Large cabinet sealing help..I really need it.

e-man67 · 09-21-2010, 10:43 AM

So I bought a used LARGE cigar cabinet and there are gaps all over the thing. Between the doors and the cabinet all the brown foam seal has pretty much fallen away and I need to replace it. Question 1, what type of sealer do I use? I know Home Depot sells the double sided sticky white stuff..is that going to do it? The cabinet also has two large glass in wood doors that you can remove the glass with the turn of 2 locks on each side..I am going to seal these in place with a sealer..Question 2, is their a special type of sealer/chalk that I should use? (i.e. aquarium sealer?). I would also like to seal all the seems inside the cabinet where the wood meets wood. Question 3, should I use wood glue for this or sealer/chalk? I will get the photos up tonight..it is 7 ft 10 inches from corner to corner so I have to cut it down a few inches because my ceilings are only 7ft 8 inches tall! Any and all help greatly appreciated!

pektel · 09-21-2010, 10:51 AM

I'd check for some type of sealant that has low odor, and no off-gassing. I bet some of those solvents would surely affect the cigar's flavour. Maybe ask waxingmoon? I bet he'd have an excellent answer for you.

muhren · 09-21-2010, 11:09 AM

Some may argue with my thinking...in fact I expect it, BUT I would just try seasoning it first and see how it holds. I also just bought a cabinet and the glass seemed a little "loose" to me. Doors could us a little tightening (which I did) but the seal isn't completely air tight. That being said, it holds humidity at 67% like a ROCK without any sealant applied. I have a couple pounds of beads in the thing too...just as an FYI.

My understanding has always been that slight air flow is expected. You just can't have enough that it ruins the humidity level.

M

SvilleKid · 09-21-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by muhren

Some may argue with my thinking...in fact I expect it, BUT I would just try seasoning it first and see how it holds. I also just bought a cabinet and the glass seemed a little "loose" to me. Doors could us a little tightening (which I did) but the seal isn't completely air tight. That being said, it holds humidity at 67% like a ROCK without any sealant applied. I have a couple pounds of beads in the thing too...just as an FYI.

My understanding has always been that slight air flow is expected. You just can't have enough that it ruins the humidity level.

M

This approach has merit especially as it applies to wood on wood seams/joints. If the cabinet hasn't been up to humidity levels for a while, simply seasoning it will result in wood swell that may seal many of your problems. As far as the door gaps where gaskets/foam is now gone, home improvement stores sell a wide variety of self-stick foam and rubber strips that should work. And, you should be able to do a "sniff test" on the material before you buy it to see if it is odor free. silicon caulk probable most pliable for the glass, but I've never had any silicon caulk that didn't stink! Don't know if aquarium silicon is any different.

dwoodward · 09-21-2010, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SvilleKid

Don't know if aquarium silicon is any different.

It does. Stinks just like regular silicon, but its not as bad.

e-man67 · 09-21-2010, 01:54 PM

Should I just user wood glue for the seams?

GreekGodX · 09-21-2010, 02:09 PM

I have no expertise in this and would probably be the last person you'd want to do anything handy with but I felt I needed to contribute in some way..

Let me know if you need some help smoking some cigars, Eric. I'll bring the Bourbon

waffle · 09-21-2010, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GreekGodX

I have no expertise in this and would probably be the last person you'd want to do anything handy with but I felt I needed to contribute in some way..

Let me know if you need some help smoking some cigars, Eric. I'll bring the Bourbon

If you need help, let me know... I'm not extremely handy, but I'm good at taking direction.

e-man67 · 09-21-2010, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GreekGodX

I have no expertise in this and would probably be the last person you'd want to do anything handy with but I felt I needed to contribute in some way..

Let me know if you need some help smoking some cigars, Eric. I'll bring the Bourbon

You are always welcome Christos! Pics tonight!

09-21-2010, 03:54 PM

Following this thread for advice on sealing a walk-in humi door.

elderboy02 · 09-21-2010, 06:55 PM

I took these pictures for Eric. He asked me to post them:

waffle · 09-21-2010, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02

I took these pictures for Eric. He asked me to post them:

e-man's also about 6' 5" or so... just to gauge the height of that...

e-man67 · 09-22-2010, 06:28 AM

I am actually 6'3 but you can see how big this thing is!

GreekGodX · 09-22-2010, 06:34 AM

Very nice brother

Can't wait to come down and see it full!

muhren · 09-22-2010, 07:10 AM

Nice pick-up!

e-man67 · 09-22-2010, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by muhren

Nice pick-up!

So is yours! I like the color of yours better!

HK3- · 09-22-2010, 08:44 AM

First off, nice humi!

If you have small cracks, seams, etc.. that need to be sealed up I would just go ahead and seal them with the clear silicone/aquarium caulk. Do it while you still have it outside to it can air out and dry quickly. The smell wont stick around forever but you definately don't want your stogies picking up that awful odor.

For the doors and moving parts I would try to use some type of weather stripping. Like the others mentioned, some breathing is ok to have but obviously you don't want your humidity fluctuating up and down.

Make sure you get some circulating fans for that beast!

ninjavanish · 09-22-2010, 09:29 AM

I have dealt with a bunch of these types of humidors over the years. Even in super arid climates like Tucson, AZ the gaps between the door and the body of the humidor often make little difference that cannot be corrected by simply adding a few more humidification devices. Obviously an active humidifier such as an oasis would be a must for a humidor this size... however the addition of beads and/or passive humidifiers to the roof/"basement" of the humidor are usually more than enough to overcome the amount of "leakage" you may have. And not to mention the cigars themselves will do quite a bit to regulate the humidity. Of course the old rule is humidors run their best when they are at least half full certainly still applies here.

elderboy02 · 09-22-2010, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ninjavanish

...Of course the old rule is humidors run their best when they are at least half full certainly still applies here.

Ha ha Eric! You are going to have to buy more cigars. The 4 boxes you have now aren't going to cut it!

09-22-2010, 09:45 AM

i think you need help sealing your lips

09-21-2010, 10:43 AM	#1
e-man67 Big Drunkin Monkey!! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Eric Posts: 1,480 Trading: (29)	Large cabinet sealing help..I really need it. So I bought a used LARGE cigar cabinet and there are gaps all over the thing. Between the doors and the cabinet all the brown foam seal has pretty much fallen away and I need to replace it. Question 1, what type of sealer do I use? I know Home Depot sells the double sided sticky white stuff..is that going to do it? The cabinet also has two large glass in wood doors that you can remove the glass with the turn of 2 locks on each side..I am going to seal these in place with a sealer..Question 2, is their a special type of sealer/chalk that I should use? (i.e. aquarium sealer?). I would also like to seal all the seems inside the cabinet where the wood meets wood. Question 3, should I use wood glue for this or sealer/chalk? I will get the photos up tonight..it is 7 ft 10 inches from corner to corner so I have to cut it down a few inches because my ceilings are only 7ft 8 inches tall! Any and all help greatly appreciated! __________________ Big hairy Ape chuggin whiskey by the barrel full..making ladies cry!

09-21-2010, 10:51 AM	#2
pektel I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Peter Location: Grand Rapids, MN Posts: 4,320 Trading: (28)	Re: Large cabinet sealing help..I really need it. I'd check for some type of sealant that has low odor, and no off-gassing. I bet some of those solvents would surely affect the cigar's flavour. Maybe ask waxingmoon? I bet he'd have an excellent answer for you. __________________ The problem is not the problem. The problem is your ATTITUDE about the problem.

09-21-2010, 11:09 AM	#3
muhren The Cigar Artist Join Date: Sep 2009 First Name: Mike Location: Ohio Posts: 1,268 Trading: (43)	Re: Large cabinet sealing help..I really need it. Some may argue with my thinking...in fact I expect it, BUT I would just try seasoning it first and see how it holds. I also just bought a cabinet and the glass seemed a little "loose" to me. Doors could us a little tightening (which I did) but the seal isn't completely air tight. That being said, it holds humidity at 67% like a ROCK without any sealant applied. I have a couple pounds of beads in the thing too...just as an FYI. My understanding has always been that slight air flow is expected. You just can't have enough that it ruins the humidity level. M __________________ Cigar Art available for sale: www.mikeuhren.com

09-21-2010, 01:54 PM	#6
e-man67 Big Drunkin Monkey!! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Eric Posts: 1,480 Trading: (29)	Re: Large cabinet sealing help..I really need it. Should I just user wood glue for the seams? __________________ Big hairy Ape chuggin whiskey by the barrel full..making ladies cry!

09-21-2010, 02:09 PM	#7
GreekGodX Opa!! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Christos Location: 7 Line Posts: 4,893 Trading: (82)	Re: Large cabinet sealing help..I really need it. I have no expertise in this and would probably be the last person you'd want to do anything handy with but I felt I needed to contribute in some way.. Let me know if you need some help smoking some cigars, Eric. I'll bring the Bourbon __________________ "If I give a businessman 10,000 francs, what is that to him, he is rich. But if I give him a Cohiba cigar, that is style."-Hotel Rwanda

09-21-2010, 03:54 PM	#10
audio1der Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Large cabinet sealing help..I really need it. Following this thread for advice on sealing a walk-in humi door.

09-21-2010, 06:55 PM	#11
elderboy02 Lets Go Buckeyes! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 12,497 Trading: (133)	Re: Large cabinet sealing help..I really need it. I took these pictures for Eric. He asked me to post them:

09-22-2010, 06:28 AM	#13
e-man67 Big Drunkin Monkey!! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Eric Posts: 1,480 Trading: (29)	Re: Large cabinet sealing help..I really need it. I am actually 6'3 but you can see how big this thing is! __________________ Big hairy Ape chuggin whiskey by the barrel full..making ladies cry!

09-22-2010, 06:34 AM	#14
GreekGodX Opa!! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Christos Location: 7 Line Posts: 4,893 Trading: (82)	Re: Large cabinet sealing help..I really need it. Very nice brother Can't wait to come down and see it full! __________________ "If I give a businessman 10,000 francs, what is that to him, he is rich. But if I give him a Cohiba cigar, that is style."-Hotel Rwanda

09-22-2010, 07:10 AM	#15
muhren The Cigar Artist Join Date: Sep 2009 First Name: Mike Location: Ohio Posts: 1,268 Trading: (43)	Re: Large cabinet sealing help..I really need it. Nice pick-up! __________________ Cigar Art available for sale: www.mikeuhren.com

09-22-2010, 08:44 AM	#17
HK3- Cashmere Jungle Lord Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Boffa Location: The town so nice they named it twice Posts: 5,035 Trading: (48)	Re: Large cabinet sealing help..I really need it. First off, nice humi! If you have small cracks, seams, etc.. that need to be sealed up I would just go ahead and seal them with the clear silicone/aquarium caulk. Do it while you still have it outside to it can air out and dry quickly. The smell wont stick around forever but you definately don't want your stogies picking up that awful odor. For the doors and moving parts I would try to use some type of weather stripping. Like the others mentioned, some breathing is ok to have but obviously you don't want your humidity fluctuating up and down. Make sure you get some circulating fans for that beast!

09-22-2010, 09:29 AM	#18
ninjavanish Feeling at Home Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Trust me, your humi isn't big enough. Posts: 507 Trading: (16)	Re: Large cabinet sealing help..I really need it. I have dealt with a bunch of these types of humidors over the years. Even in super arid climates like Tucson, AZ the gaps between the door and the body of the humidor often make little difference that cannot be corrected by simply adding a few more humidification devices. Obviously an active humidifier such as an oasis would be a must for a humidor this size... however the addition of beads and/or passive humidifiers to the roof/"basement" of the humidor are usually more than enough to overcome the amount of "leakage" you may have. And not to mention the cigars themselves will do quite a bit to regulate the humidity. Of course the old rule is humidors run their best when they are at least half full certainly still applies here.

09-22-2010, 09:45 AM	#20
Red Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Large cabinet sealing help..I really need it. i think you need help sealing your lips