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Old 10-19-2012, 07:55 AM   #1
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Default Re: Anyone have issues with the Liga No.9?

Sometimes you have to make a write-off. It's a handmade cigar. Not every cigar will be smokeable. Write it off, smoke another one.
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Old 10-19-2012, 08:22 AM   #2
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Default Re: Anyone have issues with the Liga No.9?

Chris, sorry you had an issue with your stick.....I haven't had any problems with them, like all the others said 1 stick isn't going to make the whole line bad and as Peter said this is a hand made product, things happen.....it's the nature of the beast.

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Old 10-19-2012, 04:58 PM   #3
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Default Re: Anyone have issues with the Liga No.9?

Every cigar smoker should have a draw tool. It really is as simple as that.

I've "saved" cigars worth hundreds of dollars with one $15 tool, which I keep in my travel box all the time.
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Old 10-19-2012, 05:11 PM   #4
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Default Re: Anyone have issues with the Liga No.9?

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Every cigar smoker should have a draw tool. It really is as simple as that.

I've "saved" cigars worth hundreds of dollars with one $15 tool, which I keep in my travel box all the time.

I use a Havana Saver for the majority of my cigars because I'm a nubber! And it works as a draw tool as well. I have the Iron Cross model.

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Old 10-19-2012, 07:14 PM   #5
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Default Re: Anyone have issues with the Liga No.9?

Where do you guys purchase these from? I'll Google around later.

Edit - Think I might grab this guy

http://www.ebay.com/itm/United-State...item4ab4ea1f7c

or this

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Old 10-19-2012, 11:51 PM   #6
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Where do you guys purchase these from? I'll Google around later.

Edit - Think I might grab this guy

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PM Forrest (Golfnut). He makes some nice draw tools.
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Old 10-20-2012, 12:04 AM   #7
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PM Forrest (Golfnut). He makes some nice draw tools.
This. Slickster81 also makes a nice draw tool.
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Old 10-20-2012, 12:24 AM   #8
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I've been quite pleased with the draw tool that I got from Troy ("Boom").
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Old 10-21-2012, 12:30 PM   #9
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Default Re: Anyone have issues with the Liga No.9?

All the DE cigars I've had were exquisite, never had any issues like those mentioned above. Johnathan and Steve hold it down.. I'm sure if you e-mailed them they'd work to fix the issue..

With that being said: I feel that'd probably be bad form to e-mail a company over something like that. Sorry to be so late to the discussion - I'm just a newb. <3

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Old 10-21-2012, 12:37 PM   #10
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Default Re: Anyone have issues with the Liga No.9?

The last one I smoked was sub par at best but as stated earlier, they are handmade and have the possibility of not living up to expectations. I certainly wouldn't email or call DE or the B & M because of it. Stuff happens.
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Default Re: Anyone have issues with the Liga No.9?

Have been fortunate enough to have never had a single issue with a No. 9. Other than I never can have enough of them.
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:51 PM   #12
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Default Re: Anyone have issues with the Liga No.9?

The only issue I've had with the Liga stuff is when they run out

While I personally wouldn't ask to have it replaced due to the hand made nature of the product, I have no doubt if you asked, DE would replace it. Jonathan Drew and the rest of DE take quality control VERY seriously. JD routinely posts on reddit in r/cigars and always offers to replace sticks that have construction issues. Just one of the reasons I love supporting them.
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:40 AM   #13
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The only issue I've had with the Liga stuff is when they run out

While I personally wouldn't ask to have it replaced due to the hand made nature of the product, I have no doubt if you asked, DE would replace it. Jonathan Drew and the rest of DE take quality control VERY seriously. JD routinely posts on reddit in r/cigars and always offers to replace sticks that have construction issues. Just one of the reasons I love supporting them.
+1. In fact, I'd go so far as to suggest that maybe JD and Steve have a small backfire on their hands. They've been so gracious and public about immediately trying to satisfy customers who've had a bad stick....maybe just my overactive imagination, but I suspect we see more posts (on all forums) taking DE to task for bad singles. A cynic would say that some may be more likely to announce a bad experience for attention or replacements from them. I am NOT passing judgement on OP here - just an observation in general after following numerous forums. Really.
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:32 AM   #14
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+1. In fact, I'd go so far as to suggest that maybe JD and Steve have a small backfire on their hands. They've been so gracious and public about immediately trying to satisfy customers who've had a bad stick....maybe just my overactive imagination, but I suspect we see more posts (on all forums) taking DE to task for bad singles. A cynic would say that some may be more likely to announce a bad experience for attention or replacements from them. I am NOT passing judgement on OP here - just an observation in general after following numerous forums. Really.
I would guess that DE keeps some sort of record of what they send out, but maybe not. At the end of the day, it really does not cost them much to make things right. As many have mentioned, one of their trademarks is having such good quality control to begin with.

I also like to believe that our fellow S/BOTLs are better than trying to rip off a manufacturer that goes out of their way to support the community.
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:37 AM   #15
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Bruce,
I didn't express it well, but I was thinking that they'd be 'hurt' more by the 'publicity' of repetitive posts about 'bad' cigars, than by the financial cost of being a stand-up company. I may be way off with each of my suppositions.
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Oh I gotcha.

If anything, I see it helping more than hurting. Having a manufacturer so willing to stand by their product is impressive in my mind.
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Old 10-23-2012, 07:31 PM   #17
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Default Re: Anyone have issues with the Liga No.9?

I decided to give it a shot and sent them a very friendly email. Definitely won't change my view of DE either way it turns out, but would be nice to give the No. 9 another try.
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I decided to give it a shot and sent them a very friendly email. Definitely won't change my view of DE either way it turns out, but would be nice to give the No. 9 another try.
Best of luck. Jonathan might be the better person to e-mail. Steve's a nice guy in person, but from what I've experienced -- his e-mail inbox also generates dust.
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Best of luck. Jonathan might be the better person to e-mail. Steve's a nice guy in person, but from what I've experienced -- his e-mail inbox also generates dust.
I got an email from John Brooke (jbrooke@drewestate.com) and all he did was blame it on over humidification in the ziplock bad I stored it in, and a few tips on how to store cigars. Although the recently calibrated hygrometer never peaked 66% and the other two cigars in the bag smoked perfect. I thought over humidification at first but these two points lead me to believe it wasn't that. Maybe later on down the line I'll pick another one up.

As a cheap college student, I normally don't spend more than $8-9 on a cigar so this was an exception. Ooohhhh welllll. Thanks for all the comments!
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:27 PM   #20
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Default Re: Anyone have issues with the Liga No.9?

Only problem I have with the Liga no. 9 is that there aren't more of them in my humidor.

But seriously, sounds like you got a dud. It happens. I've always had good draw and construction with the Drew Estate products I have experienced.
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