Aging Beer? - Page 2

Bill86 · 11-15-2010, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hammondc

Imperial Stouts and Porters age exceptionally well. I have a vertical collection of Brooklyn BCS for 5 years back now.

This, Stouts are PERFECT for aging.

Yeah you wouldn't age an IPA.

Jbailey · 11-15-2010, 07:46 PM

Been drinking all my IPAs I have lately. I got a few Founders Devil Dancers left and a few bombers of Three Floyds Arctic Panzer Wolf. Damn good stuff!

11-15-2010, 07:54 PM

I have been drinking a lot of IPA's and pale ales lately. Mostly stuff from Bell's, Founders, and DFH. I can really tell a difference in taste from a fresh bottle and one that I have had for a week or two.

icehog3 · 11-15-2010, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

I have been drinking a lot of IPA's and pale ales lately. Mostly stuff from Bell's, Founders, and DFH. I can really tell a difference in taste from a fresh bottle and one that I have had for a week or two.

I would hardly consider two weeks to be "aging", Nate.

11-15-2010, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

I would hardly consider two weeks to be "aging", Nate.

Yeah I know

My point was the fresher the better for IPA's and pale ales. The hops used in IPA's lose a lot of character very quickly.

icehog3 · 11-15-2010, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

Yeah I know

My point was the fresher the better for IPA's and pale ales.

T.G · 12-12-2010, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

I would hardly consider two weeks to be "aging", Nate.

How about three weeks?

icehog3 · 12-12-2010, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G

How about three weeks?

It is the Rule of 3s.

12-17-2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

I have been drinking a lot of IPA's and pale ales lately. Mostly stuff from Bell's, Founders, and DFH. I can really tell a difference in taste from a fresh bottle and one that I have had for a week or two.

Lost the battle of will power, huh, after 2 whole weeks

I've got a lot of beer and most age pretty well, except for IPAs. I really will give them 6 months max and then I restock.

Lumpold · 11-15-2010, 08:03 PM

Beers that age well in bottles are the ones designed to age well in bottles! Most Belgian breweries will decant beers into casks or bottles, and then age them further, leaving an amount of yeast in the bottles to continue 'conditioning' the beer.

Bill86 · 11-15-2010, 08:19 PM

Tom's right, unless you're getting your IPAs straight from the brewery.......even then who knows how long they sit. Now I got my Dreadnaught from the Three Floyds Brewery and it was the best thing ever at least IPA wise that I have tasted.

IMO aging = 1 year +. NOTE I did not say fully aged, for that you need 3 years

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xlc12rf · 11-15-2010, 08:21 PM

One of the most drastic changes I've tasted was Black Ops. A year on the bottle, brought the beer from 'good' to 'sell my soul - worthy'.

The only IPA I've had that was better with some age was 120 min.. and that isn't exactly a traditional IPA.

Aging right now I have some black ops, Brooklyn BCS, Bigfoot, Old school, Old Horizontal, WWS, Vertical Epics, IRS, Stout Trooper, Mosnter, Storm King, Double Bastard. That's all i can remember off the top of my head.

hammondc · 11-16-2010, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by xlc12rf

The only IPA I've had that was better with some age was 120 min.. and that isn't exactly a traditional IPA.

Aging right now I have some black ops, Brooklyn BCS, Bigfoot, Old school, Old Horizontal, WWS, Vertical Epics, IRS, Stout Trooper, Mosnter, Storm King, Double Bastard. That's all i can remember off the top of my head.

Beat me to it on 120 Min. Good collection going there. I have a few years of Bigfoot and Storm King. Just 2 years of Stone IRS though. THAT is probably my favorite stout. Never had WWS though. I have not seen it here in TX. I can usually get lots of 120 min, but no WWS.

xlc12rf · 11-16-2010, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by hammondc

Beat me to it on 120 Min. Good collection going there. I have a few years of Bigfoot and Storm King. Just 2 years of Stone IRS though. THAT is probably my favorite stout. Never had WWS though. I have not seen it here in TX. I can usually get lots of 120 min, but no WWS.

I have some available locally if you want me to ship it.

Sauer Grapes · 11-26-2010, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by hammondc

Beat me to it on 120 Min. Good collection going there. I have a few years of Bigfoot and Storm King. Just 2 years of Stone IRS though. THAT is probably my favorite stout. Never had WWS though. I have not seen it here in TX. I can usually get lots of 120 min, but no WWS.

You aren't missing much with WWS IMO. I've never been a fan, and I do like my share of imperial stouts. WWS just tastes like stout flavored hard liquor.

Bill86 · 11-15-2010, 08:30 PM

I don't age beers, I drink them. I want to age them....but they are so tasty.....never happens. Someday I'll age a bunch of Imperial Stouts.

BlackDog · 11-15-2010, 09:04 PM

Regarding CWS oroginal post, Founder's Breakfast Stout is a coffee stout. Coffee stouts do not age well. The coffee fades.

However, many high abv beers do age well. The criteria for the "best" beers to age are that they are: 1) High ABV; 2) Do not depend upon fresh hop aromas for their flavor; and 3) Are bottle conditioned and not pasturized.

11-16-2010, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackDog

Regarding CWS oroginal post, Founder's Breakfast Stout is a coffee stout. Coffee stouts do not age well. The coffee fades.

However, many high abv beers do age well. The criteria for the "best" beers to age are that they are: 1) High ABV; 2) Do not depend upon fresh hop aromas for their flavor; and 3) Are bottle conditioned and not pasturized.

Yeah the coffee flavors definitly were faded. The body was thinnner as well.

I have some beers in mind of what I might want to age. Bell's Expedition Stout, Founders Imperial Stout, Goose Island BCS, and maybe some St. Bernardus or Chimay.

LostAbbott · 11-15-2010, 09:07 PM

I have about 10 beers aging right now one is a barley wine from 2005. Two are octoberfests from 2007 and 08. Then I have some bourbon barrel ages stuff porter and stout that both have a about two years on them. I tend or only age high alcohol content thick or dark ales. Anything else gets drunk fast.

sobranie10 · 11-15-2010, 10:41 PM

This is the whole process in detail for Scotch making and why It stops aging when bottled.

http://www.whisky-distilleries.info/...ation_EN.shtml

11-15-2010, 07:46 PM	#2
Jbailey Brewcifer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dave Location: Madison, WI Posts: 5,218 Trading: (17)	Re: Aging Beer? Been drinking all my IPAs I have lately. I got a few Founders Devil Dancers left and a few bombers of Three Floyds Arctic Panzer Wolf. Damn good stuff! __________________ "Sent to spy on a Cuban talent show first stop- Havana au go-go." Field Marshall Douche Bag.

11-15-2010, 07:54 PM	#3
ChicagoWhiteSox Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Aging Beer? I have been drinking a lot of IPA's and pale ales lately. Mostly stuff from Bell's, Founders, and DFH. I can really tell a difference in taste from a fresh bottle and one that I have had for a week or two.

11-15-2010, 08:03 PM	#10
Lumpold Hippy Fascist Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Lumpy Location: UK Posts: 598 Trading: (3)	Re: Aging Beer? Beers that age well in bottles are the ones designed to age well in bottles! Most Belgian breweries will decant beers into casks or bottles, and then age them further, leaving an amount of yeast in the bottles to continue 'conditioning' the beer. __________________ TAMF,PPAB,ETWWWUTL,LITMPTYCL

11-15-2010, 08:19 PM	#11
Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: Aging Beer? Tom's right, unless you're getting your IPAs straight from the brewery.......even then who knows how long they sit. Now I got my Dreadnaught from the Three Floyds Brewery and it was the best thing ever at least IPA wise that I have tasted. IMO aging = 1 year +. NOTE I did not say fully aged, for that you need 3 years .

11-15-2010, 08:21 PM	#12
xlc12rf Still Watching My Back Join Date: Aug 2010 First Name: Jay Location: Connecticut Posts: 132 Trading: (3)	Re: Aging Beer? One of the most drastic changes I've tasted was Black Ops. A year on the bottle, brought the beer from 'good' to 'sell my soul - worthy'. The only IPA I've had that was better with some age was 120 min.. and that isn't exactly a traditional IPA. Aging right now I have some black ops, Brooklyn BCS, Bigfoot, Old school, Old Horizontal, WWS, Vertical Epics, IRS, Stout Trooper, Mosnter, Storm King, Double Bastard. That's all i can remember off the top of my head.

11-15-2010, 08:30 PM	#16
Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: Aging Beer? I don't age beers, I drink them. I want to age them....but they are so tasty.....never happens. Someday I'll age a bunch of Imperial Stouts.

11-15-2010, 09:04 PM	#17
BlackDog Gonna make you groove... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Warren Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 2,468 Trading: (19)	Re: Aging Beer? Regarding CWS oroginal post, Founder's Breakfast Stout is a coffee stout. Coffee stouts do not age well. The coffee fades. However, many high abv beers do age well. The criteria for the "best" beers to age are that they are: 1) High ABV; 2) Do not depend upon fresh hop aromas for their flavor; and 3) Are bottle conditioned and not pasturized. __________________ "We live in the good of this."

11-15-2010, 09:07 PM	#19
LostAbbott Have My Own Room Join Date: Aug 2010 First Name: Mychal Location: Seattle Posts: 1,165 Trading: (23)	Re: Aging Beer? I have about 10 beers aging right now one is a barley wine from 2005. Two are octoberfests from 2007 and 08. Then I have some bourbon barrel ages stuff porter and stout that both have a about two years on them. I tend or only age high alcohol content thick or dark ales. Anything else gets drunk fast. __________________ Damn I got a lot of smokes I need to try.

11-15-2010, 10:41 PM	#20
sobranie10 Living the Dream Join Date: Feb 2010 First Name: ron Location: MI Posts: 221 Trading: (0)	Re: Aging Beer? This is the whole process in detail for Scotch making and why It stops aging when bottled. http://www.whisky-distilleries.info/...ation_EN.shtml