Gurkha Hate

[Blak Smyth]

Originally Posted by kelmac07

At one point Simon...The Black Dragon story began in 2006 when it hit the market with the hefty price tag of $1,150.00 per cigar, the most expensive cigar ever made. Only 5 hand-carved camel bone boxes of 100 cigars were produced, making this stick very, very limited.. Now the Black Dragon can be had (depending on vitola) for between $ 7.50 (robusto) to $ 17.50 (tubo).

Bahahaha perfect example of Gurkhatronics at work!

Originally Posted by kelmac07

At one point Simon...The Black Dragon story began in 2006 when it hit the market with the hefty price tag of $1,150.00 per cigar, the most expensive cigar ever made. Only 5 hand-carved camel bone boxes of 100 cigars were produced, making this stick very, very limited. Must have been paying for that hand-carved camel bone, because today the Black Dragon can be had (depending on vitola) for between $ 7.50 (robusto) to $ 17.50 (tubo).

See i would understand the cubans doing this as its the communists winning over us capitalist pigs once again but really charging that much for some camel bone box is something cohiba wouldn't even do and they come up with some overpriced crap most of the time COUGH LANCEROS COUGH

Originally Posted by kelmac07

At one point Simon...The Black Dragon story began in 2006 when it hit the market with the hefty price tag of $1,150.00 per cigar, the most expensive cigar ever made. Only 5 hand-carved camel bone boxes of 100 cigars were produced, making this stick very, very limited. Must have been paying for that hand-carved camel bone, because today the Black Dragon can be had (depending on vitola) for between $ 7.50 (robusto) to $ 17.50 (tubo).

But by creating 5 boxes that cost them a grand total of about $400, they got the entire cigar world to talk about them.

That's advertising you can't pay for.

[fencefixer]

I don't hate Ghurka, much like, for example Harley Davidson. Most of it lies in marketing strategies. Hype the name to sell an "OK" product to people that don't know any better.


Would I pay $15000+ for a HD? Hell no. Bigger, better, cheaper out there.
Would I pay $3000 for a HD? Sure.

Would I pay $15+ for a Ghurka? Hell no. Bigger, better, cheaper out there.
Would I pay $3 for a Ghurka? Sure.

I tried "Cask Strength" and "Crest", liked them. They were okay.

You ride what you like, you smoke what you like, you do what you like! DC sends love, stop arguing .

[Islayphile]

The only Gurkha's I've had that were decent were the cheap ones...

Doble Maduro and Grand Age

I haven't smoked either one of those in years, so please don't take that as any king of endorsement whatsoever.

[oldforge]

The Centurian is the only cigar I have ever had that tasted like soap--yes, soap.
The Legends are Ok yard gars when the wrappers don't explode.

But it has been more than five years since I actually bought one.

[hammondc]

for $2 they are not bad. For $10+ they are some of the worst out there.

[JenksAnejo]

ick!

[Islayphile]

Friends don't let friends smoke Gurkha

[dave]

Gurkha hate is a somewhat silly phenomenom if you ask me. So much of what bothers people about Gurkha has little to do with the flavor and construction of the cigars.
Many Gurkhas have unreasonably high MSRP's -- So do CAO's, RP's, many others. Just because a Titan has an MSRP of $20 bucks doesn't mean anything to me if I can get them for $3. Gurkha puts out time, money, effort into some incredible packaging. Doesn't do much for me, but I've seen empty Gurkha boxes sold for quite a bit of scratch, so somebody likes them. Gurkha contracts out their manufacturing, but so do many, many other cigar companies. Gurkha puts out a LOT of different cigars - so do Pete, Pepin, Padilla...... Perhaps a little more identification and/or differentiation on the bands would help, but again - so what. Lots of stories about exploding Gurkhas out there. I've had some issues in the past, but I don't write off the whole line. I will avoid the Fuertes or whatever they were called, but by and large, I haven't had a lot of construction problems.
I'd bet that many Gurkha haters got sucked into ad copy by some of the large internet retailers promising incredible smokes at 50% of MSRP. I did. Had some pretty crappy Gurkhas over the years. But there are good ones, too. If anything, all the hate allows me to grab pretty good cigars on the cheap at cigarbid.

I think that if most haters came across any of these in a blind taste test, they'd be pleasantly surprised:

Black Dragon
Nepalese Warrior
Ancient Warrior (Purple Band)
Micro Batch TPB-1 - Corojo Box-press Lancero
G5 Avenger
Master Select

[smitty81]

I have never had a Gurkha.

I've been intrigued but never bought one.
^^^^
True Story.

[Islayphile]

Originally Posted by smitty81

I have never had a Gurkha.

I've been intrigued but never bought one.
^^^^
True Story.

Consider yourself to be a "puro"

[shilala]

Smoke what you like, Dave.

Personally, I've found that Gurkha just simply does not worry about their blends. There's just simply nothing there, they're in the business of glamour-saling inferior cigars. I don't smoke them simply because I find them lousy at any price point and don't care to support their business model.
Mac mentioned the Doble Maduro, I can remember the Nepalese Warrior having a little spice about it, but that was long ago. Everything else I tried was bland or just plain disgusting.
So I just smoke what I like.

OP, We rag on Gurkha because it's fun. It's well-founded and most everyone here has had a run-in with Gurkha that didn't go so well. It's fun to share the pain.

[Stephen]

I have some Titans that I keep on hand that I smoke during softball practice. It's a pretty boring, one-dimensional smoke, but it's constructed decent and lasts the entire time, so it serves its purpose. Haven't smoked any other Gurkha's I've particularly cared for, however.

[Blak Smyth]

Originally Posted by shilala

Smoke what you like, Dave.

Personally, I've found that Gurkha just simply does not worry about their blends. There's just simply nothing there, they're in the business of glamour-saling inferior cigars. I don't smoke them simply because I find them lousy at any price point and don't care to support their business model.
Mac mentioned the Doble Maduro, I can remember the Nepalese Warrior having a little spice about it, but that was long ago. Everything else I tried was bland or just plain disgusting.
So I just smoke what I like.

OP, We rag on Gurkha because it's fun. It's well-founded and most everyone here has had a run-in with Gurkha that didn't go so well. It's fun to share the pain.

I agree with everything you said!

I will be honest, I think I have only had 5-6 Gurkhas but they where bad enough for me to write off the line when combined with their business model. I have an ancient warrior in my humi that I will someday get up the courage to try, it is gorgeous looking. I don't think you can compare Gurkha to Pepin or Tatuaje, as I feel almost everything they make is great. Some people say Gurkha makes a few okay sticks, but out of the 75 that suck it isn't worth looking for the needle in the Gurkha hay stack. I love to hear that somebody likes a Gurkha though, it means they will get great deals on Cbid. Gurkha is the poster boy brand of how not to be a trustworthy "Premium" cigar producer that seems to make the majority of their sales to the new smoker who is captivated by the pretty glitter.

I was told by a B&M owner that Gurkha charges them extra for a box and requires them to sell the empty box to customers to get their money back.

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth

I agree with everything you said!

I will be honest, I think I have only had 5-6 Gurkhas but they where bad enough for me to write off the line when combined with their business model. I have an ancient warrior in my humi that I will someday get up the courage to try, it is gorgeous looking. I don't think you can compare Gurkha to Pepin or Tatuaje, as I feel almost everything they make is great. Some people say Gurkha makes a few okay sticks, but out of the 75 that suck it isn't worth looking for the needle in the Gurkha hay stack. I love to hear that somebody likes a Gurkha though, it means they will get great deals on Cbid. Gurkha is the poster boy brand of how not to be a trustworthy "Premium" cigar producer that seems to make the majority of their sales to the new smoker who is captivated by the pretty glitter.

I was told by a B&M owner that Gurkha charges them extra for a box and requires them to sell the empty box to customers to get their money back.

Thinking about it now i have found one good demi-gurkha smoke being the park avenue 44 its a decent mild stick thats what $2-2.50 i think.

While it dosnt carry the gurkha brand lable i think its made by the same people who make gurkhas.

[mmblz]

The Gurkha Hate?
Is that their newest $60 per cigar offering?

[Blak Smyth]

Originally Posted by mmblz

The Gurkha Hate?
Is that their newest $60 per cigar offering?

It was $60 but now you can find them for $1.25

[JenksAnejo]

And for some it is that flavor, a mix of dirt, and, well.....more dirt

I agree with Icehog, the hatred I have for Gurkha's is 100% the flavor of the smoke. I don't care what the cigar looks like; the cigar must taste good for me to be able to smoke it.

[NCRadioMan]

You wanna know why? You really wanna know why I hate Gurkha so much?

Ok.

Gurkha destroyed my life. My family's life and is even responsible for my home being torn down! Plus, they are on the path to world domination!


I HATE GURKHA SO MUCH!