St Louis Cardinals Fans Sound Off! - Page 21

688sonarmen · 06-13-2013, 05:56 AM

Wacha did work through it, but I would still send him down since he seems to be being groomed to be a starter and I think he needs a full season in the minors. As for the lefty I would say Boggs, Zepchinsky (Scrabble) Lol, and Marte would make excellent trade fodder for a decent lefty from on of the sub .400 clubs.

Gee pitched well last night and had the Cards guessing wrong all night. To bad about Miller, he had some good stuff but a rough 1st and got caught on a few fastballs. Rubber match in a few hrs!

100% agree with you about Westbrook.

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Originally Posted by qwerty1500

Well ... the rookie did okay once he settled down after the first inning ... not dominate ... but okay ... still walked too many batters. The first inning and all the walks really ran up his pitch count.

Here's my question for the morning. Who do you move from the rotation, Lyons or Wacha?

I'm not sure that Westbrook will be back to stay.

Lyons is the only left-hander in the rotation.

Mozeliak was dropping all kinds of hints about Wacha needing to stay at AAA to work on his curve ball. Do you bring that kind of talent up for three games just to send him back to work on his curve ball? They knew that when they brought him up.

qwerty1500 · 06-14-2013, 06:16 AM

Wow ... love a good pitching duel. Two really good pitchers ... Cy Young candidates really ... amazing defense and key hits ... all down to the last out ... what more can you want?

Westbrook tonight. We'll see if he's healthy.

Btw, have good tickets for the Cubbies game next Tuesday.

qwerty1500 · 06-16-2013, 02:37 AM

What happened to our starting pitching? Thought Westbrook might still have some physical problems ... not so sure after watching what they did to Lynn.

Heard that Mozeliak sent Wacha down because he wasn't able to locate his fast ball and that made his change-up a lot less effective. I guess we will see if Lyons can solve the problem with the Miami lineup.

688sonarmen · 06-16-2013, 06:12 AM

Lynn had a sort of implosion late last year. I think also he is putting weight back on. I'm not sure what it all means but maybe he has the game endurance to be a starter but not the season endurance.

qwerty1500 · 06-16-2013, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 688sonarmen

Lynn had a sort of implosion late last year.

Yeah, he did. Think we heard the first pop?

Hadn't noticed the weight thing ... but I'll be looking for it.

qwerty1500 · 06-16-2013, 04:58 PM

Sheesh ........

688sonarmen · 06-16-2013, 05:15 PM

Had to happen some time, fitting it was against Miami.

qwerty1500 · 06-17-2013, 06:21 AM

Yep, totally agree.

If that's how they are going to play in the heat and humidity, it's going to be a long summer in St. Louis.

qwerty1500 · 06-18-2013, 09:35 PM

Got to watch that awful game in person.

Wanno had a disasterous first inning. Our line-up didn't seem to be trying to work the count and kept their starter in the game ... who looked like Cy Young for the 8 innings I saw. Freese with two dp's killed the only rally hopes until the 9th inning. Plus, we had to sit next to two cub fans ...

Can't say I enjoyed it much.

But ... trying to find something good to say ... it was a beautiful night to be at Busch.

688sonarmen · 06-19-2013, 05:50 AM

It did look nice on tv. I came in before the last out in the bottom of the 1st and had to rub my eyes. That S 13 guy for the Cubs was pitching pretty good though. Hey at least the 9th showed some promise. I feel for you though, the next ge I'm going to is July 7th vs Miami, going to be really pissed if the Cards lose.

qwerty1500 · 06-19-2013, 10:17 PM

At Busch again tonight. Great seats ... row 14 between home and the cubies dugout. Perfect spot to watch Westbrook. Was a little concerned after his last outing but he looked solid ... everything seemed to be working.

Some sloppy play on defense. Not a lot of offense ... but enough. Hoping Holliday is coming out of his slump ... that boy is streaky.

Overall, enjoyed this one much more than last night. Negatives? We're hitting into too many double plays. And, Busch is starting to warm up ... mid 80's all night and not much of breeze.

688sonarmen · 06-20-2013, 05:50 AM

It was good to see Westbrook get a W. there should have been more double plays but the Cubs defense like the Cards was a little sloppy. I was really surprised to see M Carpenters. Also Yaddi has not been himself on defense lately. But a W is a W!

qwerty1500 · 06-21-2013, 06:39 AM

Is it possible that Lynn "un-imploded?" I didn't see any of this game ... had to work ... but listened to the 8th and 9th innings on the way home. From the box score and what I've heard, it sounds like Lynn had his game going. However, only 6 innings and 90+ pitches ... 3 hits, 6 strike-outs and only 2 walks ... sounds like he had to work for every out.

Holliday was 2 for 4 with a HR ... slump seems gone ... for now.

Still a little concerned about the DP's. Hit into 2 and one was a rally killer.

Tonight, they're matching up Lyons against the Rangers. Hope that works out ...

688sonarmen · 06-21-2013, 08:09 AM

Lynn was pitching vs the Cubs, lol! Maybe he just was a little uneasy for a few games. Not sure how the Rangers are doing this year but it should be interesting!

qwerty1500 · 06-22-2013, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 688sonarmen

Lynn was pitching vs the Cubs, lol! Maybe he just was a little uneasy for a few games. Not sure how the Rangers are doing this year but it should be interesting!

Well ... wasn't his "implosion" against the Marlins ... an even worse record that our beloved cubbies?

Rangers are a pretty good club again, as we saw last night. Why do we have so much trouble with left-handers every single year?

I'm about ready to throw in the towel on Mr Lyons. Shelby tonight.

688sonarmen · 06-22-2013, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by qwerty1500

Well ... wasn't his "implosion" against the Marlins ... an even worse record that our beloved cubbies?

Rangers are a pretty good club again, as we saw last night. Why do we have so much trouble with left-handers every single year?

I'm about ready to throw in the towel on Mr Lyons. Shelby tonight.

Looks like they did send Lyons back down. Kelly proved last year he could start and has had limited innings this year to build up stamina, why not get him going and stop bringing young guys up from the minors.

I have no clue about the Matt Holliday dong, lol!

Go Cards and Go Miller!

qwerty1500 · 06-22-2013, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 688sonarmen

Looks like they did send Lyons back down. Kelly proved last year he could start and has had limited innings this year to build up stamina, why not get him going and stop bringing young guys up from the minors.

I have no clue about the Matt Holliday dong, lol!

Go Cards and Go Miller!

Kelly was good last year/night ... why not?

Matt? Remember Jeffery "one-flap down" Leonard's home run trot ... sort of the same deal.

Rain delay ... they will get it in.

The Poet · 06-22-2013, 12:26 PM

So what's this story about Matt Holliday hitting a dinger with his dong out? I thought you could only be swinging ONE bat atta time!

688sonarmen · 06-22-2013, 05:19 PM

Blacked out on MLBTV and flipping Baughston is on FOX, FML!

688sonarmen · 06-22-2013, 05:55 PM

Lol! Just saw this, Matt Cs reaction in the dugout is classic!

06-14-2013, 06:16 AM	#2
qwerty1500 Good thing I'm normal Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: One Particular Harbor Posts: 607 Trading: (0)	Re: St Louis Cardinals Fans Sound Off! Wow ... love a good pitching duel. Two really good pitchers ... Cy Young candidates really ... amazing defense and key hits ... all down to the last out ... what more can you want? Westbrook tonight. We'll see if he's healthy. Btw, have good tickets for the Cubbies game next Tuesday.

06-16-2013, 02:37 AM	#3
qwerty1500 Good thing I'm normal Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: One Particular Harbor Posts: 607 Trading: (0)	Re: St Louis Cardinals Fans Sound Off! What happened to our starting pitching? Thought Westbrook might still have some physical problems ... not so sure after watching what they did to Lynn. Heard that Mozeliak sent Wacha down because he wasn't able to locate his fast ball and that made his change-up a lot less effective. I guess we will see if Lyons can solve the problem with the Miami lineup.

06-16-2013, 06:12 AM	#4
688sonarmen Shipmate! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Jake Location: Norwich, Ct Posts: 2,698 Trading: (17)	Re: St Louis Cardinals Fans Sound Off! Lynn had a sort of implosion late last year. I think also he is putting weight back on. I'm not sure what it all means but maybe he has the game endurance to be a starter but not the season endurance.

06-16-2013, 04:58 PM	#6
qwerty1500 Good thing I'm normal Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: One Particular Harbor Posts: 607 Trading: (0)	Re: St Louis Cardinals Fans Sound Off! Sheesh ........

06-16-2013, 05:15 PM	#7
688sonarmen Shipmate! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Jake Location: Norwich, Ct Posts: 2,698 Trading: (17)	Re: St Louis Cardinals Fans Sound Off! Had to happen some time, fitting it was against Miami.

06-17-2013, 06:21 AM	#8
qwerty1500 Good thing I'm normal Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: One Particular Harbor Posts: 607 Trading: (0)	Re: St Louis Cardinals Fans Sound Off! Yep, totally agree. If that's how they are going to play in the heat and humidity, it's going to be a long summer in St. Louis.

06-18-2013, 09:35 PM	#9
qwerty1500 Good thing I'm normal Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: One Particular Harbor Posts: 607 Trading: (0)	Re: St Louis Cardinals Fans Sound Off! Got to watch that awful game in person. Wanno had a disasterous first inning. Our line-up didn't seem to be trying to work the count and kept their starter in the game ... who looked like Cy Young for the 8 innings I saw. Freese with two dp's killed the only rally hopes until the 9th inning. Plus, we had to sit next to two cub fans ... Can't say I enjoyed it much. But ... trying to find something good to say ... it was a beautiful night to be at Busch.

06-19-2013, 05:50 AM	#10
688sonarmen Shipmate! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Jake Location: Norwich, Ct Posts: 2,698 Trading: (17)	Re: St Louis Cardinals Fans Sound Off! It did look nice on tv. I came in before the last out in the bottom of the 1st and had to rub my eyes. That S 13 guy for the Cubs was pitching pretty good though. Hey at least the 9th showed some promise. I feel for you though, the next ge I'm going to is July 7th vs Miami, going to be really pissed if the Cards lose.

06-19-2013, 10:17 PM	#11
qwerty1500 Good thing I'm normal Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: One Particular Harbor Posts: 607 Trading: (0)	Re: St Louis Cardinals Fans Sound Off! At Busch again tonight. Great seats ... row 14 between home and the cubies dugout. Perfect spot to watch Westbrook. Was a little concerned after his last outing but he looked solid ... everything seemed to be working. Some sloppy play on defense. Not a lot of offense ... but enough. Hoping Holliday is coming out of his slump ... that boy is streaky. Overall, enjoyed this one much more than last night. Negatives? We're hitting into too many double plays. And, Busch is starting to warm up ... mid 80's all night and not much of breeze.

06-20-2013, 05:50 AM	#12
688sonarmen Shipmate! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Jake Location: Norwich, Ct Posts: 2,698 Trading: (17)	Re: St Louis Cardinals Fans Sound Off! It was good to see Westbrook get a W. there should have been more double plays but the Cubs defense like the Cards was a little sloppy. I was really surprised to see M Carpenters. Also Yaddi has not been himself on defense lately. But a W is a W!

06-21-2013, 06:39 AM	#13
qwerty1500 Good thing I'm normal Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: One Particular Harbor Posts: 607 Trading: (0)	Re: St Louis Cardinals Fans Sound Off! Is it possible that Lynn "un-imploded?" I didn't see any of this game ... had to work ... but listened to the 8th and 9th innings on the way home. From the box score and what I've heard, it sounds like Lynn had his game going. However, only 6 innings and 90+ pitches ... 3 hits, 6 strike-outs and only 2 walks ... sounds like he had to work for every out. Holliday was 2 for 4 with a HR ... slump seems gone ... for now. Still a little concerned about the DP's. Hit into 2 and one was a rally killer. Tonight, they're matching up Lyons against the Rangers. Hope that works out ...

06-21-2013, 08:09 AM	#14
688sonarmen Shipmate! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Jake Location: Norwich, Ct Posts: 2,698 Trading: (17)	Re: St Louis Cardinals Fans Sound Off! Lynn was pitching vs the Cubs, lol! Maybe he just was a little uneasy for a few games. Not sure how the Rangers are doing this year but it should be interesting!

06-22-2013, 12:26 PM	#18
The Poet Il megglior fabbro Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Thomas Location: Hickory, NC Posts: 8,420 Trading: (2)	Re: St Louis Cardinals Fans Sound Off! So what's this story about Matt Holliday hitting a dinger with his dong out? I thought you could only be swinging ONE bat atta time! __________________ Ninety percent of everything is crap - Theodore Sturgeon.

06-22-2013, 05:19 PM	#19
688sonarmen Shipmate! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Jake Location: Norwich, Ct Posts: 2,698 Trading: (17)	Re: St Louis Cardinals Fans Sound Off! Blacked out on MLBTV and flipping Baughston is on FOX, FML!

06-22-2013, 05:55 PM	#20
688sonarmen Shipmate! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Jake Location: Norwich, Ct Posts: 2,698 Trading: (17)	Re: St Louis Cardinals Fans Sound Off! Lol! Just saw this, Matt Cs reaction in the dugout is classic!