PSA for Driving in Illinois.......

coach · 05-08-2012, 12:48 PM

For those who LIVE or will be TRAVELING TO/THROUGH ILLINOIS......

a friendly msg for those LIVING or TRAVELING TO/THROUGH IL

Illinois will begin using photo radar in freeway work zones starting in July.

Beginning in July the State of Illinois will use speed cameras in areas designated as 'Work Zones' on major freeways. Anyone caught by these devices will be mailed a $375.00 ticket for the FIRST offense, but the SECOND offense will cost $ 1000.00 and comes with a 90-Day suspension.

Drivers will also receive demerit points against their license , which allows insurance companies to raise their rates.

This represents the harshest penalty structure yet for a city or s tate using PHOTO enforcements. The State will begin with FIVE camera vans issuing tickets in work zones with speed limits lowered to 45 MPH.

Photographs of both the Driver's face and License plate are taken.

Pass this on to everyone you know.

For more info: http://www.dot.state.il.us/press/r062409.html

Ogre · 05-08-2012, 12:54 PM

Another way to make a buck!!! I understand the need to slow down in a construction zone, but thats just over the top.

OLS · 05-08-2012, 12:57 PM

As someone who has gotten 2 Photo tickets, I agree, Larry.

cjhalbrooks · 05-08-2012, 12:58 PM

wow thanks man i drive through there all the time.

never_enough · 05-08-2012, 01:04 PM

Damn, thats expensive

mhailey · 05-08-2012, 01:06 PM

How is mailing you a ticket proper service. I have received one photo radar ticket (going 32 in a 30 i kid you not), and threw away the ticket. It was mailed to me and not properly served. They sent a follow up saying that if i did not pay they would be forced to serve me (NO KIDDING) and i would be hit with the service fees. They never served me, and the ticket was trashed.

Are the police personally serving all of the people caught on photo radar? Does the enabling statute allow service by regular mail???

mhailey · 05-08-2012, 01:12 PM

Okay, so the ticket is mailed to you by certified mail. don't pick up your certified mail.

http://www.dot.il.gov/workzone/photo%20Enforcement.pdf

cjhalbrooks · 05-08-2012, 01:13 PM

good tip, can i return it to sender???

elderboy02 · 05-08-2012, 01:33 PM

Another reason for me to not visit IL

cmitch · 05-08-2012, 01:55 PM

I'll stay out as well. It just means that they could now throw up a couple of 'Men Working' Signs every time a mower or weed eater is present and set up a ticket writing scheme. Sounds crazy BUT I was an unsuspecting victim of such a scam in Tennessee in 1990 where I was issued a parking ticket for 95.00 and a TOW FEE of 60.00. The Tennessee Trooper and the towing company had themselves quite a scam going until the General Sessions Judge shut it down. Didn't help me any. I paid it prior to the judgement but my letter to the state AG probably didn't hurt.

kydsid · 05-08-2012, 01:58 PM

Points on a photo ticket? That is the first I have heard of that in the US. From my understanding the picture of the face will be required for the points part.

I guess the next time in Illinois I need to pull a Jeremy Clarkson and wear a Bill Oddie mask.

deaster25 · 05-08-2012, 02:07 PM

The only time I ever visit Illinois is to go to East St Louis.

68TriShield · 05-08-2012, 02:08 PM

As someone that has had three employees hit by cars,if you get caught,tough crap.

Slow the hell down,they are fixing the road for you.

markem · 05-08-2012, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68TriShield

As someone that has had three employees hit by cars,if you get caught,tough crap.

Slow the hell down,they are fixing the road for you.

When I was still teaching motorcycle safety classes, many of the other instructors were police officers. One did accident reconstruction. He told me once that one of the most dangerous places to be in Oregon is out of a car in a work zone. He particularly mentioned truck drivers who were hopped on meth and doing 80 or so, but also mentioned car drivers who would plow in to the back of a work truck (after 1-2 miles of warnings) and then claim that they didn't know that construction was going on.

If you obey the laws in construction zones, then I don't see the problem. I doubt that this is the only speeding offense in Il that results in points.

cjhalbrooks · 05-08-2012, 02:24 PM

Boys lets be nice

pnoon · 05-08-2012, 02:29 PM

Didn't get the memo you were anointed a moderator.

Everyone IS being nice. If you have an issue with someone's post or the direction a thread is heading, please bring it to the attention of the TOE.

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cjhalbrooks · 05-08-2012, 02:36 PM

no memo needed i dont want that weight on my name.

Bill86 · 05-08-2012, 02:45 PM

My problem is the signs should read "when workers present". I don't want a ticket when they aren't even working out there and it's night time. I also think camera tickets aren't exactly fair, however sometimes they are hard to argue

You can even watch it online, my brother went through a red light (half ass stopped) and they had him doing it up on a website. Wasn't much to argue.

I have no problem slowing down for construction workers, hell I even move over lanes, but I don't like the idea of cameras at all. Just put a cop car there. EVERYONE notices the flashing red and blue lights. Hell the car could be abandon, still everyone sees it.

cjhalbrooks · 05-08-2012, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill86

Just put a cop car there. EVERYONE notices the flashing red and blue lights. Hell the car could be abandon, still everyone sees it.

I have seen this in VA. It worked it wasn't till i passed the same area the next day during the day time that i was there wasnt a cop. But think of this what about smaller police stations that may not have a extra car to do this. and man power is always thin.

TJarv · 05-08-2012, 02:50 PM

My line of work requires me to be in a work zone every now and then , and I have to say I'm glad they are doing this.

Now it is a little extreme and maybe a lazy way of doing it.

I like when we have a officer parked in our workzones because you see a very dramatic change in the speed and attitude of drivers.

The photos are a little much, why not just have a cruiser set up there?

Just my

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Ogre **CENSORED** Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Larry Location: Central Florida Posts: 12,068 Trading: (46)	Re: PSA for Driving in Illinois....... Another way to make a buck!!! I understand the need to slow down in a construction zone, but thats just over the top. __________________

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OLS Suck It Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brad Location: TN Posts: 7,912 Trading: (19)	Re: PSA for Driving in Illinois....... As someone who has gotten 2 Photo tickets, I agree, Larry.

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never_enough Never Satisfied Join Date: Oct 2011 First Name: Robert Location: MA Posts: 650 Trading: (6)	Re: PSA for Driving in Illinois....... Damn, thats expensive

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mhailey Splitter of Hairs Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Matt Location: out west Posts: 492 Trading: (21)	Re: PSA for Driving in Illinois....... How is mailing you a ticket proper service. I have received one photo radar ticket (going 32 in a 30 i kid you not), and threw away the ticket. It was mailed to me and not properly served. They sent a follow up saying that if i did not pay they would be forced to serve me (NO KIDDING) and i would be hit with the service fees. They never served me, and the ticket was trashed. Are the police personally serving all of the people caught on photo radar? Does the enabling statute allow service by regular mail??? __________________ Never try and teach a pig to sing. It frustrates you and irritates the pig.

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mhailey Splitter of Hairs Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Matt Location: out west Posts: 492 Trading: (21)	Re: PSA for Driving in Illinois....... Okay, so the ticket is mailed to you by certified mail. don't pick up your certified mail. http://www.dot.il.gov/workzone/photo%20Enforcement.pdf __________________ Never try and teach a pig to sing. It frustrates you and irritates the pig.

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cjhalbrooks I am behind you. SHHHHH Join Date: Dec 2011 First Name: Cory Location: Under a Bridge, trying to find the troll who stole my soul. Posts: 1,370 Trading: (20)	Re: PSA for Driving in Illinois....... good tip, can i return it to sender??? __________________ GMCGTPWHAF Tennessee Chapter. Down with the bloody BIG HEAD

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cjhalbrooks I am behind you. SHHHHH Join Date: Dec 2011 First Name: Cory Location: Under a Bridge, trying to find the troll who stole my soul. Posts: 1,370 Trading: (20)	Re: PSA for Driving in Illinois....... no memo needed i dont want that weight on my name. __________________ GMCGTPWHAF Tennessee Chapter. Down with the bloody BIG HEAD

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Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: PSA for Driving in Illinois....... My problem is the signs should read "when workers present". I don't want a ticket when they aren't even working out there and it's night time. I also think camera tickets aren't exactly fair, however sometimes they are hard to argue You can even watch it online, my brother went through a red light (half ass stopped) and they had him doing it up on a website. Wasn't much to argue. I have no problem slowing down for construction workers, hell I even move over lanes, but I don't like the idea of cameras at all. Just put a cop car there. EVERYONE notices the flashing red and blue lights. Hell the car could be abandon, still everyone sees it. __________________ I'm drunk......but I'll get drunker! - Doug Stanhope

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TJarv In it to win it Join Date: Mar 2012 First Name: Tony Location: Aubrey, Texas Posts: 2,027 Trading: (58)	Re: PSA for Driving in Illinois....... My line of work requires me to be in a work zone every now and then , and I have to say I'm glad they are doing this. Now it is a little extreme and maybe a lazy way of doing it. I like when we have a officer parked in our workzones because you see a very dramatic change in the speed and attitude of drivers. The photos are a little much, why not just have a cruiser set up there? Just my