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Old 09-28-2009, 05:11 AM   #1
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I have a few friends that are in the sand now, thats a good idea. I seen the troops forum here and I seen a few guys send sticks to them.

And yeah I will have to pull the gun pnoon like you said...
If you were paying attention,you would have seen a damn site more than "a few guys send sticks" to them.

It is the biggest and most important ongoing operation going on here.

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Old 09-28-2009, 07:50 AM   #2
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/\ Relax haha, I never clicked on those links much because I dont have any to send myself. SO I never took interest in reading them until I was able to send some.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:04 AM   #3
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/\ Relax haha, I never clicked on those links much because I dont have any to send myself. SO I never took interest in reading them until I was able to send some.
Brilliant. Talk smack to an admin. That should get you far.

Read more. Post less. Take some time to learn about what this place is all about.


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Heed this advice, it's helped me tremendously.
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:39 AM   #5
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Brilliant. Talk smack to an admin. That should get you far.

Read more. Post less. Take some time to learn about what this place is all about.


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I wasnt talking smack, and why would I read on something I'm not going to partake in? crazy huh
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:41 AM   #6
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why would I read on something I'm not going to partake in?
To get educated. crazy huh
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:42 AM   #7
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To get educated. crazy huh
On sending cigars to troops? I did not have any to send, so why would I read on it. I'll read on it when I want to/can take part in it.
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:41 AM   #8
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Along with the Tampa Sweetheart #500s and Sancho Panza Double Maduro Quixotes...some of the best value maduros out there.
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Old 09-28-2009, 01:37 PM   #9
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I wasnt talking smack, and why would I read on something I'm not going to partake in? crazy huh
I think I made that clear.

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It appears that you are determined to do things your own way and ignore the advice of admins and members alike.

You have an opportunity to learn. To do so, you must listen and read. Then read some more.

A troll? I think not. But you certainly are making things more difficult for yourself.
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Old 09-29-2009, 05:47 AM   #10
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/\ Relax haha, I never clicked on those links much because I dont have any to send myself. SO I never took interest in reading them until I was able to send some.
We've gathered that you don't have any to send yourself...


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Old 09-29-2009, 09:57 AM   #11
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We've gathered that you don't have any to send yourself...


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/\ I would be willing to send some when I have some to send. Like I said I have a buddy that is over there and has been for around 2 years or so. He is a marine, but does some type of special missions. He is at a SEARS (sp?) school now and has been fore the past 2 weeks.


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That's not quite what I said - I think you might be misunderstanding two entirely different situations that I was referring to, because I didn't spell everything out.

Let me explain in a bit more detail:

Color enhanced wrappers, which are naturally fermented, are one thing. I don't really know how many manufacturers engage in this practice with their cigars. To me, this isn't such a big deal, and while I'd just as soon do without it, I don't look at it as really any different than treating a wrapper with a bethune, which is a lot more common than you might think with NC cigars. Basically, naturally fermented wrappers can be splotchy, uneven, dissimilar from wrapper to wrapper - what they are doing here is making all the wrappers fairly uniform in appearance with a normally light dye coat. Aesthetics sell. Not a big deal to me, just so long as I don't end up looking like I stole Marlin Manson's lipstick (not all dye rubs/bleeds off - done right or light, it shouldn't, heavy coats are another issue...). *shrug*

Now, the maduro-matic and dying process I mentioned, this is cheating. Instead of fermenting wrappers for weeks or months, the leaves are cooked in a steam/pressure oven to darken them. What should take weeks, takes hours. They then heavily color dye the wrapper to hide the telltale sheen from the process. Think of this as going to a fancy restaurant and ordering a $25 dinner, only to have the cook open the freezer, pull out a pre-made meal, microwave it, and then transfer it from a cardboard tray to a plate and then sprinkling chopped parsley, paprika and a bit of extra cheese/gravy/sauce/whatever to try and hide the fact that it was a "TV dinner".

I can see a reputable manufacturer using dye as a bethune or as an ingredient in one, but I have a hard time believing that any reputable manufacturer would engage in maduro-matic processes.

Hope that clears things up a bit.
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Old 09-29-2009, 12:44 PM   #12
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He is a marine, but does some type of special missions. He is at a SEARS (sp?) school now and has been fore the past 2 weeks.
SERE is an acronym for Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape. Training that Marine Aircrew bubbas go to.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:25 AM   #13
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I second the Old Henry...one of the best yardies you will ever smoke
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I wasnt talking smack, and why would I read on something I'm not going to partake in? crazy huh

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On sending cigars to troops? I did not have any to send, so why would I read on it. I'll read on it when I want to/can take part in it.

Dude, you're digging yourself a grave here...
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:47 AM   #15
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:53 AM   #16
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Dude, you're digging yourself a grave here...
just quit while you are ahead bro. Just let this one die out.
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:55 AM   #17
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just quit while you are ahead bro. Just let this one die out.
This guy has been on my case since day one haha

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For the record, we are not internet tuff guys. Far from it. We are a family here and we are trying to get you to think for yourself and not have to hold your hand through every step of this hobby. Almost every question you have asked has been asked and answered many times. I think we have been very patient trying to help but there comes a time when jr. must spread his wings and fly. So fly, research (which is half the fun, imo) and have fun with this obsession of ours.
Alright I'll try.
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The administrators have to monitor every post in every thread. They've seen certain questions a million times This one can finished easily. First just let it go. Secondly keep monitoring the threads and read past threads (you will eventually is see the same questions asked several times). Finally come up with a new good question that's never been asked.
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This guy has been on my case since day one haha

Alright I'll try.
Don't flatter yourself Troll. Just keep posting to your own threads.
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Don't flatter yourself Troll.
I think that's a little harsh. The O.P. may have been a little too defensive in his earlier responses, but imo, his posts haven't risen to Troll level? I also, haven't read all of his posts on other threads, so if I'm missing a pattern… my bad.
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