Third Annual Fantasy Football for Stakes and the Troops

[BeerAdvocate]

1. Shilala
2. Coach
3. Cole
4. Stephen
5. mkarnold1
6. Mattso3000
7. Jarrod
8. Sofaman
9. Jeremy
10. BeerAdvocate

[chaase321]

Originally Posted by BeerAdvocate

1. Shilala
2. Coach
3. Cole
4. Stephen
5. mkarnold1
6. Mattso3000
7. Jarrod
8. Sofaman
9. Jeremy
10. BeerAdvocate

Looks like we are golden
Hope things are good with you Scott, and you are able to get the rest of the details out. This is a pretty good deal.

[Mattso3000]

Originally Posted by BeerAdvocate

1. Shilala
2. Coach
3. Cole
4. Stephen
5. mkarnold1
6. Mattso3000
7. Jarrod
8. Sofaman
9. Jeremy
10. BeerAdvocate

Nice. Everyone is in.

[Coach Deg]

Ok Week 1 Bet- I lost a troop 5 to Matt, and Stephen, Sofaman, and Mark lost a troop 5er to me.

[Mattso3000]

Originally Posted by Coach Deg

Ok Week 1 Bet- I lost a troop 5 to Matt, and Stephen, Sofaman, and Mark lost a troop 5er to me.

[JenksAnejo]

YTD Troop Bets

Chaase321 owe's 5 troop sticks. (Chaase321 vs. JenksAnejo 9/2/12)

Week 1

Coach Deg owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. Mattso3000)
Stephen owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. Stephen)
Sofa man owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. Sofaman)
Mkarnold owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. MKArnold1)

[JenksAnejo]

Anyone want to go against me on any of these spreads for a troop 5er?

9/13 8:10 ET At Green Bay -5.5 Chicago
9/16 1:00 ET At NY Giants -7.5 Tampa Bay
9/16 1:00 ET At New England -13.5 Arizona

[Mattso3000]

Originally Posted by JenksAnejo

Anyone want to go against me on any of these spreads for a troop 5er?

9/13 8:10 ET At Green Bay -5.5 Chicago
9/16 1:00 ET At NY Giants -7.5 Tampa Bay
9/16 1:00 ET At New England -13.5 Arizona

I'll take the Pack.

[JenksAnejo]

Alright Matt, it's a deal buddy.

[shilala]

I see everyone is in on the pass, that's awesome!!!
I dug out a brand new travel humi and a box. I will go pack it up and get it ready to go. Obviously it won't make it to anyone for this weekend, but I'll get it out asap.
Will everyone please send me their address, and I'll put together a list I can forward to everyone involved.
I'll work on all this during the game tonight and have everything ready to go in the morning.
Thanks, guys!!!

[shilala]

Hi Guys,
Please look over these pass rules. I banged them out pretty quickly and I need your help to finish them up, adjust them, add or subtract from them, whatever. Please post any changes you'd like in red. The whole thing could use an edit, as well.
I will post the list of cigars right after the rules.
I'm going to send the box to Stephen today, we'll get the rules hammered out and go from there while the box is on the way.
Thanks!!!

[shilala]

Pass Rules

1.) This is probably the biggest and most important, hence the #1 position. You MUST purchase insurance when shipping the pass box. The box is to go between recipients via Priority Mail, Insured for $499. At whatever point the value of the cigars goes over that, please let everyone know and we'll raise it to $599 and so on.
2.)So far as Puts and Takes go...
If you take a cc, put a cc. If you take an nc, put an nc. I'm not absolute on this as some guys may not have one type of smoke or another, but it is the general rule and should see very few exceptions if any.
This is a top-notch pass as you'll see by the list. Please respect that, and replace cigars with premium cigars. That's not to say there's not a place for lower notch cigars, just please, not in this pass.
Puts and takes are to be like value, and each member agrees to add a couple extra cigars to seed this pass for years to come.
Please post your puts and takes in the Fantasy Football thread so a couple guys can okay them before you ship to the next participant. If you aren't sure about your puts and takes and want to speak to someone privately before posting in the thread, just drop someone a pm.
3.) At any point, if you have a question and cannot reach me, Stephen or Scott's (Sofaman) word are as good as mine.
4.) Once the package is received, please try to get it out the next day. This is a very tight schedule pass being it's running weekend to weekend.
5.) Once mailed, please post the shipped date & delivery confirmation number if shipped USPS, or tracking number if shipped via courier (ie: UPS, FedEx, DHL, etc) for all to see.
6.) If at some point this pass overfills the box, let me know and we'll figure out what to do.
7.) At season's end, I'll retrieve my cigars that I used to seed the pass and I'll leave what's left. Next season I will use those extras we gain to seed the new pass, and if necessary I will add more to make it more interesting.
8.) In the box will be single finger bags. Please make sure puts are placed in finger bags and marked. There are also other supplies in there, please use them as necessary.
9.) There will be a flash drive in the supplies envelope. It will have the participant's addresses, pass rules, and list of cigars on it. Please update the cigar list with your puts and takes as we go. If you'd like to update the "what's in the box list", that'd be great. If not, please just list your puts and takes and say who you were. Someone down the line may adjust the list. Please DO NOT erase any information on the list. Just add to the bottom of the list.

[shilala]

51 Smokes in the pass box...
CC
2-99 La Flor Del Cano Preferido
02 La Gloria Cubana #1 Medaille de Or
2-00 Vegueros Seaone
2-10 Quintero Brevas
2-10 JLP Cremas
11 HDM Hoyo Du Gourmet
11 RASS
11 San Cristobal El Principe
10 Vegas Robaina Famosos
10 Rafael Gonzales Panatelas Extras
2-02 La Gloria Cubana Medaille de Or #3
09 H.Upmann Mag 46
10 Fonseca Cadetes
11 H. Upmann pc
09 H. Upmann Mag 50
10 Por Larranaga pc
10 Juan Lopez Seleccion #1
11 Trini Reyes
09 Bolivar Gold Medal
11 Cohiba Panatelas
10 Por Larranaga Coronas Junior
06 Punch Margarita
06 H. Upmann
2-'11 RASSC
09 Punch pc
09 Cuaba Distinguidos
10 Monte 4
11 Boli pc
10 El Rey Del Mundo pc
10 Cohiba Especiales
NC
Short Story Maduro
Oliva V #4
Oliva Blue Ovation (paper)
06 Anejo
04 Oliva Bold O (red paper)
Skull and Bones
08 AVO #9 Maduro
09 Litto Gomez Oscuro Americano
Miraflor Lancero
09 DPG JJ Maduro
10 LFD Airbender
Uzi Weighs A Ton
08 Old Henry Maduro
Illusione Epernay

[Stephen]

Just an observation, but with the contents of the pass leaning considerably ISOM, it'll be difficult for some of us simpletons (this guy) to fully enjoy and participate if a strict nc for nc and cc for cc is adhered to. If maybe the pass was initially more balanced or the restrictions lessened (while leeway is assumed it is also currently restricted) it wouldn't be an issue. Ultimately this is Scott's pass and he's generous enough to seed it with his personal stock, so he can decide how he sees fit.

In short, I just don't want to ruffle any feathers.

[shilala]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Just an observation, but with the contents of the pass leaning considerably ISOM, it'll be difficult for some of us simpletons (this guy) to fully enjoy and participate if a strict nc for nc and cc for cc is adhered to. If maybe the pass was initially more balanced or the restrictions lessened (while leeway is assumed it is also currently restricted) it wouldn't be an issue. Ultimately this is Scott's pass and he's generous enough to seed it with his personal stock, so he can decide how he sees fit.

In short, I just don't want to ruffle any feathers.

I was writing while you were.
I agree with you completely. We just need a way to institute your idea and put it in rule form.
It's not my pass, as I mentioned. It's OUR pass. I need you all to speak up as such.
If it helps, look at the cigar pass subforum for rules. I was looking there, but it was all kinda greek to me. I'm changing some meds again and my head is like soup. I'm real pleased I've done as well as I have.

[Stephen]

Question...

Are we getting off the merry-go-round after one trip, or are we going to continuously cycle it throughout the season (or until it makes it through everyone X amount of times)?

[shilala]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Question...

Are we getting off the merry-go-round after one trip, or are we going to continuously cycle it throughout the season (or until it makes it through everyone X amount of times)?

I'd like to move it as fast as possible and get it through as many hands as possible until the season is over.
If guys would like to continue until Spring, I see no problem with that, either. We should definately take a break Start back up August something.
We can kick it back in during pre-season, or as soon as we all come together and get the league going for next year?

It's easy enough to track who had it last (from year to year), it'll all be on the flash drive I put in the box.

[chaase321]

Looks like a hell of a list Scott!

The rules look well thought out as well. The list of CC's if fantastic

Do you know the order of shipping yet?

[shilala]

Originally Posted by chaase321

Looks like a hell of a list Scott!

The rules look well thought out as well. The list of CC's if fantastic

Do you know the order of shipping yet?

I'm working on that now, Cole. It's going to Stephen today because he's ready.
I need some more input on the rules. I was texting Stephen and he mentioned the lopsided cc to nc ratio in the box, and that we'll probably need to relax the "cc for cc, nc for nc" rule. I agree with him, it's just a very difficult thing to do. We need ideas on how to implement that fairly.
I also need to know "how many smokes can a guy put/take?" We have nothing in there about that.

Mainly, you guys need to know this is OUR pass. I'm just looking over it to get it started. Yeah, I have some smokes invested, but that really means nothing. Shortly this will be everyone's smokes and I won't have any more in it than anyone else, and someone else will likely take care of the pass and need to adjust the rules to suit. Someone else will also have to be the final word on puts and takes and what goes on with the pass.

I just wanted to add another component to make this the most awesome FF League ever, ya know?
So I NEED you guys to speak up on the rules.

[jkim05]

Originally Posted by shilala

I'm working on that now, Cole. It's going to Stephen today because he's ready.
I need some more input on the rules. I was texting Stephen and he mentioned the lopsided cc to nc ratio in the box, and that we'll probably need to relax the "cc for cc, nc for nc" rule. I agree with him, it's just a very difficult thing to do. We need ideas on how to implement that fairly.
I also need to know "how many smokes can a guy put/take?" We have nothing in there about that.

Mainly, you guys need to know this is OUR pass. I'm just looking over it to get it started. Yeah, I have some smokes invested, but that really means nothing. Shortly this will be everyone's smokes and I won't have any more in it than anyone else, and someone else will likely take care of the pass and need to adjust the rules to suit. Someone else will also have to be the final word on puts and takes and what goes on with the pass.

I just wanted to add another component to make this the most awesome FF League ever, ya know?
So I NEED you guys to speak up on the rules.

I'm not opposed to relaxing the CC/NC rule, but in my experience, what I've seen happen is that eventually the pass gets stripped of CC's and left with only NC's because people aren't taking NC's and leaving CC's. Personally I vote for keeping the rule because I don't really have any NC's, and I'm not really interested in picking any up. Not trying to exclude anyone, but I wouldn't be able to play on the NC side, so it kinda works both ways.

As for the number of cigars that can be swapped, I don't care if there's no limit.