JoePa Statue coming down... - Page 2

hotreds · 07-22-2012, 01:42 PM

This is one of those situations that is simply terrible in every possible way. The best we can possibly hope for is that we are all reminded of how important it is to live life with honor and do what is right, especially when the right thing is so hard...

Yup- I agree. Hindsight is always 20/20.

manny844 · 07-22-2012, 02:00 PM

Its a shame it had to end this way. However, the statute needed to come down.

forgop · 07-22-2012, 02:12 PM

I don't know what more we need to learn about JoePa other than his personal attempt to silence this matter and trying to sweep it under the rug rather than ensuring that Sandusky was reported years ago when he first knew about the acts. His desire was to keep from harming the school/program more so than protecting the innocent kids Sandusky was taking advantage of in the shower and everywhere else.

bobarian · 07-22-2012, 02:25 PM

Calling a convicted pedophile "troubled" is like calling Charles Manson manipulative. It hardly conveys the true nature of their crimes.

Joe Pa did nothing to follow up on his initial "reporting" to the administration. In fact he actively worked to make sure the situation was minimized. He and the administrators were more concerned with the reputation of the university than the health and welfare of the children.

How many who were molested chose not to come forward? Where is the Paterno family's concern for the victims? They are talking about funding an "independent" inquiry but have donated nothing towards those who were molested.

kelmac07 · 07-22-2012, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

Calling a convicted pedophile "troubled" is like calling Charles Manson manipulative. It hardly conveys the true nature of their crimes.

Agreed, "troubled" wasn't the correct word Bob...didn't think "sick, twisted f*@&" was appropriate for the board.

LasciviousXXX · 07-22-2012, 02:52 PM

The bottom line is that Sandusky was a monster who preyed on children. Paterno's complicity in the matter makes him just as guilty IMO. His inaction resulted in further children being victimized. May both of them rot in the deepest portions of hell

icehog3 · 07-22-2012, 03:25 PM

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May both of them rot in the deepest portions of hell

Sandusky has to die before he rots in Hell. Hopefully a slow, painful death.

Sorry, I usually don't go "there" on this board, but that POS raped children. Death is too good for him.

07-22-2012, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Sandusky has to die before he rots in Hell. Hopefully a slow, painful death.

Sorry, I usually don't go "there" on this board, but that POS raped children. Death is too good for him.

Yep, Tom said it right.

mosesbotbol · 07-22-2012, 04:40 PM

The total cost to the University is going to make taking the statue down irrelevant. The fact is he lacked morality in doing what was right in the Christian sense. Yes, he did what was required, but considering heinous nature of what his staff did; it was not enough.

Paterno's actions are not nearly as bad as the Chancellors, for which they should be punished legally. The University is going to lose tens of millions of dollars over this and think of the innocent children who were harmed.

When Chancellors from PA’s other Universities heard what Penn did, they were beside themselves and rightly so.

Perhaps over time there will be healing and his statue won’t represent something so gross, but for right now; removing it is appropriate.

RWhisenand · 07-22-2012, 06:47 PM

Maybe they should bury the statue's head in some sand.

icehog3 · 07-22-2012, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RWhisenand

Maybe they should bury the statue's head in some sand.

Touché.

Eleven · 07-22-2012, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RWhisenand

Maybe they should bury the statue's head in some sand.

Reminds me of this:

Jasonw560 · 07-22-2012, 07:57 PM

Playing Devil's advocate for a minute.

How do we know that JoPa didn't consider taking it to the authorities, but was told not to, and that the higher-ups would take care of the problem? We may never know.

Nonetheless, Sandusky needs to be "accidentally" put in general population.

Blueface · 07-23-2012, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jasonw560

Playing Devil's advocate for a minute.

How do we know that JoPa didn't consider taking it to the authorities, but was told not to, and that the higher-ups would take care of the problem? We may never know.

Nonetheless, Sandusky needs to be "accidentally" put in general population.

If that were true, then he was more of an a..hole than we know.
Did enough years pass by for him to realize no one ever notified the authorities as no action was taken at all?
There is simply no excuse for his actions and more importantly, lack thereof.

68TriShield · 07-23-2012, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Blueface

There is simply no excuse for his actions and more importantly, lack thereof.

And no punishment will ever be harsh enough.Just ask any of those boys or their parents.
Any parent that says the punishment is too harsh really needs to understand exactly what they are saying.

14holestogie · 07-23-2012, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 68TriShield

And no punishment will ever be harsh enough.Just ask any of those boys or their parents.
Any parent that says the punishment is too harsh really needs to understand exactly what they are saying.

Flash-back to the mid-sixties when a 10 year old boy is riding his bike home and a stranger on a bike asks him to help him find his keys that somehow got lost in the bushes. The boy gets off his bike and begins to head to the bushes when all of a sudden something doesn't feel "right." He hops back on his bike and pedals as fast as he can for the 3 or 4 blocks to home, with the stranger close behind. The boy runs into the house and tells his mother immediately what had just happened and the mother jumps in the car and follows the stranger to his home, returns home and calls the police. Don't say it can't happen to your child, as it almost happened to my mother's child (me). Thankfully, we didn't have a gun in the house or the perp wouldn't have made it home. I became a star witness for my first and only time.

Guess which side I come down on.

icehog3 · 07-22-2012, 08:05 PM

Rob is funny, Sarah needs some Midol.

T.G · 07-22-2012, 08:16 PM

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Rob is funny.

Yes, yes he is.

http://www.explosm.net/comics/author/Rob/

/end threadjack

ucla695 · 07-23-2012, 11:51 AM

To me, the people who commit these type of crimes on children vs. those who harbor them is a distinction without a difference. Sandusky is disgusting and so are the people who covered up this mess.

mosesbotbol · 07-23-2012, 02:17 PM

It's going to be another 60 million by the time the civil suits against the university are settled.

07-22-2012, 01:42 PM	#1
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07-22-2012, 02:00 PM	#2
manny844 GO TIGERS Join Date: Jan 2012 First Name: Mitchell Location: Fenton, Michigan Posts: 6 Trading: (0)	Re: JoePa Statue coming down... Its a shame it had to end this way. However, the statute needed to come down. __________________ Smoke em if you got em!!

07-22-2012, 02:12 PM	#3
forgop Not a puffer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Duane Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2,869 Trading: (40)	Re: JoePa Statue coming down... I don't know what more we need to learn about JoePa other than his personal attempt to silence this matter and trying to sweep it under the rug rather than ensuring that Sandusky was reported years ago when he first knew about the acts. His desire was to keep from harming the school/program more so than protecting the innocent kids Sandusky was taking advantage of in the shower and everywhere else.

07-22-2012, 02:25 PM	#4
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: JoePa Statue coming down... Calling a convicted pedophile "troubled" is like calling Charles Manson manipulative. It hardly conveys the true nature of their crimes. Joe Pa did nothing to follow up on his initial "reporting" to the administration. In fact he actively worked to make sure the situation was minimized. He and the administrators were more concerned with the reputation of the university than the health and welfare of the children. How many who were molested chose not to come forward? Where is the Paterno family's concern for the victims? They are talking about funding an "independent" inquiry but have donated nothing towards those who were molested.

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LasciviousXXX Team of 11...Always Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Týr Location: New Orleans Posts: 4,579 Trading: (8)	Re: JoePa Statue coming down... The bottom line is that Sandusky was a monster who preyed on children. Paterno's complicity in the matter makes him just as guilty IMO. His inaction resulted in further children being victimized. May both of them rot in the deepest portions of hell

07-22-2012, 04:40 PM	#9
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: JoePa Statue coming down... The total cost to the University is going to make taking the statue down irrelevant. The fact is he lacked morality in doing what was right in the Christian sense. Yes, he did what was required, but considering heinous nature of what his staff did; it was not enough. Paterno's actions are not nearly as bad as the Chancellors, for which they should be punished legally. The University is going to lose tens of millions of dollars over this and think of the innocent children who were harmed. When Chancellors from PA’s other Universities heard what Penn did, they were beside themselves and rightly so. Perhaps over time there will be healing and his statue won’t represent something so gross, but for right now; removing it is appropriate. __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

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07-22-2012, 07:57 PM	#13
Jasonw560 PhD from Sarcastic State Join Date: Jul 2011 First Name: Jason Location: Harlingen, TX Posts: 812 Trading: (0)	Re: JoePa Statue coming down... Playing Devil's advocate for a minute. How do we know that JoPa didn't consider taking it to the authorities, but was told not to, and that the higher-ups would take care of the problem? We may never know. Nonetheless, Sandusky needs to be "accidentally" put in general population. __________________ ...And a woman is only a woman, But a good cigar is a smoke! -R. Kipling

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07-23-2012, 11:51 AM	#19
ucla695 Neither here, nor there Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Pool Posts: 3,696 Trading: (5)	Re: JoePa Statue coming down... To me, the people who commit these type of crimes on children vs. those who harbor them is a distinction without a difference. Sandusky is disgusting and so are the people who covered up this mess.

07-23-2012, 02:17 PM	#20
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: JoePa Statue coming down... It's going to be another 60 million by the time the civil suits against the university are settled. __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's