Need help making a BIG decision. Please...

JE3146 · 11-02-2008, 01:43 PM

Backstory - I'm in college. I got delayed a year at school due to an advising screwup. (IE. I was missing 1 class going into Senior Design, and they wouldn't let me continue without that 1 class). So I'm doing 2 terms this year to complete that one class and basically finish up everything else except 3 senior classes and the 3 senior design classes, which I will do next year part time at 6 credit hours per term for 3 terms.

That leaves a gap during spring term of this year.

I belong to an Internship Program that grants students internships. They are 6 month internships. I have completed 1 of these internships, and we are allowed and required 2 total.

Option A: Take a 2nd Junior level internship to fill the gap this year. It would go from Spring 09 through Summer for 6 months. I would make ~ 17 to 20$ an hour and be guaranteed a job for 6 months. This will require getting approval through a formal meeting.

Option B: Decline the second Junior Internship. Finish the 2 terms this year. Finish the 3 terms next year. Graduate, then do a Senior Internship from Summer 2010 through Fall 2010. I would make ~20 to 24$ an hour and be guaranteed a job for 6 months, as well as possibly having the option to continue working there after the internship is over, as I'll be graduated and needing a job.

The dilemma: I'm getting married this coming summer. This was planned into the works before I got screwed by my advisor, so the delay was a serious setback. The income from Option A would be seriously beneficial to the wedding as it'd be happening before the wedding.

Another thing to consider is the gap between Spring 09 and Fall 09 will trigger me to have to pay loans back at about 150$ a month or so. This will happen regardless of which option I take. That's about 900$ of expenses.

Another dilemma is car payments/phone/insurance... That is until student loans kick back in in the fall.

All this can be paid with a decent paying job (~10$ an hour), but I would NEED a job or... well lets just say I'd need a job... and with the economy in it's current position makes me worried.

So... to recap.

2nd Junior Internship
Take the safe route. Earn less money, make payments, help pay for the wedding. Leaves myself open after graduation for any company I might meet during Senior year. But I'd have to get approval prior to taking this option.

1st Senior Internship
Take the risky route. Earn more money later that could be put towards a house. Earn better experience for resume material. Possibly have the option of it leading to a full time employment in a rough economy. Possibly less budget for the wedding or a smaller honeymoon.

Please offer some advice..... I see benefits and serious flaws with both options

EDIT TO ADD: I'm in Computer Engineering. Forgot to even add my major.

11-02-2008, 01:57 PM

You lost me somewhere with Option B. If the internship is. Required to graduate, how in option B do. you graduate, then do the internship? Or maybe I'm reading that wrong?

JE3146 · 11-02-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Resipsa

You lost me somewhere with Option B. If the internship is. Required to graduate, how in option B do. you graduate, then do the internship? Or maybe I'm reading that wrong?

It's not required to graduate. It's a program separate to my school program that I signed up for that runs parallel. I had to go through interviews to get in it... fill out applications... etc. It was a long drawn out experience, and out of like 500 applicants, only like 25 make it.

I signed a contract to fulfill the obligation though. I'm not really sure what they could do to enforce it really... but there really is no reason not to... I mean it's a job and makes good money.

lightning9191 · 11-02-2008, 02:05 PM

I picked option B because I like the possibility of a job offer after the internship in the current market. I don't see why this is referred to as the "risky option" though. What makes it risky?

JE3146 · 11-02-2008, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lightning9191

I picked option B because I like the possibility of a job offer after the internship in the current market. I don't see why this is referred to as the "risky option" though. What makes it risky?

If I can't secure a job this spring, I can't make payments.

There's no guarantee I'll find a job, whereas Option A is guaranteed pending approval of the meeting.

Thus... Option B is 'riskier'

I've been dwelling over this decision for 2 weeks and have to make up my mind by tomorrow. I tried to list every last detail, pro, & con I can think of.

elderboy02 · 11-02-2008, 02:10 PM

I say take the risky route. I too am in a computer field. Computer people are in high demand right now. If you were in a manufacturing field, I would take the safer route.

JE3146 · 11-02-2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02

I say take the risky route. I too am in a computer field. Computer people are in high demand right now. If you were in a manufacturing field, I would take the safer route.

The odds of me getting a job in my technical field this spring are slim to none as most companies in the pacific northwest that even offer internships belong to this program called MECOP (The program I'm in). Everything from Intel to Boeing.

And I'd be competing for an job with the 'interns' that would be just starting their Junior Internships. I know this from experience because every company I applied to a few years back for an Internship told me to go join the program. So I did, and I got a job lol.

So I'd most likely be reduced to some production line job or... something. The bonus is I wouldn't be fighting the high schoolers for summer work, as I'd be starting in Spring. So the odds of getting a job PERIOD are in my favor substantially.

shaggy · 11-02-2008, 02:18 PM

i would go with option b and scale back the wedding stuff if at all possible. tough times now may work to your favour later when you get a foot in on a full time job thro the internship

gettysburgfreak · 11-02-2008, 02:32 PM

I would take option B, the possibility that you will get hired after the internship is a big selling point. I did an internship which led to me coming back as a seasonal park ranger and that has possibly led to a full time position at the end of the year.

smitdavi · 11-02-2008, 03:10 PM

Can you defer your loans for 6 months or so...I know it was an option. Not sure if it still is, but I know that when my dad graduated he deferred payment for 6 months after he graduated.

JE3146 · 11-02-2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by smitdavi

Can you defer your loans for 6 months or so...I know it was an option. Not sure if it still is, but I know that when my dad graduated he deferred payment for 6 months after he graduated.

The 6 month period is still around, but I burned the 6 month grace period on my first internship.

SeanGAR · 11-02-2008, 04:21 PM

Seems to me a job is a huge priority given the economic situation so I'd pick the one that increases those odds. After you get married what will your wife be doing? Who is paying for the wedding/honeymoon?

PeteSB75 · 11-02-2008, 05:35 PM

Is there any way you can do both internships? I'd think that would be the preferable option. If not, take the Jr year internship and earn some green for cigars before the wedding. Look for a job after you finish, but also look at other internships as well, if the program does not support it. You might also find that the place you are interning at for the Jr year one wants you to come back, especially if you do a good job and let them know that you will be available in the not too distant future.

JE3146 · 11-02-2008, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanGAR

Seems to me a job is a huge priority given the economic situation so I'd pick the one that increases those odds. After you get married what will your wife be doing? Who is paying for the wedding/honeymoon?

She's currently has a Human Services degree (BS), and is currently working as a CNA as a temporary position until either she follows the hospital paid program (1 year course) to become an RN, or find a job in her career field (HR, Social Services, etc). So we have 1 income currently, which isn't 'half bad'. She's paying for a chunk of the wedding (mostly just part of the honeymoon), as well as with some of my savings. Then our parents are each chipping in some money for the ceremony/reception. It's not going to be an extravagant wedding by any means, but it's all we have to work with.

JE3146 · 11-02-2008, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteSB75

Is there any way you can do both internships? I'd think that would be the preferable option. If not, take the Jr year internship and earn some green for cigars before the wedding. Look for a job after you finish, but also look at other internships as well, if the program does not support it. You might also find that the place you are interning at for the Jr year one wants you to come back, especially if you do a good job and let them know that you will be available in the not too distant future.

To be honest, I'm going to the meeting with that plan of attack, but I wanted this decision made in case it's not an option. I've never heard of it being done, and I do not know if they'd accommodate it, but I had planned on trying regardless of my decision.

And I've tried to go back to the original one, but the problem is they budget for internships so far in advance that I'd of had to request this last year, back when I thought things were still 'as planned'

Mark C · 11-02-2008, 06:12 PM

I'd take the senior internship. Like everyone else said, it sets you up better for a long-term career. Right now that seems pretty important.

With regards to your payments, is there some way you can take part-time classes in the spring just to delay the payments? Maybe find something that would look good on your resume, or do what I did and take a wine tasting course.

JE3146 · 11-02-2008, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark C

I'd take the senior internship. Like everyone else said, it sets you up better for a long-term career. Right now that seems pretty important.

With regards to your payments, is there some way you can take part-time classes in the spring just to delay the payments? Maybe find something that would look good on your resume, or do what I did and take a wine tasting course.

The 150$ a month for loan payments are dwarfed by the car payments/insurance/CC payments/ phone bill.. etc.

Sadly the loan payments are the least of my worries. It's the rest that worry me. (Just to clarify)

chippewastud79 · 11-02-2008, 06:41 PM

Jordan, here is my

for what its worth. My brother did something similar to what your first option entails. At the end of the "internship" the company he worked for offered him a full-time position and offered to pay for his school if he continued to go part-time until he graduated. He decided to take the job and still works there while they pay for his school. Granted the salary he is/was making is not as much as he will make when he actually has the degree, but he makes enough for his house and bills with money left over. Not sure if that make anything any easier, but I figured I would throw that out there.

Sailchaser · 11-02-2008, 06:46 PM

The guidance that you need will come from with in, also I always write down all the pro and cons and make the decision from there . Best of luck with your chocies

Sailkat · 11-02-2008, 09:16 PM

I think I would opt for option A. A good way to gain some experience (and make some money) when you have a break. Who knows, with the lighter schedule you have when you return, they may be able to keep you on part time. If you do a good job, they may even offer to pay for you to finish school and keep you on.

I'm sure which ever direction you choose....you will do well. Make a choice and don't look back.

View Poll Results: Which option should I take?
Take the internship NOW (2nd Junior Internship)	16	59.26%
Go for the internship LATER (Senior Internship)	11	40.74%
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11-02-2008, 01:43 PM	#1
JE3146 Jordan #2 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jordan Location: Tigard, OR Posts: 2,115 Trading: (26)	Need help making a BIG decision. Please... Backstory - I'm in college. I got delayed a year at school due to an advising screwup. (IE. I was missing 1 class going into Senior Design, and they wouldn't let me continue without that 1 class). So I'm doing 2 terms this year to complete that one class and basically finish up everything else except 3 senior classes and the 3 senior design classes, which I will do next year part time at 6 credit hours per term for 3 terms. That leaves a gap during spring term of this year. I belong to an Internship Program that grants students internships. They are 6 month internships. I have completed 1 of these internships, and we are allowed and required 2 total. Option A: Take a 2nd Junior level internship to fill the gap this year. It would go from Spring 09 through Summer for 6 months. I would make ~ 17 to 20$ an hour and be guaranteed a job for 6 months. This will require getting approval through a formal meeting. Option B: Decline the second Junior Internship. Finish the 2 terms this year. Finish the 3 terms next year. Graduate, then do a Senior Internship from Summer 2010 through Fall 2010. I would make ~20 to 24$ an hour and be guaranteed a job for 6 months, as well as possibly having the option to continue working there after the internship is over, as I'll be graduated and needing a job. The dilemma: I'm getting married this coming summer. This was planned into the works before I got screwed by my advisor, so the delay was a serious setback. The income from Option A would be seriously beneficial to the wedding as it'd be happening before the wedding. Another thing to consider is the gap between Spring 09 and Fall 09 will trigger me to have to pay loans back at about 150$ a month or so. This will happen regardless of which option I take. That's about 900$ of expenses. Another dilemma is car payments/phone/insurance... That is until student loans kick back in in the fall. All this can be paid with a decent paying job (~10$ an hour), but I would NEED a job or... well lets just say I'd need a job... and with the economy in it's current position makes me worried. So... to recap. 2nd Junior Internship Take the safe route. Earn less money, make payments, help pay for the wedding. Leaves myself open after graduation for any company I might meet during Senior year. But I'd have to get approval prior to taking this option. 1st Senior Internship Take the risky route. Earn more money later that could be put towards a house. Earn better experience for resume material. Possibly have the option of it leading to a full time employment in a rough economy. Possibly less budget for the wedding or a smaller honeymoon. Please offer some advice..... I see benefits and serious flaws with both options EDIT TO ADD: I'm in Computer Engineering. Forgot to even add my major. Last edited by JE3146; 11-02-2008 at 01:50 PM.

11-02-2008, 01:57 PM	#2
Resipsa Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Need help making a BIG decision. Please... You lost me somewhere with Option B. If the internship is. Required to graduate, how in option B do. you graduate, then do the internship? Or maybe I'm reading that wrong?

11-02-2008, 02:05 PM	#4
lightning9191 I think I'm normal... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Kevin Posts: 1,007 Trading: (8)	Re: Need help making a BIG decision. Please... I picked option B because I like the possibility of a job offer after the internship in the current market. I don't see why this is referred to as the "risky option" though. What makes it risky? __________________ I eat gummy bears by tearing them limb from limb and eating their heads last.

11-02-2008, 02:10 PM	#6
elderboy02 Lets Go Buckeyes! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 12,496 Trading: (133)	Re: Need help making a BIG decision. Please... I say take the risky route. I too am in a computer field. Computer people are in high demand right now. If you were in a manufacturing field, I would take the safer route.

11-02-2008, 02:18 PM	#8
shaggy just pokin around..... Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 505 Trading: (4)	Re: Need help making a BIG decision. Please... i would go with option b and scale back the wedding stuff if at all possible. tough times now may work to your favour later when you get a foot in on a full time job thro the internship

11-02-2008, 02:32 PM	#9
gettysburgfreak Patriot Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Mitten Posts: 1,442 Trading: (2)	Re: Need help making a BIG decision. Please... I would take option B, the possibility that you will get hired after the internship is a big selling point. I did an internship which led to me coming back as a seasonal park ranger and that has possibly led to a full time position at the end of the year. __________________ Author ofeath, Disease, and Life at War: The Civil War Letters of Surgeon James D. Benton, 111th and 98th New York Infantry Regiments, 1862-1865.

11-02-2008, 03:10 PM	#10
smitdavi Ambassador of Quan Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: David Location: Bloomington, IN Posts: 1,434 Trading: (9)	Re: Need help making a BIG decision. Please... Can you defer your loans for 6 months or so...I know it was an option. Not sure if it still is, but I know that when my dad graduated he deferred payment for 6 months after he graduated.

11-02-2008, 04:21 PM	#12
SeanGAR Crotchety Geezer Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Radford VA Posts: 911 Trading: (3)	Re: Need help making a BIG decision. Please... Seems to me a job is a huge priority given the economic situation so I'd pick the one that increases those odds. After you get married what will your wife be doing? Who is paying for the wedding/honeymoon? __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?

11-02-2008, 05:35 PM	#13
PeteSB75 Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Pete Location: CT Posts: 1,674 Trading: (18)	Re: Need help making a BIG decision. Please... Is there any way you can do both internships? I'd think that would be the preferable option. If not, take the Jr year internship and earn some green for cigars before the wedding. Look for a job after you finish, but also look at other internships as well, if the program does not support it. You might also find that the place you are interning at for the Jr year one wants you to come back, especially if you do a good job and let them know that you will be available in the not too distant future. __________________ Formerly Malik23

11-02-2008, 06:12 PM	#16
Mark C Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SE PA Posts: 674 Trading: (4)	Re: Need help making a BIG decision. Please... I'd take the senior internship. Like everyone else said, it sets you up better for a long-term career. Right now that seems pretty important. With regards to your payments, is there some way you can take part-time classes in the spring just to delay the payments? Maybe find something that would look good on your resume, or do what I did and take a wine tasting course.

11-02-2008, 06:41 PM	#18
chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: Need help making a BIG decision. Please... Jordan, here is my for what its worth. My brother did something similar to what your first option entails. At the end of the "internship" the company he worked for offered him a full-time position and offered to pay for his school if he continued to go part-time until he graduated. He decided to take the job and still works there while they pay for his school. Granted the salary he is/was making is not as much as he will make when he actually has the degree, but he makes enough for his house and bills with money left over. Not sure if that make anything any easier, but I figured I would throw that out there. __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.

11-02-2008, 06:46 PM	#19
Sailchaser Black Ops-SOB Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Chris Location: SCS,MI(Somewere Cigar Smoking) Posts: 1,733 Trading: (7)	Re: Need help making a BIG decision. Please... The guidance that you need will come from with in, also I always write down all the pro and cons and make the decision from there . Best of luck with your chocies __________________ "Sail Fast, Shoot Straight, Fish Hard and Save Time For The Important Things In Life"

11-02-2008, 09:16 PM	#20
Sailkat Smooth sailing Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Kat Location: St. Clair Shores, MI Posts: 638 Trading: (5)	Re: Need help making a BIG decision. Please... I think I would opt for option A. A good way to gain some experience (and make some money) when you have a break. Who knows, with the lighter schedule you have when you return, they may be able to keep you on part time. If you do a good job, they may even offer to pay for you to finish school and keep you on. I'm sure which ever direction you choose....you will do well. Make a choice and don't look back.