atlanticcigar.com- what its mean?

gbum · 09-26-2011, 02:14 AM

come across these grade in their page

what is HMF/HLF means?

grade HLF
http://www.atlanticcigar.com/All-Cig...al-Torpedo.asp
http://www.atlanticcigar.com/All-Cig...-Churchill.asp
http://www.atlanticcigar.com/All-Cig...ojo-Refill.asp

grade HMF
http://www.atlanticcigar.com/All-Cig...-Churchill.asp

thanks ya

Don Fernando · 09-26-2011, 03:03 AM

I'll do an educated guess (but it's still a guess)

Habano medium filler
Habano long filler

Tio Gato · 09-26-2011, 04:49 AM

I think that means "handmade long filler" and "handmade medium filler".
I'm guessing that because the grade listed on the Muniemaker brand is MSF and those cigars are machine made short filler.

Don Fernando · 09-26-2011, 04:58 AM

Jeff might be right here. I was guessing about the H part and Handmade seems more logical than my guess.

Emjaysmash · 09-26-2011, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tio Gato

I think that means "handmade long filler" and "handmade medium filler".
I'm guessing that because the grade listed on the Muniemaker brand is MSF and those cigars are machine made short filler.

gbum · 09-26-2011, 05:49 AM

hurm.. make sense..
great,thanks guys

Emjaysmash · 09-26-2011, 05:51 AM

That's actually really cool they provide that info. I can't say I've seen another place that does that.

taltos · 09-26-2011, 06:32 AM

Possibly "medium filler" is actually "mixed filler". Otherwise I totally agree with the definitions.

Emjaysmash · 09-26-2011, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by taltos

Possibly "medium filler" is actually "mixed filler". Otherwise I totally agree with the definitions.

I had always thought that there was no medium filler? Thats a good catch.

dave · 09-26-2011, 09:07 AM

Thanks, guys. I hadn't noticed that before.
By the way, anyone have first-hand impressions of whether V.I.P. is a good value?
I've been giving them more and more business and been tempted, but there is just too little info about what the deals will be for me to drop $50 somewhat blind.

Tio Gato · 09-27-2011, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emjaysmash

I had always thought that there was no medium filler? Thats a good catch.

Mixed and Short filler are basically the same, small pieces of leaf including stem pieces.
Medium filler is a term used by some manufacturers to describe short filler without the stem bits. Often these are trimmings from premium tobacco leftover from the manufacturing process. Private Stock Medium Filler is a cigar from Tabadom that uses trimmings from much more expensive cigars made in the same factory. According to them anyway.

Fuente Curly Heads are discribed as medium filler leftover from their premium production.

The Poet · 09-27-2011, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Emjaysmash

That's actually really cool they provide that info. I can't say I've seen another place that does that.

Ehhhh, maybe not in that particular way. But many catalogs, hard or virtual, have descriptions stating, e.g., "Handmade in Hondouras", and also advise you if they are mixed filler, such as with AF Curly Tails. Also, the Machine Made smokes are normally listed seperately.

Furthermore, note that "handmade" has various meanings too. One completely handmade is selected, bunched, bound, and wrapped by hand. Yet it is "legal" to machine-bunch the tobacco and merely finish it by hand, and still call it "made by hand".

NCRadioMan · 09-27-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tio Gato

Mixed and Short filler are basically the same,

Mixed filler is a combo of long and short filler and short is, well, just short fill so they are nowhere near the same.

neoflex · 09-27-2011, 06:37 PM

I don't know what it means but those Spanish Galleons are great smokes.

09-26-2011, 02:14 AM	#1
gbum Feeling at Home Join Date: Jul 2009 First Name: Asyraf Location: Cyberjaya-Malaysia Posts: 772 Trading: (0)	atlanticcigar.com- what its mean? come across these grade in their page what is HMF/HLF means? grade HLF http://www.atlanticcigar.com/All-Cig...al-Torpedo.asp http://www.atlanticcigar.com/All-Cig...-Churchill.asp http://www.atlanticcigar.com/All-Cig...ojo-Refill.asp grade HMF http://www.atlanticcigar.com/All-Cig...-Churchill.asp thanks ya __________________ http://mrgbum.wordpress.com

09-26-2011, 03:03 AM	#2
Don Fernando Postwhore Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ferdinand Location: Singapore Posts: 10,064 Trading: (29)	Re: atlanticcigar.com- what its mean? I'll do an educated guess (but it's still a guess) Habano medium filler Habano long filler __________________ check out my reviews on my blog.

09-26-2011, 04:49 AM	#3
Tio Gato Uncle Kitty Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jeff Location: Casa Grande, AZ Posts: 2,075 Trading: (11)	Re: atlanticcigar.com- what its mean? I think that means "handmade long filler" and "handmade medium filler". I'm guessing that because the grade listed on the Muniemaker brand is MSF and those cigars are machine made short filler. __________________ "You stink like cigars Uncle Kitty!" Said my Boo age 3. "Kid, take care of your family and the hell with anyone else" My Grandpa Bubba.

09-26-2011, 04:58 AM	#4
Don Fernando Postwhore Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ferdinand Location: Singapore Posts: 10,064 Trading: (29)	Re: atlanticcigar.com- what its mean? Jeff might be right here. I was guessing about the H part and Handmade seems more logical than my guess. __________________ check out my reviews on my blog.

09-26-2011, 05:49 AM	#6
gbum Feeling at Home Join Date: Jul 2009 First Name: Asyraf Location: Cyberjaya-Malaysia Posts: 772 Trading: (0)	Re: atlanticcigar.com- what its mean? hurm.. make sense.. great,thanks guys __________________ http://mrgbum.wordpress.com

09-26-2011, 05:51 AM	#7
Emjaysmash The Hebrew Hammer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: M.J. Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 7,025 Trading: (76)	Re: atlanticcigar.com- what its mean? That's actually really cool they provide that info. I can't say I've seen another place that does that. __________________

09-26-2011, 06:32 AM	#8
taltos Really, really old Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Paul Location: Saugus, MA Posts: 2,486 Trading: (3)	Re: atlanticcigar.com- what its mean? Possibly "medium filler" is actually "mixed filler". Otherwise I totally agree with the definitions. __________________ Jimmy, some of its magic, some of its tragic, but I had a good life all the way. He Went to Paris, J. Buffett

09-26-2011, 09:07 AM	#10
dave Have My Own Room Join Date: May 2011 First Name: Dave Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,180 Trading: (15)	Re: atlanticcigar.com- what its mean? Thanks, guys. I hadn't noticed that before. By the way, anyone have first-hand impressions of whether V.I.P. is a good value? I've been giving them more and more business and been tempted, but there is just too little info about what the deals will be for me to drop $50 somewhat blind.

09-27-2011, 06:37 PM	#14
neoflex I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: John Location: Monroe, NC Posts: 2,765 Trading: (32)	Re: atlanticcigar.com- what its mean? I don't know what it means but those Spanish Galleons are great smokes. __________________