Liga Privada Undercrown robusto

Don Fernando · 10-23-2011, 12:00 AM

The Undercrown, there are many stories about the creation of this cigar but the one that I hear most is that the rollers at the Drew Estate factory tweaked the Liga Privada with a new wrapper so that they could smoke a great cigar after they weren't allowed to smoke the Liga Privada anymore because of the limited available wrapper. I like the story and I was very curious about the cigar as I am a big Liga Privada fan. I got this cigar at the Intertabac trade show from Jonathan Drew as they aren't available in Europe yet. The Undercrown robusto will make a European debut on the Dutch Big Smoke on october 30th.

This 5x54 robusto is wrapped in cellophane and will get a € 6,50 price tag for The Netherlands. The band looks like a signet ring and the wrapper is dark and mild oily with just a few small veins. The construction feels good and the predraw tastes like sweet tobacco with some peanuts. The cigar smells like a barnyard with some added sweetness.

I taste a spicy and mild peppery earth flavor with some coffee and a mild sweetness. Soon I taste spicy earth with herbs and some pepper on the background. After half an inch I taste wood with herbs, the pepper is almost completely gone, the sweetness is completely gone and there is a mild freshness in the flavors. After three quarters of an inch I taste herbs with a mild fresh aftertaste. There is some wood on the background. After an inch the flavors are herbs which are getting more spicy and I taste pepper too. There is a peppery but fresh aftertaste.

Halfway I taste some sweetness with the herbs and the pepper. The freshness in the aftertaste is getting more pronounced. Soon after I taste a beautiful and well balanced mixture of cedar, pepper, herbs and some sweetness with a fresh and peppery aftertaste. After two thirds the cigar gets a bit more spicy. The flavors are now herbs with pepper, the aftertaste is still fresh and peppery. I also taste some sweetness and a toasted flavor.

This cigar lasted me for ninety minutes. The draw is great and I got a lot of thick smoke. The burn is beautiful and straight. The light colored ash is firm. This cigar is full flavored and medium to full bodied.

Would I buy this cigar again? Oh yeah!

Appearance: 9 / 10
Construction: 8 / 10
Draw: 8 / 10
Burn: 8 / 10
Smoke & ash: 8 / 10
Aroma first part: 8 / 10
Aroma second part: 8 / 10
Aroma third part: 8 / 10

kelmac07 · 10-23-2011, 01:21 AM

Was waiting to hear what you thought of these Ferdie.

Don Fernando · 10-23-2011, 02:39 AM

I love it, love the belicoso too. Still have to smoke the 660

deadrise · 10-23-2011, 02:45 AM

loved the review sounds like a great stick

10-23-2011, 03:13 AM

Thanks for the review; me and a few brothers are planning to split a box so I will be getting my hands on a few soon. Can't wait to try this one.

HollywoodQue · 10-23-2011, 06:40 AM

I just bought a 5ve of the belicoso, looking forward to smoking one while watching the Lions game today....thanks for the review.....Go Lions

Blak Smyth · 10-23-2011, 08:32 AM

I smoked one last night and really found a lot of coffee notes in it. I didn't find much pepper at all, I was kind of surprised while reading your review. It was 50 degrees out so maybe I wasn't able to focus clearly. Thanks for the review I will have to try another one. I really did enjoy the Robusto.

MurphysLaw · 10-23-2011, 08:43 AM

Great review Ferdie, I loved the robusto I had this weekend, I'll be looking to score a box once the budget allows

Remo · 10-23-2011, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07

Was waiting to hear what you thought of these Ferdie.

Me too

irratebass · 10-23-2011, 09:37 AM

Thanks for the review Ferdie. I'm hoping my B&M are carrying these.

gator_79 · 10-23-2011, 02:41 PM

Nice review. I'm looking forward to smoking one of these. I have 3 of the beli's.

Ogre · 10-23-2011, 02:53 PM

Thanks for the review. Need to give one a try!!

big a · 10-23-2011, 02:53 PM

Great review, I can't wait to pick up some of these.

MedicCook · 10-23-2011, 02:55 PM

Thanks for the review Ferdie.

boom · 10-23-2011, 07:18 PM

Thanks Ferdie. Now I gotta get me some.

scottdurand · 10-23-2011, 10:49 PM

Great review, I smoked a Robusto and a Toro. I will say that after having been a LP No 9 fan for quite some time I am sold with Undercrown. The robusto reminded me of my No 9 robusto's and hopefully will be a little easier to find and the price is a plus!

Coach Deg · 10-24-2011, 03:54 AM

Thanks for the review. Picked up a few that are resting for Epic!

RatherUneek · 10-24-2011, 06:47 AM

I had a lot of burn issues with this stick unfortunately. The flavors were really great though. I got a lot of sweetness out of it. Bought one yesterday at a local B&M and was told they were still kind of "wet", something about being rushed and shipping early. I plan on letting this one rest for a while. Thanks for the review!

WittyUserName · 10-24-2011, 06:58 AM

Awesome review!! This inspired me to buy a box of Gran Toros this weekend. Cannot wait for them to get here.

10-24-2011, 07:16 AM

I had one of these yesterday. The review seems spot on. Mine was kinda wet as well.

I have to say, this one snuck up on me, and I felt a little...OK, a LOT light headed afterwards and could barely keep down lunch.

Great cigar, just make sure you don't have it on an empty stomach!

10-23-2011, 12:00 AM	#1
Don Fernando Postwhore Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ferdinand Location: Singapore Posts: 10,064 Trading: (29)	Liga Privada Undercrown robusto The Undercrown, there are many stories about the creation of this cigar but the one that I hear most is that the rollers at the Drew Estate factory tweaked the Liga Privada with a new wrapper so that they could smoke a great cigar after they weren't allowed to smoke the Liga Privada anymore because of the limited available wrapper. I like the story and I was very curious about the cigar as I am a big Liga Privada fan. I got this cigar at the Intertabac trade show from Jonathan Drew as they aren't available in Europe yet. The Undercrown robusto will make a European debut on the Dutch Big Smoke on october 30th. This 5x54 robusto is wrapped in cellophane and will get a € 6,50 price tag for The Netherlands. The band looks like a signet ring and the wrapper is dark and mild oily with just a few small veins. The construction feels good and the predraw tastes like sweet tobacco with some peanuts. The cigar smells like a barnyard with some added sweetness. I taste a spicy and mild peppery earth flavor with some coffee and a mild sweetness. Soon I taste spicy earth with herbs and some pepper on the background. After half an inch I taste wood with herbs, the pepper is almost completely gone, the sweetness is completely gone and there is a mild freshness in the flavors. After three quarters of an inch I taste herbs with a mild fresh aftertaste. There is some wood on the background. After an inch the flavors are herbs which are getting more spicy and I taste pepper too. There is a peppery but fresh aftertaste. Halfway I taste some sweetness with the herbs and the pepper. The freshness in the aftertaste is getting more pronounced. Soon after I taste a beautiful and well balanced mixture of cedar, pepper, herbs and some sweetness with a fresh and peppery aftertaste. After two thirds the cigar gets a bit more spicy. The flavors are now herbs with pepper, the aftertaste is still fresh and peppery. I also taste some sweetness and a toasted flavor. This cigar lasted me for ninety minutes. The draw is great and I got a lot of thick smoke. The burn is beautiful and straight. The light colored ash is firm. This cigar is full flavored and medium to full bodied. Would I buy this cigar again? Oh yeah! Appearance: 9 / 10 Construction: 8 / 10 Draw: 8 / 10 Burn: 8 / 10 Smoke & ash: 8 / 10 Aroma first part: 8 / 10 Aroma second part: 8 / 10 Aroma third part: 8 / 10 __________________ check out my reviews on my blog.

10-23-2011, 01:21 AM	#2
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: Liga Privada Undercrown robusto Was waiting to hear what you thought of these Ferdie. __________________ Dom in the MLB thread "I could probably get you to wear a Yankee hat for a Maduro!"

10-23-2011, 02:39 AM	#3
Don Fernando Postwhore Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ferdinand Location: Singapore Posts: 10,064 Trading: (29)	Re: Liga Privada Undercrown robusto I love it, love the belicoso too. Still have to smoke the 660 __________________ check out my reviews on my blog.

10-23-2011, 02:45 AM	#4
deadrise The Manhattan Project Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Jason Location: Reedville Virginia Posts: 1,001 Trading: (24)	Re: Liga Privada Undercrown robusto loved the review sounds like a great stick __________________

10-23-2011, 03:13 AM	#5
LigaPrivadaT84 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Liga Privada Undercrown robusto Thanks for the review; me and a few brothers are planning to split a box so I will be getting my hands on a few soon. Can't wait to try this one.

10-23-2011, 06:40 AM	#6
HollywoodQue Invictus Join Date: Oct 2010 First Name: Howard Location: In the "D" Posts: 3,119 Trading: (46)	Re: Liga Privada Undercrown robusto I just bought a 5ve of the belicoso, looking forward to smoking one while watching the Lions game today....thanks for the review.....Go Lions

10-23-2011, 08:32 AM	#7
Blak Smyth Think Blue! Join Date: Jun 2011 First Name: SD Location: THE WOOD Posts: 8,486 Trading: (52)	Re: Liga Privada Undercrown robusto I smoked one last night and really found a lot of coffee notes in it. I didn't find much pepper at all, I was kind of surprised while reading your review. It was 50 degrees out so maybe I wasn't able to focus clearly. Thanks for the review I will have to try another one. I really did enjoy the Robusto. __________________ SUPPORT OUR TROOPS

10-23-2011, 08:43 AM	#8
MurphysLaw Anything can go wrong Join Date: Dec 2010 First Name: Brian Location: SoFlo Posts: 2,823 Trading: (19)	Re: Liga Privada Undercrown robusto Great review Ferdie, I loved the robusto I had this weekend, I'll be looking to score a box once the budget allows __________________ It's THIS easy to help our Troops.

10-23-2011, 09:37 AM	#10
irratebass EMPEROR TOMPKINS Join Date: Aug 2011 First Name: Mickey Location: Mooresville, Indiana Posts: 8,313 Trading: (48)	Re: Liga Privada Undercrown robusto Thanks for the review Ferdie. I'm hoping my B&M are carrying these. __________________

10-23-2011, 02:41 PM	#11
gator_79 Still Watching My Back Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Robin Location: Orange Park, FL Posts: 184 Trading: (3)	Re: Liga Privada Undercrown robusto Nice review. I'm looking forward to smoking one of these. I have 3 of the beli's.

10-23-2011, 02:53 PM	#12
Ogre **CENSORED** Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Larry Location: Central Florida Posts: 12,068 Trading: (46)	Re: Liga Privada Undercrown robusto Thanks for the review. Need to give one a try!! __________________

10-23-2011, 02:53 PM	#13
big a Feeling at Home Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: Ohio Posts: 910 Trading: (42)	Re: Liga Privada Undercrown robusto Great review, I can't wait to pick up some of these. __________________ "If heaven has no cigars, I shall not go there" -Mark Twain

10-23-2011, 02:55 PM	#14
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: Liga Privada Undercrown robusto Thanks for the review Ferdie. __________________ 27 World Series Championship's "If your wife doesn't like the aroma of your cigar, change your wife.", Zino Davidoff

10-23-2011, 07:18 PM	#15
boom Central Cali Cigar Crew Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Troy Location: Cen Cal Posts: 1,659 Trading: (107)	Re: Liga Privada Undercrown robusto Thanks Ferdie. Now I gotta get me some.

10-23-2011, 10:49 PM	#16
scottdurand Still Watching My Back Join Date: Dec 2010 First Name: Scott Location: Lafayette, La (Cajun country) Posts: 59 Trading: (0)	Re: Liga Privada Undercrown robusto Great review, I smoked a Robusto and a Toro. I will say that after having been a LP No 9 fan for quite some time I am sold with Undercrown. The robusto reminded me of my No 9 robusto's and hopefully will be a little easier to find and the price is a plus!

10-24-2011, 03:54 AM	#17
Coach Deg C O W eieio. Join Date: May 2009 First Name: Mike Location: Hudson, FL Posts: 2,853 Trading: (59)	Re: Liga Privada Undercrown robusto Thanks for the review. Picked up a few that are resting for Epic!

10-24-2011, 06:47 AM	#18
RatherUneek Still Watching My Back Join Date: Nov 2010 First Name: Rich Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 69 Trading: (2)	Re: Liga Privada Undercrown robusto I had a lot of burn issues with this stick unfortunately. The flavors were really great though. I got a lot of sweetness out of it. Bought one yesterday at a local B&M and was told they were still kind of "wet", something about being rushed and shipping early. I plan on letting this one rest for a while. Thanks for the review!

10-24-2011, 06:58 AM	#19
WittyUserName WOOOHOOO Join Date: Aug 2011 First Name: Adam Location: Virginia Posts: 1,455 Trading: (15)	Re: Liga Privada Undercrown robusto Awesome review!! This inspired me to buy a box of Gran Toros this weekend. Cannot wait for them to get here. __________________ Check out the TROOP support Forums It is THIS easy to Support the troops

10-24-2011, 07:16 AM	#20
Lonely Raven Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Liga Privada Undercrown robusto I had one of these yesterday. The review seems spot on. Mine was kinda wet as well. I have to say, this one snuck up on me, and I felt a little...OK, a LOT light headed afterwards and could barely keep down lunch. Great cigar, just make sure you don't have it on an empty stomach!