Shedding some light on split Tatuaje wrappers

688sonarmen · 10-30-2010, 12:09 PM

I found this while searching for some info on cigars. Can anyone add to what is being stated in the article? I might go out and buy a small desktop to try this out and see.

http://www.cigarenvy.com/cigar-revie...abinet-tainos/

Bill86 · 10-30-2010, 12:32 PM

My humidor is quite close to 60 I've personally never had any bursting wrapper tats. I'll light up my face tomorrow and see about that one.

MiamiE · 10-30-2010, 12:35 PM

Never had a busted wrapper either. I keep my humidor at around 63%.

quantim0 · 10-30-2010, 12:36 PM

Mines at 65% with no issues to report.

688sonarmen · 10-30-2010, 12:37 PM

I keep mine at 65% but recently switched from 2 coolidors to a cabinet humidor. The only Tatuaje that has split on me was the face but, it saw humidity as high as 70% for about a day so I'm letting them sit for at least another week at 65%. Do you have any cigars that don't do well at 60%?

pektel · 10-30-2010, 12:37 PM

Mine is around 60-63%. Perfect for me.

NorcalMark · 10-30-2010, 12:38 PM

I have smoked my fair share of tatuaje, cabaiguan, la riqueza and I have had maybe 3 busted wrappers.

One I dropped, the others were smoked with to much humidity.

688sonarmen · 10-30-2010, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorcalMark

I have smoked my fair share of tatuaje, cabaiguan, la riqueza and I have had maybe 3 busted wrappers.

One I dropped, the others were smoked with to much humidity.

How much was to much humidity and was it Criollo/Corojo blend? I really want to see if this rings true to some of the bad press some of these get by being passed off as thin wrappers/poor construction. And see of different cigars and or wrappers smoke better at different RH.

NorcalMark · 10-30-2010, 02:31 PM

For me anything over 65% humidity is way to high for anything that tatuaje makes. These were stored with 69% Boveda bags.

Remember, cigars dry from the outside to inside. The thickest tobacco is in the filler and when you fire that freshie or high humidity tatuaje up, it's gonna create a bit of moisture inside the cigar. Store them on the drier side and you shouldn't have issues.

longknocker · 10-30-2010, 02:47 PM

I Agree With Lower Humidity On The Tats. I Prefer Most Of My Sticks @ 65-66, But Have Many Tat Wrappers Crack At That RH, Especially When I Smoke Outside In The Mobile, Al. Humidity Of 80% Most Days.

10-30-2010, 03:25 PM

I keep mine at 65%, but I always drybox Tats. Never had a problem that way.

Cheers,
G

nick2021 · 10-31-2010, 05:07 AM

Interesting to hear about the article, luckily I had my wife set my humi at 65-66% while away

Garbandz · 10-31-2010, 08:26 AM

Also consider the humidity of where you are smoking.If you are in a very dry environment,the wrapper can and will dry out and split.Usually in the winter here in the south, cameroon and similar thin wrappers will crack in just a few minutes outside.
It is not just Tats,they are well made smokes.........

longknocker · 10-31-2010, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garbandz

Also consider the humidity of where you are smoking.If you are in a very dry environment,the wrapper can and will dry out and split.Usually in the winter here in the south, cameroon and similar thin wrappers will crack in just a few minutes outside.
It is not just Tats,they are well made smokes.........

Happens To Me All The Time In Winter. My Sticks Aren't Used To 30% RH Outside. Good Point!

pinotguy · 10-31-2010, 09:27 AM

Thanks for the link. I'd seen this recommended in the past and not just for Tats. One of the first things that stands out to me is the article is several years old. I believe Pete has said that over the past two years or so, they have switched to a Habano cover leaf on the regular Brown Label line. This was done because they could not find a consistent source of Corojo that met their quality standards.

A lower RH may work best for cigars that have a large amount of Criollo/Corojo but what if you have other smokes in there as well? Right now, I only have Pepin products in my humidor but not all of them are Tats (or similarly blended smokes). After some experimentation, I've settled on 67% RH, which seems to be a happy medium, at least for me. Like others here, I also dry-box certain sticks prior to smoking them.

ProBe · 10-31-2010, 09:41 AM

I keep mines at 65%-67% work's great for me.

10-31-2010, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinotguy

...A lower RH may work best for cigars that have a large amount of Criollo/Corojo but what if you have other smokes in there as well? Right now, I only have Pepin products in my humidor but not all of them are Tats (or similarly blended smokes). After some experimentation, I've settled on 67% RH, which seems to be a happy medium, at least for me. Like others here, I also dry-box certain sticks prior to smoking them.

I have a mix of CC and NC, quite a few of which are Tats and other Pepins. Compromise is the name of the game for me, as I'm not interested in running multiple humis segregated by RH level. I keep everything at 65%, and drybox as needed. YMMV, as I don't like any cigars to go to 70%, if possible. Works for me on everything except Cameroon wrappers; they split in the dry air no matter what I do.

Cheers,
G

longknocker · 10-31-2010, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martel

I have a mix of CC and NC, quite a few of which are Tats and other Pepins. Compromise is the name of the game for me, as I'm not interested in running multiple humis segregated by RH level. I keep everything at 65%, and drybox as needed. YMMV, as I don't like any cigars to go to 70%, if possible. Works for me on everything except Cameroon wrappers; they split in the dry air no matter what I do.

Cheers,
G

I Still Don't Quite Understand "Drybox" After All These Years Of Smoking. How Long? Is It OK To Leave The Stick You Want To Smoke On The Counter @ 55%RH In The House? Anyone Care To Elaborate? Thanks!

Goldie · 10-31-2010, 11:04 AM

The wrapper on The Face I smoked last night split in two different places. My Vino runs between 63% and 65%.

longknocker · 10-31-2010, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldie

The wrapper on The Face I smoked last night split in two different places. My Vino runs between 63% and 65%.

What Was The RH Where You Smoked It?

10-30-2010, 12:09 PM	#1
688sonarmen Shipmate! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Jake Location: Norwich, Ct Posts: 2,698 Trading: (17)	Shedding some light on split Tatuaje wrappers I found this while searching for some info on cigars. Can anyone add to what is being stated in the article? I might go out and buy a small desktop to try this out and see. http://www.cigarenvy.com/cigar-revie...abinet-tainos/

10-30-2010, 12:32 PM	#2
Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: Shedding some light on split Tatuaje wrappers My humidor is quite close to 60 I've personally never had any bursting wrapper tats. I'll light up my face tomorrow and see about that one.

10-30-2010, 12:35 PM	#3
MiamiE I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Erick Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,892 Trading: (38)	Re: Shedding some light on split Tatuaje wrappers Never had a busted wrapper either. I keep my humidor at around 63%.

10-30-2010, 12:36 PM	#4
quantim0 Feeling at Home Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Andrew Location: Palm Bay, Fl Posts: 528 Trading: (20)	Re: Shedding some light on split Tatuaje wrappers Mines at 65% with no issues to report. __________________ All animals are equal, but some are more equal then others. -George Orwell

10-30-2010, 12:37 PM	#5
688sonarmen Shipmate! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Jake Location: Norwich, Ct Posts: 2,698 Trading: (17)	Re: Shedding some light on split Tatuaje wrappers I keep mine at 65% but recently switched from 2 coolidors to a cabinet humidor. The only Tatuaje that has split on me was the face but, it saw humidity as high as 70% for about a day so I'm letting them sit for at least another week at 65%. Do you have any cigars that don't do well at 60%?

10-30-2010, 12:37 PM	#6
pektel I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Peter Location: Grand Rapids, MN Posts: 4,320 Trading: (28)	Re: Shedding some light on split Tatuaje wrappers Mine is around 60-63%. Perfect for me. __________________ The problem is not the problem. The problem is your ATTITUDE about the problem.

10-30-2010, 12:38 PM	#7
NorcalMark Still Watching My Back Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 84 Trading: (5)	Re: Shedding some light on split Tatuaje wrappers I have smoked my fair share of tatuaje, cabaiguan, la riqueza and I have had maybe 3 busted wrappers. One I dropped, the others were smoked with to much humidity.

10-30-2010, 02:31 PM	#9
NorcalMark Still Watching My Back Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 84 Trading: (5)	Re: Shedding some light on split Tatuaje wrappers For me anything over 65% humidity is way to high for anything that tatuaje makes. These were stored with 69% Boveda bags. Remember, cigars dry from the outside to inside. The thickest tobacco is in the filler and when you fire that freshie or high humidity tatuaje up, it's gonna create a bit of moisture inside the cigar. Store them on the drier side and you shouldn't have issues.

10-30-2010, 02:47 PM	#10
longknocker Postwhore Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: Mobile, Alabama Posts: 11,114 Trading: (82)	Re: Shedding some light on split Tatuaje wrappers I Agree With Lower Humidity On The Tats. I Prefer Most Of My Sticks @ 65-66, But Have Many Tat Wrappers Crack At That RH, Especially When I Smoke Outside In The Mobile, Al. Humidity Of 80% Most Days.

10-30-2010, 03:25 PM	#11
Martel Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Shedding some light on split Tatuaje wrappers I keep mine at 65%, but I always drybox Tats. Never had a problem that way. Cheers, G

10-31-2010, 05:07 AM	#12
nick2021 Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 436 Trading: (17)	Re: Shedding some light on split Tatuaje wrappers Interesting to hear about the article, luckily I had my wife set my humi at 65-66% while away __________________ It's one thing to be stupid, it's dangerous for a stupid person to think he's smart!

10-31-2010, 08:26 AM	#13
Garbandz Feeling at Home Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Tom Posts: 775 Trading: (53)	Re: Shedding some light on split Tatuaje wrappers Also consider the humidity of where you are smoking.If you are in a very dry environment,the wrapper can and will dry out and split.Usually in the winter here in the south, cameroon and similar thin wrappers will crack in just a few minutes outside. It is not just Tats,they are well made smokes.........

10-31-2010, 09:27 AM	#15
pinotguy Still Watching My Back Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 200 Trading: (13)	Re: Shedding some light on split Tatuaje wrappers Thanks for the link. I'd seen this recommended in the past and not just for Tats. One of the first things that stands out to me is the article is several years old. I believe Pete has said that over the past two years or so, they have switched to a Habano cover leaf on the regular Brown Label line. This was done because they could not find a consistent source of Corojo that met their quality standards. A lower RH may work best for cigars that have a large amount of Criollo/Corojo but what if you have other smokes in there as well? Right now, I only have Pepin products in my humidor but not all of them are Tats (or similarly blended smokes). After some experimentation, I've settled on 67% RH, which seems to be a happy medium, at least for me. Like others here, I also dry-box certain sticks prior to smoking them.

10-31-2010, 09:41 AM	#16
ProBe Still Watching My Back Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Jose Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 140 Trading: (0)	Re: Shedding some light on split Tatuaje wrappers I keep mines at 65%-67% work's great for me. __________________ Love The Life You Live, Live The Life You Love. K Robbins

10-31-2010, 11:04 AM	#19
Goldie Bring the pain! Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Drew Location: Ohio Posts: 808 Trading: (13)	Re: Shedding some light on split Tatuaje wrappers The wrapper on The Face I smoked last night split in two different places. My Vino runs between 63% and 65%. __________________ Come in here dear boy, have a cigar, you're gonna go far - Pink Floyd I like my draw, like I like my women, a little loose - Goldie