What Mc Donald's is feeding you...

[Subvet642]

Originally Posted by looking for know

Meh, what's a little ammonia injected beef-like parts? If you swallow your chew spit, it'll clean your whole system.

Not "beef-like"; if it comes from the cow, it's beef.

Yum?

[Subvet642]

Originally Posted by Darrell

Yum?

Yum.

Ehh i knew somethin wasnt right with this stuff. id doesnt even fill me up i dont know why i got there occasionally.

[md4958]

The company, Beef Products Inc., had been looking to expand into the hamburger business with a product made from beef that included fatty trimmings the industry once relegated to pet food and cooking oil. The trimmings were particularly susceptible to contamination, but a study commissioned by the company showed that the ammonia process would kill E. coli as well as salmonella.

Officials at the United States Department of Agriculture endorsed the company’s ammonia treatment, and have said it destroys E. coli “to an undetectable level.” They decided it was so effective that in 2007, when the department began routine testing of meat used in hamburger sold to the general public, they exempted Beef Products.

With the U.S.D.A.’s stamp of approval, the company’s processed beef has become a mainstay in America’s hamburgers. McDonald’s, Burger King and other fast-food giants use it as a component in ground beef, as do grocery chains. The federal school lunch program used an estimated 5.5 million pounds of the processed beef last year alone.

So basically its in cooking oil, supermarket ground beef, and public school lunches. Why is McDonalds being thrown under the bus for using it?

Originally Posted by md4958

So basically its in cooking oil, supermarket ground beef, and public school lunches. Why is McDonalds being thrown under the bus for using it?

Because if it said that no one would read the story or this thread?

[BlackDog]

I haul about 1.5 million pounds of beef a week from Cargill for my company. The sanitary testing is very stringent. My trucks are regularly delayed because product has been held up for USDA testing. Even though a beef recall makes big news it happens incredibly infrequently when you consider the volume of beef produced annually. The USA butchers over 300,000,000 cattle annually. Being a natural product, there are inherent risks with contamination. You've all seen farms at one time or another. They're dirty. Some of that dirt/mud/feces/urine muck that cattle walk in is gong to occasionally make it into the food chain. Our food production and distribution systems are the cleanest in the history of mankind. The use of ammonia is not a problem. The problem is that Beef Products was exempted from testing and recall.

By the way, do you guys realize that the chickens you buy, even the organic free range ones, are washed in bleach after they're butchered?

"With the U.S.D.A.’s stamp of approval, the company’s processed beef has become a mainstay in America’s hamburgers. McDonald’s, Burger King and other fast-food giants use it as a component in ground beef, as do grocery chains. The federal school lunch program used an estimated 5.5 million pounds of the processed beef last year alone"

It's not just McDonalds.

Stopped eating fast food (with rare exception) in the late '90's and have ground beef and pork at home for nearly as long. The wife has bought ground beef at the market from time to time. After reading this that will not happen again.

[looking for know]

Bring on Soylent Green.

[T.G]

Ammonia treated ground up meat scraps would have been preferable to the crap turned out by the "cooks" on some of the ships I've been on...

[Subvet642]

Originally Posted by T.G

Ammonia treated ground up meat scraps would have been preferable to the crap turned out by the "cooks" on some of the ships I've been on...

That's the great part of being on a sub; I heard a guy in the chow line actually say: "What, steak and shrimp, again!?"

[T.G]

Originally Posted by Subvet642

That's the great part of being on a sub; I heard a guy in the chow line actually say: "What, steak and shrimp, again!?"

Yeah, but you have to give up daylight, elbow room and fresh air for 30-90 days at a time for those kind of meals. Not knocking it, just not really an attractive trade off to me.

[Subvet642]

Originally Posted by T.G

Yeah, but you have to give up daylight, elbow room and fresh air for 30-90 days at a time for those kind of meals. Not knocking it, just not really an attractive trade off to me.

Fair enough! The way I figured it, though, if Ivan can't find you, Ivan can't shoot you. You guys probably got Liberty ports too, I'll bet. What was that like? For us it was 72 days at a time submerged, no Libs, no daylight, no women. Patrol was drag, but I'm glad I did it.

[T.G]

Originally Posted by Subvet642

Fair enough! The way I figured it, though, if Ivan can't find you, Ivan can't shoot you. You guys probably got Liberty ports too, I'll bet. What was that like? For us it was 72 days at a time submerged, no Libs, no daylight, no women. Patrol was drag, but I'm glad I did it.

Find us? FIND US? Hell, if we heard that Ivan was even possibly in the area, we'd start running the other way at flank speed. Supply ships aren't exactly known for being very good at shooting back....

As for what liberty ports are like - see my earlier partial sea story about getting thrown out of a soju tent in Chinhae.

[Montano]

Originally Posted by Subvet642

That's the great part of being on a sub; I heard a guy in the chow line actually say: "What, steak and shrimp, again!?"

I heard some scary stories about the goings on onboard a sub. Made me glad I was on a Gator Freighter.

[Subvet642]

Originally Posted by Montano

I heard some scary stories about the goings on onboard a sub. Made me glad I was on a Gator Freighter.

Scary how?

[Montano]

Originally Posted by Subvet642

Scary how?

Brokeback Mountain scary. But it looks like the OP isn't happy with us, so I digress.

[T.G]

Yeah, Nick is right, we probably ought to let the OP have his thread back.

[Starscream]

Originally Posted by kydsid

Approved in 2007. As an insider that doesn't shock me. It also won't shock me when in a couple months it isn't approved anymore.

We're not getting political are we, Jason?

Originally Posted by floydpink

If there is anything better than a McRib sandwich, can someone please point it out to me?

I love me some McRib. When the McRib is around is about the only time I hit up McDonalds (although I went to Mickey D's twice today while on a ten hour drive).

[Salvelinus]

Just one more reason to avoid. The niece and two nephews get so mad at me when they come by because I won't let them eat there. We have to drive by 3 on the way from their place to mine. Thinking about blindfolding them next time.