the number of Gurkahs I have had on one hand and did not care for them at all, so I really cant slag them that badly. but please can we toss Torano under the bus?

01-22-2009, 02:27 PM	#34
RevSmoke Ain't Never Gonna Leave Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Todd Location: Northcentral woods of Wisconsin Posts: 6,808 Trading: (51)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Macanudo Victor Sinclair Cohibas from DR __________________ Todd__ "Smoke what you like, and enjoy it!"

01-22-2009, 03:13 PM	#36
hurricane6 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Perdomo Avalon Nub

01-22-2009, 03:24 PM	#37
ronhoffman2 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Victor Sinclair Cu-Avana Don Diego

01-22-2009, 03:29 PM	#38
JJG Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Houston Posts: 1,260 Trading: (4)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? I can't stand CAO's futuristic bands/logos and as a result I'm negatively biased towards everything they put out. lets see, what else.. this guy just looks like he's saying "my cigars are really shitty" Last edited by JJG; 01-22-2009 at 03:40 PM.

01-22-2009, 03:39 PM	#39
butterB Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Anything Rolando Reyes makes (Puros Indios, Aliados, Cienfuego, etc) is pure