People underestimate you because of your Age?

BHalbrooks · 12-16-2011, 11:14 PM

I'm not sure how to word it. I'm 22, been smoking for about 1.5 years, give or take. At work today a guy was wearing a CAO New Era hat, and I was like, "That's a nice hat Man." He just looked at me and said, "It's a Cigar son..."
I said, "I know, I like their Italia, and their Brazilia. Their America is really nice too, but not worth the price." After saying that, his demeanor changed.

I get that a lot though. I'll go into a Cigar Store, and people tell me where the Hookah **** is, because I'm young. How ignorant.

Is this just me?

Savor the Stick · 12-16-2011, 11:24 PM

No...it's just the way people are. They see someone and immediately make a snap judgement of what and who they are....Judging a book by it's cover, is a common way to explain it.

It will happen a lot. just shine it on.

BHalbrooks · 12-16-2011, 11:28 PM

Yea when they point to the Hookah's I just kinda look where they're pointing, smile, and ask where the Cigars are.

Oh well

icehog3 · 12-16-2011, 11:33 PM

Imagine being old like me, and they point out the bong section.

AmsterDan · 12-17-2011, 12:31 AM

That sounds ignorant to me. Store clerks should give every customer, regardless of age, an equal service and take genuine interest in what the customer is looking for. If you are somewhat of a professional you know that since the customer will return this way. If you are not feeling comfortable because of the clerk's attitude, you might want to try another tobacconist where you are taken seriously from the get go, first time walking into the store.

My experience, first time walking into City Cigars in Vancouver as a beginner, was excellent. They greeted me and gave me a short introduction to their store outlay as they haven't seen me there before. Then they asked whether I would fancy a cup of coffee or thee while I was looking. They helped me choosing cigars and respected my choice of price point ... not very high back then because of my experience level, but they understood and supported that. Also, did they ask whether I had a humidor already. When I said yes, obviously not from their store, they handed me their humidor seasoning and maintenance/trouble shooting guide and told me they give all their humidor purchasing customers one. When I was about to leave, they included a cute little cigar journal to keep track of cigars I had smoked and whether I liked them, for future purchases. On request, they can keep a database for you for quick referencing next time you are in their store.

I left the store satisfied, with lots of useful information, a hand full of cigars, a journal and a humidor guide to set me up properly. This shows me that the owner and merchants care. They want to keep you as a customer. No pushing, no assumptions ... just genuine care for you and consequently their business.

This is just to show how your experience can be ... I would consider checking out another store.

Zanaspus · 12-17-2011, 05:55 AM

A view from someone who spent a decade in retail sales.

Once you've been in the trade for a few years, you can peg most anyone who walks into the store. My guess is that for each 22 YO cigar smoker, there are 99 22 year old Hookah smokers.

Is it "right?" No. But I understand where the retailer is coming from. He enjoys cigars and sells hookah stuff to the youngsters because it is a necessary evil of staying in business. Underneath, he is annoyed at the very thought of selling it because he would love to talk cigars all day.

Trust me. Once you get to know him, you will be one of his favorite customers because he knows you "break the rules." I will go so far as to say he'll treat you like a king.

688sonarmen · 12-17-2011, 05:57 AM

It will happen

When I first got into cigars I was told by some douchnozzle that I had to be 18 to buy cigars (I was 22 as well) before I even paid or was carded. I politely showed my ID and said "here you go Ahole and put these cigars back". I never went back to that B&M.

massphatness · 12-17-2011, 06:06 AM

Someday you will look back and wish people still thought of as the young buck and not the old creepy guy ogling the college co-eds.

That's what Moe always tells me.

qwerty1500 · 12-17-2011, 06:41 AM

Just wait until they start asking you if you qualify for the senior discount.

Commander Quan · 12-17-2011, 07:01 AM

Generally people don't respect "kids your age" unless you give them a reason to. Having a "respect me" attitude is not going to give them that reason. Tactfully letting them know that you're not full of crap is a good way to earn that respect. I think you handled the guy well.

The same goes for the cigar shops. Frequent them a couple of times, talk to the guys that work there, and pretty soon you'll be accepted.

maninblack · 12-17-2011, 07:04 AM

I sometimes still get this from people, even though I'm 34 and have been smoking cigars since I was 18. Thats ok though, because once I start talking cigars and they realize I'm more knowledgeable than they are, they shut up quickly or I gain their respect.

SNKBYT · 12-17-2011, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3

Imagine being old like me, and they point out the bong section.

you too!

Emjaysmash · 12-17-2011, 08:57 AM

Happens to the best of us

Taki · 12-17-2011, 08:57 AM

Being that young it will definitely happen...never really experienced yet being that I am 30 but every now and then when I walk into a shop I get the look from some of the older gentlemen that are sitting around but its very few and far between. Let it roll off your shoulders brother...you clearly know your Cigars and thats all that matters and if you need help thats what CA is for

kelmac07 · 12-17-2011, 08:59 AM

That place wouldn't get my hard earned money. Plenty of other places to spend your cigar fundage.

Taki · 12-17-2011, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07

That place wouldn't get my hard earned money. Plenty of other places to spend your cigar fundage.

Enough Said

Skywalker · 12-17-2011, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by massphatness

Someday you will look back and wish people still thought of as the young buck and not the old creepy guy ogling the college co-eds.

I was thinking the same thing!!!

Taki · 12-17-2011, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skywalker

I was thinking the same thing!!!

Apoco · 12-17-2011, 09:30 AM

I'm 23 and look 16 - so I'm in the same boat. Hell - I get carded for R-Rated movies.

Just

it off. I encounter it in more places than just a cigar shop. And after going to the cigar shop 3 times I stopped encountering it there. It is one of those problems that there isn't a solution for, I'm afraid.

CigarGuy88 · 12-17-2011, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3

Imagine being old like me, and they point out the bong section.

They clearly already know you Tom

12-16-2011, 11:14 PM	#1
BHalbrooks Have My Own Room Join Date: Nov 2011 First Name: B Location: Texas Posts: 1,122 Trading: (5)	People underestimate you because of your Age? I'm not sure how to word it. I'm 22, been smoking for about 1.5 years, give or take. At work today a guy was wearing a CAO New Era hat, and I was like, "That's a nice hat Man." He just looked at me and said, "It's a Cigar son..." I said, "I know, I like their Italia, and their Brazilia. Their America is really nice too, but not worth the price." After saying that, his demeanor changed. I get that a lot though. I'll go into a Cigar Store, and people tell me where the Hookah **** is, because I'm young. How ignorant. Is this just me?

12-16-2011, 11:24 PM	#2
Savor the Stick ~Loves the Lord~ Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Kevin, or just K Location: Wichita Falls, Texas Posts: 1,945 Trading: (67)	Re: People underestimate you because of your Age? No...it's just the way people are. They see someone and immediately make a snap judgement of what and who they are....Judging a book by it's cover, is a common way to explain it. It will happen a lot. just shine it on. __________________ Pastor K Please Support the Troops

12-16-2011, 11:28 PM	#3
BHalbrooks Have My Own Room Join Date: Nov 2011 First Name: B Location: Texas Posts: 1,122 Trading: (5)	Re: People underestimate you because of your Age? Yea when they point to the Hookah's I just kinda look where they're pointing, smile, and ask where the Cigars are. Oh well

12-16-2011, 11:33 PM	#4
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 70,584 Trading: (60)	Re: People underestimate you because of your Age? Imagine being old like me, and they point out the bong section. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

12-17-2011, 12:31 AM	#5
AmsterDan Ischn't dat Wiert?! Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 42 Trading: (0)	Re: People underestimate you because of your Age? That sounds ignorant to me. Store clerks should give every customer, regardless of age, an equal service and take genuine interest in what the customer is looking for. If you are somewhat of a professional you know that since the customer will return this way. If you are not feeling comfortable because of the clerk's attitude, you might want to try another tobacconist where you are taken seriously from the get go, first time walking into the store. My experience, first time walking into City Cigars in Vancouver as a beginner, was excellent. They greeted me and gave me a short introduction to their store outlay as they haven't seen me there before. Then they asked whether I would fancy a cup of coffee or thee while I was looking. They helped me choosing cigars and respected my choice of price point ... not very high back then because of my experience level, but they understood and supported that. Also, did they ask whether I had a humidor already. When I said yes, obviously not from their store, they handed me their humidor seasoning and maintenance/trouble shooting guide and told me they give all their humidor purchasing customers one. When I was about to leave, they included a cute little cigar journal to keep track of cigars I had smoked and whether I liked them, for future purchases. On request, they can keep a database for you for quick referencing next time you are in their store. I left the store satisfied, with lots of useful information, a hand full of cigars, a journal and a humidor guide to set me up properly. This shows me that the owner and merchants care. They want to keep you as a customer. No pushing, no assumptions ... just genuine care for you and consequently their business. This is just to show how your experience can be ... I would consider checking out another store. __________________ Cheers, Daniel Last edited by AmsterDan; 12-17-2011 at 12:36 AM. Reason: Clarifying

12-17-2011, 05:55 AM	#6
Zanaspus Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Aug 2009 First Name: Tony Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 492 Trading: (3)	Re: People underestimate you because of your Age? A view from someone who spent a decade in retail sales. Once you've been in the trade for a few years, you can peg most anyone who walks into the store. My guess is that for each 22 YO cigar smoker, there are 99 22 year old Hookah smokers. Is it "right?" No. But I understand where the retailer is coming from. He enjoys cigars and sells hookah stuff to the youngsters because it is a necessary evil of staying in business. Underneath, he is annoyed at the very thought of selling it because he would love to talk cigars all day. Trust me. Once you get to know him, you will be one of his favorite customers because he knows you "break the rules." I will go so far as to say he'll treat you like a king. __________________ If you're gonna be a lamb, you might as well be a sheep.

12-17-2011, 05:57 AM	#7
688sonarmen Shipmate! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Jake Location: Norwich, Ct Posts: 2,698 Trading: (17)	Re: People underestimate you because of your Age? It will happen When I first got into cigars I was told by some douchnozzle that I had to be 18 to buy cigars (I was 22 as well) before I even paid or was carded. I politely showed my ID and said "here you go Ahole and put these cigars back". I never went back to that B&M.

12-17-2011, 06:06 AM	#8
massphatness Where's my buffaloooo ... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Vin Location: MassHolia Posts: 12,688 Trading: (206)	Re: People underestimate you because of your Age? Someday you will look back and wish people still thought of as the young buck and not the old creepy guy ogling the college co-eds. That's what Moe always tells me. __________________ *Help Support The Navy SEAL Foundation: HERE*

12-17-2011, 06:41 AM	#9
qwerty1500 Good thing I'm normal Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: One Particular Harbor Posts: 607 Trading: (0)	Re: People underestimate you because of your Age? Just wait until they start asking you if you qualify for the senior discount.

12-17-2011, 07:01 AM	#10
Commander Quan Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Derrick Location: Canton, OH Posts: 966 Trading: (4)	Re: People underestimate you because of your Age? Generally people don't respect "kids your age" unless you give them a reason to. Having a "respect me" attitude is not going to give them that reason. Tactfully letting them know that you're not full of crap is a good way to earn that respect. I think you handled the guy well. The same goes for the cigar shops. Frequent them a couple of times, talk to the guys that work there, and pretty soon you'll be accepted.

12-17-2011, 07:04 AM	#11
maninblack Will smoke for food Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Kevin Location: Where the hoot owls f$ck the chickens Posts: 10,637 Trading: (80)	Re: People underestimate you because of your Age? I sometimes still get this from people, even though I'm 34 and have been smoking cigars since I was 18. Thats ok though, because once I start talking cigars and they realize I'm more knowledgeable than they are, they shut up quickly or I gain their respect. __________________ Proud member of the GMCGTPWHAFA

12-17-2011, 08:57 AM	#13
Emjaysmash The Hebrew Hammer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: M.J. Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 7,025 Trading: (76)	Re: People underestimate you because of your Age? Happens to the best of us __________________

12-17-2011, 08:57 AM	#14
Taki Welcome to the Layer Cake Join Date: Aug 2011 First Name: Taki Location: The Creek Posts: 2,271 Trading: (38)	Re: People underestimate you because of your Age? Being that young it will definitely happen...never really experienced yet being that I am 30 but every now and then when I walk into a shop I get the look from some of the older gentlemen that are sitting around but its very few and far between. Let it roll off your shoulders brother...you clearly know your Cigars and thats all that matters and if you need help thats what CA is for __________________

12-17-2011, 08:59 AM	#15
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: People underestimate you because of your Age? That place wouldn't get my hard earned money. Plenty of other places to spend your cigar fundage. __________________ Dom in the MLB thread "I could probably get you to wear a Yankee hat for a Maduro!"

12-17-2011, 09:30 AM	#19
Apoco Nerd with social skills Join Date: May 2010 First Name: Alex Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 1,286 Trading: (37)	Re: People underestimate you because of your Age? I'm 23 and look 16 - so I'm in the same boat. Hell - I get carded for R-Rated movies. Just it off. I encounter it in more places than just a cigar shop. And after going to the cigar shop 3 times I stopped encountering it there. It is one of those problems that there isn't a solution for, I'm afraid.