&)@#&(^$ !!!! I'm soo MAD!!!

[BHalbrooks]

I threw up a little in my mouth
Sorry bro.

[688sonarmen]

Boo sorry to hear this. But **** happens. I would put it in a drawer or closet out of sight pick a cigar and relax. Then see if something can be done about it.

[chaase321]

Originally Posted by 688sonarmen

Boo sorry to hear this. But **** happens. I would put it in a drawer or closet out of sight pick a cigar and relax. Then see if something can be done about it.

Wise words Jake

[cjhalbrooks]

I am so sorry brother.

[BHalbrooks]

Originally Posted by Lockspur

Already replied in the MAW thread. Cole, I got a few on your list. Outbound tomorrow.

Very nice gesture Scooter

[emopunker2004]

That sucks. One of the many reasons I hate USPS. Unfortunately no insurance=your problem not theirs basically.

[markem]

I see that no one yet has suggested that you call the local post office, speak to the postmaster, and ask what options you may have.

So I won't suggest that either.

[chaase321]

Originally Posted by markem

I see that no one yet has suggested that you call the local post office, speak to the postmaster, and ask what options you may have.

So I won't suggest that either.

Oh Mark, you wise FOG Thanks bro, will do

[AdamJoshua]

Originally Posted by markem

I see that no one yet has suggested that you call the local post office, speak to the postmaster, and ask what options you may have.

So I won't suggest that either.

I haven't heard that you can't ship cigars, it's not one of the questions they ask when you ship (verbally ask), if you received a damaged package in the mail you can bring the package and contents to the local post office to fill out a claim, you will need to provide proof of value etc., but as long as you have the box and all packing material take it down to the post office and they will help you out.

[OLS]

I will tell you another thing about "insurance". I thought I was doing my clientele a favor by heavily insuring packages
bound for them. But if you think you will ever get reimbursement for something you do not have receipts on, or worse,
something 'illegal' in the eyes of the USPS, then you might as well cross your fingers, turn around three times and jump,
cause you are screwed any other way. Not only have I stopped insuring packages, I have stopped SHIPPING them, too.
If you enter a system where you can't win, where the cards are all in the hands of the house, you are a fool to play.
Took me almost ten years of wasting money on insurance to find this out the hard way. And so did my 'client'. Bottom
line is, you get the exact same treatment whether you insure or not....you get NOTHING. So why insure?

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by OLS

I will tell you another thing about "insurance". I thought I was doing my clientele a favor by heavily insuring packages
bound for them. But if you think you will ever get reimbursement for something you do not have receipts on, or worse,
something 'illegal' in the eyes of the USPS, then you might as well cross your fingers, turn around three times and jump,
cause you are screwed any other way. Not only have I stopped insuring packages, I have stopped SHIPPING them, too.
If you enter a system where you can't win, where the cards are all in the hands of the house, you are a fool to play.
Took me almost ten years of wasting money on insurance to find this out the hard way. And so did my 'client'. Bottom
line is, you get the exact same treatment whether you insure or not....you get NOTHING. So why insure?

Excellent point about insurance as long as your 'client' gets what he paid for.

[big_jaygee]

Sucks about to hear about the cigars bro I hope the USPS can do something about it.

[pnoon]

If the shipper purchased insurance, it is the shippers responsibility to pursue a claim with the PO. Anyone who tells you otherwise if full of $hit.

Also, if this were not a MAW/PIF and was a monetary transaction (WTS) then the onus is on the seller to make sure the goods are delivered as expected. Is it the shipper's/seller's fault for the damage? Of course not. But it IS their responsibility to make sure that goods were provided to the buyer for something they accepted money for.

[chaase321]

Originally Posted by pnoon

If the shipper purchased insurance, it is the shippers responsibility to pursue a claim with the PO. Anyone who tells you otherwise if full of $hit.

Also, if this were not a MAW/PIF and was a monetary transaction (WTS) then the onus is on the seller to make sure the goods are delivered as expected. Is it the shipper's/seller's fault for the damage? Of course not. But it IS their responsibility to make sure that goods were provided to the buyer for something they accepted money for.

Agreed Peter Being that it is a MAW, I'm not too terribly worried about it because I know I didn't pay for something (well, other than the sticks I sent). And even it was a WTS, being that we are all brothers here, I probably wouldn't pursue unless it was a vendor/retailer on here. But the difference between MAW and WTS is definitely noted.

[equetefue]

This blows. Sorry to hear bro. Like others have mention, don't think there is much that can be done

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by equetefue

This blows. Sorry to hear bro. Like others have mention, don't think there is much that can be done

There may not be any recourse from USPS.
But if I were the sender, I would send another package. That's the way I've been treated and that is the way I would treat others.
My YMMV

[equetefue]

I agree with you Peter

[hotreds]

As someone who does a TON of business with the USPS, let me say that happily this does not happen often. That being said, there is nothing the USPS can or will do for you except commiserate. Brad is correct, insuring does little if the package is lost or damaged unless you have a picture of the item with a price next to it- like from a catalog. Then, maybe you'd get some redress. But, you've heard the expression: "slower than molasses in wintertime?"

Peter is correct: the BOTL here who sent you this will likely make good on it- heck, I would if I had these stix!

Tough luck, and extremely annoying, I know! I once got a book that appeared to have been left to soak in diesel oil. Yummy!

I'm sure you'll get your MAW one way or t'other, brother!

[chaase321]

Originally Posted by pnoon

There may not be any recourse from USPS.
But if I were the sender, I would send another package. That's the way I've been treated and that is the way I would treat others.
My YMMV

Originally Posted by equetefue

I agree with you Peter

Originally Posted by hotreds

As someone who does a TON of business with the USPS, let me say that happily this does not happen often. That being said, there is nothing the USPS can or will do for you except commiserate. Brad is correct, insuring does little if the package is lost or damaged unless you have a picture of the item with a price next to it- like from a catalog. Then, maybe you'd get some redress. But, you've heard the expression: "slower than molasses in wintertime?"

Peter is correct: the BOTL here who sent you this will likely make good on it- heck, I would if I had these stix!

Tough luck, and extremely annoying, I know! I once got a book that appeared to have been left to soak in diesel oil. Yummy!

I'm sure you'll get your MAW one way or t'other, brother!

Not what I'm looking for gents. I was just voicing my frustration, and I appreciate you all taking the time to hear it. It wasn't a sale, so I don't want the sender to feel obligated in any way.

[big_jaygee]

Well Cole I looked at the sticks damaged/destroyed and I looked at your MAW list and I dont have anything that matches your list. Do you have anything else you might want or willing to try?