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01-28-2010, 08:26 PM | #1381 | |
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01-29-2010, 08:43 PM | #1382 |
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01-29-2010, 10:37 PM | #1383 | |
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01-30-2010, 07:50 AM | #1385 |
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Luke, a great resource is http://www.galleryofguns.com/.
You can select a firearm, shop the exact model you want, pump in your zipcode, and it will give you instant quotes for them to ship to your local FFL dealers, painless, and you will probably find a pretty good deal. Not only are you mostly supporting local mom and pops instead of big box stores, may help you find some great local shops you never heard of. Oh yeah, they have a lifetime guarantee when you purchase from them. "At Davidson's, your satisfaction is our commitment. In fact, our commitment is so strong, that we have put together the only GuaranteeDSM Lifetime Replacement Warranty available in the firearms industry. It works like this...... If anything ever goes wrong with any gun you buy with the Davidson's GuaranteeDSM Lifetime Replacement Warranty, it will be replaced. If no replacement is available, it will be repaired at no charge to you. Simple, just return it to the GuaranteeDSM retailer where you purchased it, pay for the return shipping and upon receipt Davidson's will ship you * BRAND NEW GUN. So make sure every firearm you purchase works for you. Ask for the GuaranteeDSM Lifetime Replacement Warranty. " That's a pretty strong commitment to your continued satisfaction, in my book. Last edited by replicant_argent; 01-30-2010 at 08:00 AM. |
01-30-2010, 10:35 AM | #1386 | |
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In my particular situation, the prime places for a confrontation are confined, so there would be no lateral movement. If BG is running towards me, 00. If he's running away, no shot and hopefully the cops catch him. |
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01-30-2010, 10:59 AM | #1387 |
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jm2c and not a reflection on anybody's plans or choices.
1. If a situation ever occurred (chances are it won't) one should have already thought out a plan and at the very minimum practiced it in his/her head. 2. One should have at a very minimum fired the weapon with the actual load they would use. *if this ever really happens you are going to be disoriented, scared and on a adrenalin high. I set a plan up where the weapon is handy and ready to go (this may not work with children around). I set zones at which point should an intruder come past that line I would react. If the intruder never crosses that line or doesn't threaten me, well....that's what the police and insurance are for. For me that line is the door frame to the bed room. It is a white frame and easy to see in complete darkness. I have my wife grab a pistol and go into the bathroom (call police) and wait for me. I kneel with the bed as cover with a shotgun. If somebody comes through the bedroom door (remember white frame), I shoot for center mass of white frame with 00 Buck. I shoot to put the threat completely down. I would not shoot to "wing". If somebody is attempting to enter the main door and I happen to be able to wake up with time to react, I do the following. Have my wife grab a pistol, go in the bathroom and call police. I get the shotgun, load one round slug followed by 00 buck. I then position myself behind couch with clear shot at door. The slug will go through a metal security door and the 00 buck would take care of anything else. Access threat and threat level, wash, rinse, repeat and/or wait for Police. Reality....this will never happen as the odds are greatly in my favor of never being rob/assulted....but I like to know I have a plan. Word to the wise. Dead people don't sue in civil court. everybody has a plan until they get hit |
01-30-2010, 11:41 AM | #1388 |
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All good points... But remember, the BGs family, can, and do sue. And sometimes they win, even though their family member was threatening a life.
the justice system sometimes doesn't work. Still, better alive and broke, or in jail than the alternative. |
01-30-2010, 11:45 AM | #1389 | |
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Come at me or my family and you aren't testifying in court. Guaranteed. (not YOU personally, just any scumbag that makes the front page headlines daily in my local newspaper.) Main plan in my head is not to speak without a lawyer with the exception of, "I was scared for my life." I'm not a vigilante or a toughguy, just a firm supporter of my second ammendment rights and tired of the crap I see every day and will never let my ccw expire. Guy walked into the Kangaroo convenience store near my house a few weeks ago and tried to rob the pregnant girl working the register at gunpoint. A good samaritan blew the bg's brains out and deserves a medal for it. As much as I'd like a few AR's and such, a gunvault on my nightstand holding a loaded 38 and a very well hidden Mossberg shotgun and motion sensors and 2 way alarms make me feel safer at night. With children in my house, that's as much as I feel comfortable with.
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01-30-2010, 12:11 PM | #1390 |
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Reposting this since I got caught in the middle of a gun fight (full pun intended )
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01-30-2010, 12:42 PM | #1391 | |
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I trust my shot placement enough to be comfortable with birdshot on the first shot. For the record, I'm not talking #7/8, I'm talking #3. What I don't like the idea of is a lateral shot that I cannot take because of a backdrop. A situation that gives the BG the upper hand and leaves the shotgun in my hand useless unless I maneuver or he moves. And while I'm completely confident in my shot placement. The probability of putting all 8-12 00 pellots completely on target... lets just say I've taken enough probability in college to know that's a bit of a stretch to assume you'll have maximum hits on target. Regardless of any of this, if the BG turns tail and runs, good luck winning in court if you shoot him in the back. (This depends on state laws) And for the record... your plan works unless you have kids. Food for thought. Last edited by JE3146; 01-30-2010 at 12:48 PM. |
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01-30-2010, 01:51 PM | #1392 |
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Great discussion guys! Back on the 870...do they not make the HD model anymore? On the Remington site I only see the Express models which look similar (and a ton of them at that!)
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01-30-2010, 02:45 PM | #1393 | |
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The real issue to have a weapon your comfortable with using, a plan of what you would do, and some reasonable amount of practice with the weapon. |
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01-30-2010, 02:48 PM | #1394 | |
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Considering the amount of bums that live around here, I've never seen a fight or altercation. Even on the crazy nights like Halloween, it's just plain drunken debauchery and nudity. |
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01-30-2010, 03:04 PM | #1395 |
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01-30-2010, 03:10 PM | #1396 | |
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I'm pretty sure this is it... just with a different name. http://remington.com/products/firear...c-7-round.aspx |
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01-30-2010, 03:33 PM | #1397 |
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Holy Cow! I think they have expanded the 870 line in recent years. There is like 50 options now.
I have the 870 Super Mag Synthetic. I love it. It is a hunting model - only holds 5 rounds "unplugged" |
01-30-2010, 06:30 PM | #1398 |
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That's why I use 3" #4 buckshot. 41 pellets. From the ballistics research I've read, and the ranges in my home, that seems like a good compromise between stopping power, pattern, and penetration.
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01-30-2010, 07:00 PM | #1399 |
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01-30-2010, 07:46 PM | #1400 |
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wow, the Mexican drug lords are not only well armed, but also gold plating their Uzis...
guess when the money piles up, you gotta find some way to spend it...
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