Help me with my humidor!

09-23-2010, 09:43 PM

So I got the two samplers I ordered today, but I'm still waiting for my humidor to settle. I calibrated the hygrometer using a teaspoon of salt, a few drops of water in a ziploc bag for about 24 hours. I set it to 75 immediately. In the several seconds it took me to walk over to the humidor the needle dropped to about 65 or so. The instructions said not to wet the inside of the humidor. Instead I placed a cup of distilled water in the humidor. The needle hasn't dipped below 80 in over 24 hours. Is this normal? how long should it take for a small (40 sticks) humi to properly season? Am I missing a step somewhere. Thanks in advance for the advice!

icehog3 · 09-23-2010, 10:37 PM

Are you using humidity beads? The distilled water you have in the humidor will get 65% or 70% beads to their desired level, and then your humidity will stabilize. The beads also absorb humidity when it gets higher than your desired level. The water will just keep putting out humidity, not absorbing it if it gets too high.

DPD6030 · 09-23-2010, 11:02 PM

What type of hydrometer are you using analog or digital?

icehog3 · 09-23-2010, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DPD6030

What type of hydrometer are you using analog or digital?

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Originally Posted by lunneyz

The needle hasn't dipped below 80 in over 24 hours.

That might be a big part of the problem...Analog hygrometers aren't worth the metal their made with.

09-23-2010, 11:48 PM

I'm not using the beads. Are they an add-on or substitute for the humidifier? I am using an analog hygrometer that came with the humidor. I cracked the lid open for a bit and that seemed to help lower the humidity level. I only used maybe an ounce of distilled water when charging the humidifier (it is the small round type). Will this be enough to keep the humidity level stable. I took the cup of water out too.

dwoodward · 09-24-2010, 12:17 AM

You will be fine mate, just give it a few days to a week to settle.

DPD6030 · 09-24-2010, 01:17 AM

If I were you Zack I would get a digital hydrometer so you're not messing with the needle all the time. They (the analogs) fail a lot of the time. I have digitals along with beads in my cooler and have not had a problem yet. I calibrate every 6 months to make sure they are accurate. Beads are where it's at but do incur extra cost. The green humidifier can/will mold.

bobarian · 09-24-2010, 02:17 AM

The green foam type humidifier are meant to be used with PG solution. All you are doing is adding moisture, that is why you are reading so high. There is nothing to regulate humidity. PG(propylene glycol) will regulate to 70%. You can get beads that will regulate to 60 or 65%. As the others have suggested a digital hygrometer will give you a more accurate reading. But you need a humidifier that will both raise and lower humidity as needed.

bigdix · 09-24-2010, 02:30 AM

Another vote for the digital hygro, and either PG or switch to some beads. I had a brand new analog hygro that came with my first little humi and it crapped out in about a week. It was never accurate. Xikar (I think?) makes a nice one you can calibrate. Pretty cheap too.

09-24-2010, 06:38 AM

I don't know about all the analog bashing, I have both since I bought an analog first, and its keeping up with my digital one and is often times more accurate since its got degrees on it rather than rounds up or down like my digital.

But you should really get a digital, my analog, while decent, is a back up to my digital, and I think at walmart, they have them for $10 or a little less. I also got some humidity gel, well the container says crystals, but it was $6 a container and it keeps my small-medium cooler at 65% without fail, and it works off of distilled water

ucla695 · 09-24-2010, 06:44 AM

A digital hygro and beads will do wonders for your peace of mind.

09-24-2010, 07:41 AM

Thanks for the advice guys. I will look into getting some beads and a digital hygrometer. I left the humidor cracked open overnight and it's down to about 75. Will putting the cigars into the humidor also help it settle? When I do put the cigars in, should I take them out of the plastic?

icehog3 · 09-24-2010, 08:18 AM

I would wait until your humidor is solid around 70% or lower before adding cigars, 75% may cause them to smoke poorly and could result in mold if left that high too long.

The cello on or off question? Personal preference. I leave it on.

waffle · 09-24-2010, 09:09 AM

Also, take a look at this stickied thread... it helped out TONS when I was seasoning my first humi. If you're worried about the sticks you have... tupperware is a pretty nice substitute for a few days.

09-25-2010, 01:02 AM

If you haven't thought about using kitty litter, you might want to think about it. I bought 4lbs for $10 and with a light spritzing of distilled water it holds rH at 68% perfectly. I had to get past the thought of the fact it is kitty litter but honestly it works perfectly. Look for the Exquisicat Krystals. I swear it works.

CigarNut · 09-25-2010, 10:16 AM

Kitty Litter may be good for some things, but it's not that great in a humidor. KL is also not good at maintaining and regulating your RH unless the ambient RH of your environment (room) is close to that of your cigars...

Sure it works, but why trust hundreds of dollars of cigars to a product that is made to absorb cat urine?? I suppose you could use vegetable oil in your car engine -- it is oil afterall -- but is it the best tool for the job? Not really... Just my

icehog3 · 09-25-2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CigarNut

Kitty Litter may be good for some things, but it's not that great in a humidor. KL is also not good at maintaining and regulating your RH unless the ambient RH of your environment (room) is close to that of your cigars...

Sure it works, but why trust hundreds of dollars of cigars to a product that is made to absorb cat urine?? I suppose you could use vegetable oil in your car engine -- it is oil afterall -- but is it the best tool for the job? Not really... Just my

I ain't scrimping to save $20 when it comes to maintaining 100s or 1000s of dollars worth of cigars.

longknocker · 09-25-2010, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

I ain't scrimping to save $20 when it comes to maintaining 100s or 1000s of dollars worth of cigars.

Amen! Only The Best Go Into My Humis; Why Take A Chance?

09-26-2010, 03:27 PM

Good thread waffle. I am leaving a cup of distilled water in my humidor now and looking into getting a digital hygrometer. In the meantime I will recharge my humidifier (I don't think I put enough distilled water in it) and try to recalibrate my analog hygrometer. I want to make sure my box is good and ready for those cigars.

09-23-2010, 09:43 PM	#1
lunneyz Guest Posts: n/a	Help me with my humidor! So I got the two samplers I ordered today, but I'm still waiting for my humidor to settle. I calibrated the hygrometer using a teaspoon of salt, a few drops of water in a ziploc bag for about 24 hours. I set it to 75 immediately. In the several seconds it took me to walk over to the humidor the needle dropped to about 65 or so. The instructions said not to wet the inside of the humidor. Instead I placed a cup of distilled water in the humidor. The needle hasn't dipped below 80 in over 24 hours. Is this normal? how long should it take for a small (40 sticks) humi to properly season? Am I missing a step somewhere. Thanks in advance for the advice!

09-23-2010, 10:37 PM	#2
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 70,539 Trading: (61)	Re: Help me with my humidor! Are you using humidity beads? The distilled water you have in the humidor will get 65% or 70% beads to their desired level, and then your humidity will stabilize. The beads also absorb humidity when it gets higher than your desired level. The water will just keep putting out humidity, not absorbing it if it gets too high. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

09-23-2010, 11:02 PM	#3
DPD6030 Shepard of the sheeple Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Mitten Posts: 7,166 Trading: (151)	Re: Help me with my humidor! What type of hydrometer are you using analog or digital?

09-23-2010, 11:48 PM	#5
lunneyz Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Help me with my humidor! I'm not using the beads. Are they an add-on or substitute for the humidifier? I am using an analog hygrometer that came with the humidor. I cracked the lid open for a bit and that seemed to help lower the humidity level. I only used maybe an ounce of distilled water when charging the humidifier (it is the small round type). Will this be enough to keep the humidity level stable. I took the cup of water out too.

09-24-2010, 12:17 AM	#6
dwoodward Gentlemen, you may smoke! Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Derrick Location: South Dakota Posts: 1,868 Trading: (26)	Re: Help me with my humidor! You will be fine mate, just give it a few days to a week to settle.

09-24-2010, 01:17 AM	#7
DPD6030 Shepard of the sheeple Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Mitten Posts: 7,166 Trading: (151)	Re: Help me with my humidor! If I were you Zack I would get a digital hydrometer so you're not messing with the needle all the time. They (the analogs) fail a lot of the time. I have digitals along with beads in my cooler and have not had a problem yet. I calibrate every 6 months to make sure they are accurate. Beads are where it's at but do incur extra cost. The green humidifier can/will mold.

09-24-2010, 02:17 AM	#8
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Help me with my humidor! The green foam type humidifier are meant to be used with PG solution. All you are doing is adding moisture, that is why you are reading so high. There is nothing to regulate humidity. PG(propylene glycol) will regulate to 70%. You can get beads that will regulate to 60 or 65%. As the others have suggested a digital hygrometer will give you a more accurate reading. But you need a humidifier that will both raise and lower humidity as needed.

09-24-2010, 02:30 AM	#9
bigdix Cigarmurai Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Dan Location: Oki Posts: 669 Trading: (1)	Re: Help me with my humidor! Another vote for the digital hygro, and either PG or switch to some beads. I had a brand new analog hygro that came with my first little humi and it crapped out in about a week. It was never accurate. Xikar (I think?) makes a nice one you can calibrate. Pretty cheap too. __________________ There's no secret handshake. There's an IQ prerequisite, but there's no secret handshake.

09-24-2010, 06:38 AM	#10
gijoey959 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Help me with my humidor! I don't know about all the analog bashing, I have both since I bought an analog first, and its keeping up with my digital one and is often times more accurate since its got degrees on it rather than rounds up or down like my digital. But you should really get a digital, my analog, while decent, is a back up to my digital, and I think at walmart, they have them for $10 or a little less. I also got some humidity gel, well the container says crystals, but it was $6 a container and it keeps my small-medium cooler at 65% without fail, and it works off of distilled water

09-24-2010, 06:44 AM	#11
ucla695 Neither here, nor there Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Pool Posts: 3,696 Trading: (5)	Re: Help me with my humidor! A digital hygro and beads will do wonders for your peace of mind.

09-24-2010, 07:41 AM	#12
lunneyz Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Help me with my humidor! Thanks for the advice guys. I will look into getting some beads and a digital hygrometer. I left the humidor cracked open overnight and it's down to about 75. Will putting the cigars into the humidor also help it settle? When I do put the cigars in, should I take them out of the plastic?

09-24-2010, 08:18 AM	#13
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 70,539 Trading: (61)	Re: Help me with my humidor! I would wait until your humidor is solid around 70% or lower before adding cigars, 75% may cause them to smoke poorly and could result in mold if left that high too long. The cello on or off question? Personal preference. I leave it on. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

09-24-2010, 09:09 AM	#14
waffle Who doesn't love Waffles? Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Steve (Stephen) Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,195 Trading: (38)	Re: Help me with my humidor! Also, take a look at this stickied thread... it helped out TONS when I was seasoning my first humi. If you're worried about the sticks you have... tupperware is a pretty nice substitute for a few days.

09-25-2010, 01:02 AM	#15
clintgeek Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Help me with my humidor! If you haven't thought about using kitty litter, you might want to think about it. I bought 4lbs for $10 and with a light spritzing of distilled water it holds rH at 68% perfectly. I had to get past the thought of the fact it is kitty litter but honestly it works perfectly. Look for the Exquisicat Krystals. I swear it works.

09-25-2010, 10:16 AM	#16
CigarNut Fck Cancer! Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Michael Location: Clermont, Florida Posts: 18,038 Trading: (111*)	Re: Help me with my humidor! Kitty Litter may be good for some things, but it's not that great in a humidor. KL is also not good at maintaining and regulating your RH unless the ambient RH of your environment (room) is close to that of your cigars... Sure it works, but why trust hundreds of dollars of cigars to a product that is made to absorb cat urine?? I suppose you could use vegetable oil in your car engine -- it is oil afterall -- but is it the best tool for the job? Not really... Just my __________________ Need Beads? Need Five Finger Bags? 2 of 3 Requirements for use of the CA Rolodex: 100 posts/ 60 day membership/ participation in trade (trader rating). New members can be added at any time.

09-26-2010, 03:27 PM	#19
lunneyz Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Help me with my humidor! Good thread waffle. I am leaving a cup of distilled water in my humidor now and looking into getting a digital hygrometer. In the meantime I will recharge my humidifier (I don't think I put enough distilled water in it) and try to recalibrate my analog hygrometer. I want to make sure my box is good and ready for those cigars.