Colts to Release Peyton Manning - Page 2

shilala · 03-07-2012, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07

The Colts had 28 million reasons to let him go. I truly believe this was ALL about the all mighty dollar.

Dollars had a lot to do with it, Mac. The Colts absolutely suck. They need the money to rebuild.
They have to weigh the opportunity to build with Luck and put a team around him against a few years with Peyton and no team around him. The latter has worked for a lot of years, but Peyton was in good shape. Now he's a big gamble at best.
I think we'll find that Peyton doesn't have a problem with this move. He's done anything he can to protect that organization from his failing health, up to and including rewriting his contract so that the Colts didn't have to pay him the last 8 million they paid him while he was broke down.
I truly believe Peyton and Jim Irsay made this decision together,m and that Peyton will be a part of the Colts organization for a long, long time once he's done with this "play for another team" thing. I don't think it's going to go well, either. Peyton is way too screwed up.
Ultimately he's going to be a lot more valuable for his head than he is for his body if he can avoid ending up in a wheelchair.

jonumberone · 03-07-2012, 08:01 AM

I don't think Peyton will play for a cold weather team.
Being a dome QB for his career and with his neck injury, it just makes sense.
If he does play for a cold weather team, it will be for the Skins. Why?
For the $, of course.
And who is foolish enough to overpay for a 36yr old, injured QB?
Dan Snyder!
I'm willing to bet he's had an erection since he found out Peyton was being released!

Stephen · 03-07-2012, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty81

Oh I'm sure it was. Too bad they couldn't have signed him back for at least a year or two year to play/coach luck. I don't see payton taking the backseat to anyone though no matter how bad he plays.

He was under contract. The problem was that he was due a $28 million roster bonus (tomorrow I think). He had already said that he was not renegotiating his contract.

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Originally Posted by smitty81

I truley think if he dosn't start some where, He will just retire. He will make a damn fine QB coach for someone though.

If (and that's still a big if) he can pass a physical and show that he can competently throw the football, he won't have any trouble finding a starting gig.

Stephen · 03-07-2012, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jonumberone

I don't think Peyton will play for a cold weather team.
Being a dome QB for his career and with his neck injury, it just makes sense.
If he does play for a cold weather team, it will be for the Skins. Why?
For the $, of course.
And who is foolish enough to overpay for a 36yr old, injured QB?
Dan Snyder!
I'm willing to bet he's had an erection since he found out Peyton was being released!

I see the Redskins making a move for RGIII.

smitty81 · 03-07-2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by shilala

I'm with Stephen on all points. The writing was on the wall for this one. I think the Colts have a long struggle ahead without Peyton in the organization, but that's another thread.
I understand Miami is in the mix according to the Miami Herald and the billboards they've posted around town. There's two websites devoted to trying to bring Peyton to Miami.
I just do not see him there, regardless of the fit. Flynn makes a lot more sense for a lot less money.
I think Arizona makes the most sense, and if I was betting, that's where my money would be. It gets Peyton out of the cold and into a place that's done this sort of thing before with Kurt Warner. They know how to make it all work.
I have no idea where any of these teams are financially, or if any of them can come at Peyton with anywhere near 28 million, but we'll see. I'd like to take a look at the cap room for each team and see what other constructive ways they can defer money to make the best possible guess, but from a guy who's got a backful of metal, I can positively say that that high pressure desert is gonna feel good on Peyton's multiple surgeries. That environment is going to be a huge sell for an old, cobbed up man.

The thing is though, He is a risk and he knows it. I think he will take a lot less to play than what the Colts were paying him healthy. I think he will take the money because he wants to play and he knows that no one is going to fork out that kind of cash on a QB that just went through what he did. Hell, no one has seen him actually even play yet.

03-07-2012, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty81

Oh I'm sure it was. Too bad they couldn't have signed him back for at least a year or two year to play/coach luck. I don't see payton taking the backseat to anyone though no matter how bad he plays.

I truley think if he dosn't start some where, He will just retire. He will make a damn fine QB coach for someone though.

What makes you think Peyton Manning can coach so well for?

smitty81 · 03-07-2012, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

What makes you think Peyton Manning can coach so well for?

Anyone that has been around that long, knows the game and his position that well should be able to teach a few things to the new guys.

I know that not everyone can coach just because they can play well but I truely believe that he would be a great QB coach.

He has such a great understanding of the game and such.

Stephen · 03-07-2012, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty81

Anyone that has been around that long, knows the game and his position that well should be able to teach a few things to the new guys.

I know that not everyone can coach just because they can play well but I truely believe that he would be a great coach.

He has such a great understanding of the game and such.

Actually, rare is the superstar player that makes a good coach in ANY sport.

shilala · 03-07-2012, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Actually, rare is the superstar player that makes a good coach in ANY sport.

Peyton's understanding of defenses and offense, and his ability to see things and call the perfect play time and again does give him an edge. The way he leads his team, another edge.
His personality, another edge.
I agree with you, but I've long thought that if a guy can make the transition, he's one that can. I think he'd make a better fit as a head coach than an offensive or quarterback coach. Quarterback coach being the least likely.
He's got enough experience in running a good part of that club, and his close ties with ownership and upper management really give him a leg up if anyone has one.
I have no idea if it's something he even wants to do, it's just a sneaking suspicion. I can see him in that role, I guess. I'd far rather see him in the booth. This season. But that's just cause I'm selfish.

Stephen · 03-07-2012, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by shilala

Peyton's understanding of defenses and offense, and his ability to see things and call the perfect play time and again does give him an edge. The way he leads his team, another edge.
His personality, another edge.
I agree with you, but I've long thought that if a guy can make the transition, he's one that can. I think he'd make a better fit as a head coach than an offensive or quarterback coach. Quarterback coach being the least likely.
He's got enough experience in running a good part of that club, and his close ties with ownership and upper management really give him a leg up if anyone has one.
I have no idea if it's something he even wants to do, it's just a sneaking suspicion. I can see him in that role, I guess. I'd far rather see him in the booth. This season. But that's just cause I'm selfish.

Samurai Mike says hi. Also, I think it'd get incredibly old incredibly fast of him blaming everyone else for when things go wrong (although admittedly he'd gotten better at this the past couple of seasons).

03-07-2012, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty81

Anyone that has been around that long, knows the game and his position that well should be able to teach a few things to the new guys.

I know that not everyone can coach just because they can play well but I truely believe that he would be a great QB coach.

He has such a great understanding of the game and such.

In my opinion, Peyton just comes off with a large ego. Hard to blame him with his talents. But I don't see him being a good coach. He just doesn't seem humble enough or down to earth.

smitty81 · 03-07-2012, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

In my opinion, Peyton just comes off with a large ego. Hard to blame him with his talents. But I don't see him being a good coach. He just doesn't seem humble enough or down to earth.

What does that matter as long as you know your crap and can teach it.

03-07-2012, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty81

What does that matter as long as you know your crap and can teach it.

Part of teaching it is having people listen. I've seen very knowledgable people make horrible teachers because no one will listen to them due to personality issues.

03-07-2012, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty81

What does that matter as long as you know your crap and can teach it.

You don't think that kind of stuff matters in coaching? Being a humble person and not letting your damn ego get in the way plays a big role in coaching. Understanding your players and relating to them on their level is important in coaching, no?

smitty81 · 03-07-2012, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

You don't think that kind of stuff matters in coaching? Being a humble person and not letting your damn ego get in the way plays a big role in coaching. Understanding your players and relating to them on their level is important in coaching, no?

yes, it is a part of coaching.

There is a handful of GREAT coaches that also have a high ego and are hard to play for..........seems they are doing great.

03-07-2012, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty81

What does that matter as long as you know your crap and can teach it.

So it does matter then

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Originally Posted by smitty81

yes, it is a part of coaching.

There is a handful of GREAT coaches that also have a high ego and are hard to play for..........seems they are doing great.

chippewastud79 · 03-07-2012, 09:22 AM

Most great coaches weren't good players, and even more of them never played at the highest level. I don't forsee Peyton with a headset on, he is more likely to end up in a front office than on the sideline.

mosesbotbol · 03-07-2012, 09:25 AM

He should go where ever Randy Moss lands.

Neuromancer · 03-07-2012, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by E.J.

I'm pretty interested to see if he can go to Minny or Miami and make some noise...

Really wish Denver could make something work to bring him in....

MIAMI!!!

Fingers-crossed...

IndyRob · 03-07-2012, 09:36 AM

It will be a different town without him, that is for sure. We're going to miss Peyton Manning on and off the field. He did a lot for Indianapolis, but at the end of the day... We have to think about our team's future, and freeing up that amount of money can really bring in some fresh new talent.

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jonumberone Raw Dog Join Date: Jun 2010 First Name: Dom Location: Exit 8A Posts: 6,475 Trading: (62)	Re: Colts to Release Peyton Manning I don't think Peyton will play for a cold weather team. Being a dome QB for his career and with his neck injury, it just makes sense. If he does play for a cold weather team, it will be for the Skins. Why? For the $, of course. And who is foolish enough to overpay for a 36yr old, injured QB? Dan Snyder! I'm willing to bet he's had an erection since he found out Peyton was being released! __________________ Sex junkie looking for a dealer

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chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: Colts to Release Peyton Manning Most great coaches weren't good players, and even more of them never played at the highest level. I don't forsee Peyton with a headset on, he is more likely to end up in a front office than on the sideline. __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.

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03-07-2012, 09:36 AM	#40
IndyRob Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 136 Trading: (4)	Re: Colts to Release Peyton Manning It will be a different town without him, that is for sure. We're going to miss Peyton Manning on and off the field. He did a lot for Indianapolis, but at the end of the day... We have to think about our team's future, and freeing up that amount of money can really bring in some fresh new talent.