Humidor issue with tempreature

jetsman2806 · 06-10-2013, 09:30 AM

hi everyone got a quick question as i have searched everywhere and dont seem to be finding an answer.

In the process of seasoning my new humidor its now day 7 following the procedure that was stated in the sticky above.

I have the hydrometer in the unit and everything is looking good so far as regards humidity as its around 76% but the temperature is in the mid 80's. I have tried moving the unit to different parts of the house but I cant seem to get the temp below 80. And from everything i read 80 and above is too hot to store them.

Can anyone think of a way I can get the temp down?

I am not worried about the humidity as i have beads on order and should bring the unit below the 75% once i get them in.

Any ideas?

363 · 06-10-2013, 10:00 AM

I had the same issue with temp issues and ended up buying a wine cooler and using that instead, allowing me to temp control my stash.

big_jaygee · 06-10-2013, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 363

I had the same issue with temp issues and ended up buying a wine cooler and using that instead, allowing me to temp control my stash.

i agree. the room my humidor was in would get too hot during the day so i finally said to hell with it and bought the wine cooler.

jetsman2806 · 06-10-2013, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 363

I had the same issue with temp issues and ended up buying a wine cooler and using that instead, allowing me to temp control my stash.

I am gonna try one more thing and put it in my closet and see if that helps drop the temp. but I took another hydrometer and left it out in the room where its currently located and that reads between 81-88 during the day and as low as 65 at night.

jetsman2806 · 06-10-2013, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by big_jaygee

i agree. the room my humidor was in would get too hot during the day so i finally said to hell with it and bought the wine cooler.

well i do have a wine cooler at home problem is there is wine in it lol

equetefue · 06-10-2013, 10:08 AM

seems to me that you figured it out and have yourself a long day ahead sipping on wine

jetsman2806 · 06-10-2013, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by equetefue

seems to me that you figured it out and have yourself a long day ahead sipping on wine

yea i also have a mini fridge but i guess thats out of the question lol

CigarNut · 06-10-2013, 10:24 AM

If you freeze your cigars (to prevent beetles from hatching) the high temperatures should not be as big an issue.

equetefue · 06-10-2013, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CigarNut

If you freeze your cigars (to prevent beetles from hatching) the high temperatures should not be as big an issue.

agreed, but I wouldnt personally risk it still. That's just me though

jetsman2806 · 06-10-2013, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CigarNut

If you freeze your cigars (to prevent beetles from hatching) the high temperatures should not be as big an issue.

I read up on that, but that would mean i wont be able to smoke them for a few weeks once they are out of the freezer as they would need to rehydrate correct?

bobarian · 06-10-2013, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by equetefue

agreed, but I wouldnt personally risk it still. That's just me though

Please advise why you think there is ANY risk to freezing cigars? I have been freezing my cigars for the past 3 years with no affect on flavor or construction.

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Originally Posted by jetsman2806

I read up on that, but that would mean i wont be able to smoke them for a few weeks once they are out of the freezer as they would need to rehydrate correct?

No. The freezing cycle is 24(Fridge) 72(Freezer) 24(Fridge). After this they can be returned to your humidor and smoked immediately. Freezing for such a short period will not affect the Rh of your cigars. If you are worried about running out of cigars to smoke, just leave a few out of the freezer and store in a ziplock bag.

jetsman2806 · 06-10-2013, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

Please advise why you think there is ANY risk to freezing cigars? I have been freezing my cigars for the past 3 years with no affect on flavor or construction.

No. The freezing cycle is 24(Fridge) 72(Freezer) 24(Fridge). After this they can be returned to your humidor and smoked immediately. Freezing for such a short period will not affect the Rh of your cigars. If you are worried about running out of cigars to smoke, just leave a few out of the freezer and store in a ziplock bag.

cool thanks for the clarification. i guess if i cant get the temp down its one of 2 options the other requiring me to empty my wine chiller lol

markem · 06-10-2013, 11:56 AM

I'm a little confused by some of what you wrote, so please bear with me.

It is the humidity in the room that is going up in to the 80s or the temp. A hygrometer measures RH, not temp, but the hygrometer may also have a temp sensor (my Oregon scientific ones do).

If the ambient temp in the room is consistently high, then the temp in the humidor will be high. Remember that it is a fairly airtight container, so once the wood heats up, it won't radiate all that much away over night.

If high temps are a fact of life in your home, then a wine cooler (ask around here as there are many that will not work) is the affordable way to go. You can even put the whole humidor in there if you wish.

If the temp in the humidor is well above (5*+) of the ambient room temp, then open the humidor for a while to get the temp down.

Very best of luck on your setup. I'm fortunate to live in an area where temp isn't really a problem. Also, cigarnut is an excellent source for beads and not just because I herf with him.

jetsman2806 · 06-10-2013, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by markem

I'm a little confused by some of what you wrote, so please bear with me.

It is the humidity in the room that is going up in to the 80s or the temp. A hygrometer measures RH, not temp, but the hygrometer may also have a temp sensor (my Oregon scientific ones do).

If the ambient temp in the room is consistently high, then the temp in the humidor will be high. Remember that it is a fairly airtight container, so once the wood heats up, it won't radiate all that much away over night.

If high temps are a fact of life in your home, then a wine cooler (ask around here as there are many that will not work) is the affordable way to go. You can even put the whole humidor in there if you wish.

If the temp in the humidor is well above (5*+) of the ambient room temp, then open the humidor for a while to get the temp down.

Very best of luck on your setup. I'm fortunate to live in an area where temp isn't really a problem. Also, cigarnut is an excellent source for beads and not just because I herf with him.

sorry if i was unclear.
i have 2 hydrometers a reg dial one that came with the humidor, and a digital that has a temp & humidity readout.

both show the humidity in the humidor around 76%, fluctuates between 76-79% but i am sure the beads i ordered will remedy that.

The digital shows the temp during the day in the humidor between 80-88 degrees.

On sunday i took it out to measure the room temp (it was rather hot yesterday) at times the room hit close to 95 degrees(living in the tropics). With the ac on it brought it down to around 80 degrees.

jetsman2806 · 06-11-2013, 06:11 PM

i think i figured out a temp solution.

at night i will leave it open for a few hours in the a/c to get the temp down and close it up so that in the morning when the full heat of the day starts it should be good enough to hold it to below 80.

testing out the theory tonight.

bobarian · 06-11-2013, 06:28 PM

You may find yourself fighting Rh with this "solution" It sure seems like freezing in batches would be a more effective long term fix.

jetsman2806 · 06-11-2013, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

You may find yourself fighting Rh with this "solution" It sure seems like freezing in batches would be a more effective long term fix.

yea thats probably gonna be what i am going to end up doing. i have a few sticks at the moment stored in a travel humidor so until i figure it out i am gonna keep them in there.

i have some on the way from atlantic within the next couple of days so those will be the first ones to hit the freezer once they arrive

06-10-2013, 09:30 AM	#1
jetsman2806 Still Watching My Back Join Date: May 2013 First Name: Norman Location: Trinidad & Tobago Posts: 79 Trading: (0)	Humidor issue with tempreature hi everyone got a quick question as i have searched everywhere and dont seem to be finding an answer. In the process of seasoning my new humidor its now day 7 following the procedure that was stated in the sticky above. I have the hydrometer in the unit and everything is looking good so far as regards humidity as its around 76% but the temperature is in the mid 80's. I have tried moving the unit to different parts of the house but I cant seem to get the temp below 80. And from everything i read 80 and above is too hot to store them. Can anyone think of a way I can get the temp down? I am not worried about the humidity as i have beads on order and should bring the unit below the 75% once i get them in. Any ideas?

06-10-2013, 10:00 AM	#2
363 Infecting Via PM Join Date: May 2012 First Name: Brendon Location: Maryland Posts: 1,773 Trading: (35)	Re: Humidor issue with tempreature I had the same issue with temp issues and ended up buying a wine cooler and using that instead, allowing me to temp control my stash. __________________ Support our Troops "do NOT put pizza in your briar without letting it cool off Brendon" - Sterns

06-10-2013, 10:08 AM	#6
equetefue Liga Privada Hoarder Join Date: Jun 2012 First Name: Edwin Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,348 Trading: (17)	Re: Humidor issue with tempreature seems to me that you figured it out and have yourself a long day ahead sipping on wine

06-10-2013, 10:24 AM	#8
CigarNut Fck Cancer! Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Michael Location: Clermont, Florida Posts: 18,038 Trading: (111*)	Re: Humidor issue with tempreature If you freeze your cigars (to prevent beetles from hatching) the high temperatures should not be as big an issue. __________________ Need Beads? Need Five Finger Bags? 2 of 3 Requirements for use of the CA Rolodex: 100 posts/ 60 day membership/ participation in trade (trader rating). New members can be added at any time.

06-10-2013, 11:56 AM	#13
markem Bunion Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Second Star on the Right Posts: 22,536 Trading: (47)	Re: Humidor issue with tempreature I'm a little confused by some of what you wrote, so please bear with me. It is the humidity in the room that is going up in to the 80s or the temp. A hygrometer measures RH, not temp, but the hygrometer may also have a temp sensor (my Oregon scientific ones do). If the ambient temp in the room is consistently high, then the temp in the humidor will be high. Remember that it is a fairly airtight container, so once the wood heats up, it won't radiate all that much away over night. If high temps are a fact of life in your home, then a wine cooler (ask around here as there are many that will not work) is the affordable way to go. You can even put the whole humidor in there if you wish. If the temp in the humidor is well above (5*+) of the ambient room temp, then open the humidor for a while to get the temp down. Very best of luck on your setup. I'm fortunate to live in an area where temp isn't really a problem. Also, cigarnut is an excellent source for beads and not just because I herf with him. __________________ I refuse to belong to any organization that would have me as a member. ~ Groucho Marx

06-11-2013, 06:11 PM	#15
jetsman2806 Still Watching My Back Join Date: May 2013 First Name: Norman Location: Trinidad & Tobago Posts: 79 Trading: (0)	Re: Humidor issue with tempreature i think i figured out a temp solution. at night i will leave it open for a few hours in the a/c to get the temp down and close it up so that in the morning when the full heat of the day starts it should be good enough to hold it to below 80. testing out the theory tonight.

06-11-2013, 06:28 PM	#16
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Humidor issue with tempreature You may find yourself fighting Rh with this "solution" It sure seems like freezing in batches would be a more effective long term fix.