Fausto by Tatuaje

[Bill86]

I've honestly only been impressed with about 4 Tatuajes. I also find their consistency
sucks. Their prices are pretty piss poor too. Viaje's are usually all around $10-$12 making them much more affordable. Tatuaje's are quite regularly $15-$16 (all the monster series, black tubos) or they are WAY too limited. I also find Tat limiteds to be gouged horrendously while Viaje's still stay close to what people have paid. Also a good point I've only had Tatuajes wrappers burst, no other cigar has done this.

Originally Posted by Bill86

I've honestly only been impressed with about 4 Tatuajes. I also find their consistency
sucks. Their prices are pretty piss poor too. Viaje's are usually all around $10-$12 making them much more affordable. Tatuaje's are quite regularly $15-$16 (all the monster series, black tubos) or they are WAY too limited. I also find Tat limiteds to be gouged horrendously while Viaje's still stay close to what people have paid. Also a good point I've only had Tatuajes wrappers burst, no other cigar has done this.

Most of his store LE's (outlaw, anarchy, barclay rex, etc) are $10. The Pork Tenderloin was only $8.50. The Tubo's were 10-13 depending on location.

My feeling is and always will be when it comes to how many different brands or LE's he does. Many of the LE's are not full productions because of a limited amount of leaf during that crop. I'd rather see it come out and be enjoyed then never be imagined.

LE's are actually smart. He can get similar leaf in following years, and LE's give an idea of which ones people would like to see in regular production. Had the T110 flopped, you wouldn't be seeing the Fausto come out.

As for construction, I've never once had a construction issue on a tatuaje.

[maninblack]

And here we gooooooooooo.....

[Volusianator]

Just sayin', as of the last 24 months, Pete's line is becoming quite large. Not that it's a bad thing, just hoping he doesn't go overboard as Mr. Patel did.

[wayner123]

Originally Posted by Volusianator

Just sayin', as of the last 24 months, Pete's line is becoming quite large. Not that it's a bad thing, just hoping he doesn't go overboard as Mr. Patel did.

Did you enjoy Rocky Patel cigars before he went overboard?

[Volusianator]

Originally Posted by wayner123

Did you enjoy Rocky Patel cigars before he went overboard?

When I first started smoking I enjoyed the Vintage series, still will have a sungrown if one falls in my lap, but I won't buy them. So basically, no, not for many years have I enjoyed RP stuff.

[wayner123]

Originally Posted by Volusianator

When I first started smoking I enjoyed the Vintage series, still will have a sungrown if one falls in my lap, but I won't buy them. So basically, no, not for many years have I enjoyed RP stuff.

So was that an evolution of your own tastes or his production quality?

[Volusianator]

Originally Posted by wayner123

So was that an evolution of your own tastes or his production quality?

Evolution of taste for sure, my liking of his products wained well before he started his "new line of the week" theory.

Don't get me wrong, I know Pete, love the guy, hell, I have his cell number in my phone and we talk/text from time to time. I respect the hell out of the guy and love his products, it just worries me sometimes that things are getting stretched a bit thin.

[neoflex]

Originally Posted by wayner123

So was that an evolution of your own tastes or his production quality?

I'll chime in on the RP thing since I used to really like what RP had to offer but I think his consistency is just non existent lately. Again just my opinion but I think he has too many lines going on at once and the consistency of his lines suffer from it. What I usually tell guys is if you find a Rocky stick you like load up on as many boxes as your budget allows as it may be very likely that it will be a different animal in a few months. There is no need to introduce so many lines in a short period of time to stay relevent. I think to stay on top in the industry you need to find a happy medium. Too few new lines/blends people will lose interest. Introduce too many in a short span and some people will get pissed. I think a manufacturer needs to find a middle ground to keep both sides happy.
At least when talking about Pete he always offers a high quality stick that most of the masses enjoy and being limited on most the consistency is a moot point because it's a short run and so far the staple lines have not seemed to be effected. Let's hope he or Pepin don't allow things to get to a RP point which I doubt as Pete seems to passionate about his craft to let the staple lines go to hell. It does get frustrating always being in the hunt but it is what it is and rather than let it get you annoyed too much you can just do what I have done with his stuff and stop going nuts trying to hunt down every new LE. I recently decided I would pick and choose what I would hunt down. For example the SODO sparked zero interest from me as it was said to be a shorter OR El Triundafor. Got plenty of those so no need to hunt down a shorter stick priced almost the same as the full size. At one point I got kind of annoyed at the constant release of LEs but life is too short to let the small stuff in life bug you. Just pick and choose what you want to get. Yes it would be nice to have them all but sometimes you just have to draw the line and that line will be different for everyone dependent on budget.

[muhren]

NSFW - "Jizzed in my pants" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLnWf1sQkjY



Some love. Some hate.

M

[Volusianator]

Originally Posted by muhren

NSFW - "Jizzed in my pants" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLnWf1sQkjY



Some love. Some hate.

M

LOL, love it here, got it on my iPod.

I have not heard of this one either, but I have not had a bad stick from Tat!
I am certainly curious.

[Silound]

For the record, anyone with the cash can get a personally blended special release for their B&M. As I recall, the minimum order is either 200 box25 or 250 box20 (5000 cigars either way).

We passed when it was brought up by our rep, mostly because it's a purely cash up front deal, and the owner wasn't quite sure he could sell them all.

[muhren]

Originally Posted by Silound

For the record, anyone with the cash can get a personally blended special release for their B&M. As I recall, the minimum order is either 200 box25 or 250 box20 (5000 cigars either way).

We passed when it was brought up by our rep, mostly because it's a purely cash up front deal, and the owner wasn't quite sure he could sell them all.

This is Tatuaje or diff. company?

M

[Silound]

Originally Posted by muhren

This is Tatuaje or diff. company?

M

That would be Tatuaje, via the family that reps for them in our area.


Yes, it's anywhere between a $25,000-50,000 undertaking for that cigar, but if it were publicized on forums such as these, I doubt seriously if it would take more than 6 months to sell all 200 or 250 boxes The first 20-50 boxes would piece out 2-3 or 5 at a time and the other boxes would be a rush to get one before they sold out.

[pinotguy]

Originally Posted by Silound

That would be Tatuaje, via the family that reps for them in our area.


Yes, it's anywhere between a $25,000-50,000 undertaking for that cigar, but if it were publicized on forums such as these, I doubt seriously if it would take more than 6 months to sell all 200 or 250 boxes The first 20-50 boxes would piece out 2-3 or 5 at a time and the other boxes would be a rush to get one before they sold out.

You may not have the definitive answer but I'd be interested to know how much involvement the shop/owner has in the blending of their respective LE stick, once it's been commissioned. If I shelled out that much coin, you better believe I would want to be calling a lot of the shots on the shape/vitola, marketing, packaging, and the tobaccos being used.

[Silound]

Originally Posted by pinotguy

You may not have the definitive answer but I'd be interested to know how much involvement the shop/owner has in the blending of their respective LE stick, once it's been commissioned. If I shelled out that much coin, you better believe I would want to be calling a lot of the shots on the shape/vitola, marketing, packaging, and the tobaccos being used.

I was led to believe that the buyer had all the say in the world in what they got. We opted not to try that road simply because of the estimated price per stick after taxes kicked in.

[Bill86]

Originally Posted by Silound

For the record, anyone with the cash can get a personally blended special release for their B&M. As I recall, the minimum order is either 200 box25 or 250 box20 (5000 cigars either way).

We passed when it was brought up by our rep, mostly because it's a purely cash up front deal, and the owner wasn't quite sure he could sell them all.

That's still roughly $50,000 - $75,000. The whole thing is a crapshoot anyways all it's going to do is give you 150-200 online orders you'll have to fill and ship. Less than 50 of those boxes will be going locally. Unless you only sell them locally and then they'll be sitting on the shelf unless people buy them and ship them for their friends. Doesn't get you any more exposure then you had before.

[colimo]

Originally Posted by Starz26

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=40953

All sold out now though

damn...how did i miss this...i want some!!

[wayner123]

Originally Posted by Bill86

That's still roughly $50,000 - $75,000. The whole thing is a crapshoot anyways all it's going to do is give you 150-200 online orders you'll have to fill and ship. Less than 50 of those boxes will be going locally. Unless you only sell them locally and then they'll be sitting on the shelf unless people buy them and ship them for their friends. Doesn't get you any more exposure then you had before.

I don't know, I still remember the name Puff and Stuff.