Are cuban cigars really the best? - Page 2

dunng · 09-27-2009, 10:43 AM

Depends what you like... for me it's mostly Pepin or Cuban...

gnukfu · 09-28-2009, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dunng

Depends what you like... for me it's mostly Pepin or Cuban...

qwerty1500 · 09-27-2009, 10:46 AM

I know that this question is kicked around every so often. But, it is an interesting question for me right now.

Smoked CC almost exclusively for the past 2 years ... exploring what the diifferent marcas had to offer. Decided to revisit some of my old favorite NCs this past summer. I enjoyed the return and found that I still enjoy many of the cigars I used to like. In fact, I even recently ordered the first NCs I've bought in a long time (a couple of 5ers of some Tats and Cabaiguan).

There are some good NCs .... they're just different than CCs. Are CCs better? IMHO I'd have to say that CCs are richer and smoother. And, I've never found a NC that has that hard to describe CC twang. I won't go so far as to say that this makes them better ... just different.

A year ago, I would have had to say that CCs are better, hands down, no question. Now, even though I still reach for a CC most of the time, I still like the NCs I'm smoking and they will have a place in humidor.

massphatness · 09-27-2009, 10:53 AM

Smoke what you like no matter where it's from.
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09-27-2009, 10:58 AM

This is an oustanding question. It is my personal belief, based on extensive research both here and abroad, that there is no such thing as a Cuban cigar, that it is a myth create and perpetrated by the cigar elite to further their own ends

Starscream · 09-27-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Resipsa

This is an oustanding question. It is my personal belief, based on extensive research both here and abroad, that there is no such thing as a Cuban cigar, that it is a myth create and perpetrated by the cigar elite to further their own ends

The cat's out of the bag now. You weren't supposed to tell on us, Vic.

09-29-2009, 04:42 AM

better taste...higher chance of plugged stick...

Prefy · 09-27-2009, 10:58 AM

Smoke what you like...like what you smoke!

Personally from what I have smoked on either side I would have to say that I prefer Cuban Leaf.

icehog3 · 09-27-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Prefy

Smoke what you like...like what you smoke!

I prefer Cuban Leaf.

Funny how you think of what you are going to say after reading the original post....then scroll down, and someone says pretty much exactly what you were going to say.

Matt said it for me.

Prefy · 09-27-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Funny how you think of what you are going to say after reading the original post....then scroll down, and someone says pretty much exactly what you were going to say.

Matt said it for me.

Must of been all those pucks to the head

icehog3 · 09-27-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Prefy

Must of been all those pucks to the head

Me...or you?

Don Fernando · 09-27-2009, 11:01 AM

I can get Cubans legally here and they are easier to get then Non Cubans, still I smoke more Non Cubans as there is so much more to explore and there are some fabulous NC's out there, just as fabulous CC's. And there are also a lot of terrible NC's and some terrible CC's.

akumushi · 09-27-2009, 11:05 AM

I think the split is between whether you like medium bodied, spicy cigars in a small ring gauge, or thicker, more heavy bodied maduros. Lovers of the former tend to prefer CCs, lovers of the latter prefer NCs. Cuban tobacco has a richness and flavor that NCs have a hard time competing with but their construction and consistency pales in comparison to most average NCs. I personally have stopped buying NCs as the only ones I like (Padron, Tatuaje, Pepin, Illusione) are slightly more expensive than CCs. If CCs were legalized in the US and the prices jumped up to the way they are in Canada because of taxes, then I would probably find myself smoking more Tats and Illusione because they would then be cheaper. I would say that there are NCs and CCs to suit pretty much any taste and some (but not all) of the best smokes I've had are CCs, so they are definitely worth trying!

09-27-2009, 11:06 AM

I'm half Cuban but live in CA and for a time I was seeking CC's kinda for the same reason I was into Native Tribal music and Aztec dancing etc. I tried a few varieties during the last couple of years and one a very long time ago. I've never gotten one for $6 a stick as some apparently have. The best sticks I have had came from another country for MORE than $15 a stick but have been my favorite cigar ever. They are the Cohiba Siglo 2 and I loved them. The problem I find with CC's is it's been a huge amount of trouble to get in my experience to get them and half of the authenticity has to come with a grain of salt. All in all though, the CC's I've had are all as good or better than most NC's that I've had.

Ashcan Bill · 09-27-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rogerdodger

newbie here
never tried one, not sure if id apreciate it anyway.
are they much better than the $15 and up cigars than we can currently purchase?

Better?

Are they better in terms of depth, flavor and taste? In my opinion, yes.

Are they better in terms of consistent and reliable construction? In my opinion, no.

Are they a better dollar-for-dollar value? I'd say emphatically yes.

htown · 09-27-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashcan Bill

Better?

Are they better in terms of depth, flavor and taste? In my opinion, yes.

Are they better in terms of consistent and reliable construction? In my opinion, no.

Are they a better dollar-for-dollar value? I'd say emphatically yes.

What he said! Now I think I'll go smoke a Bolivar PC.

Jimbo14 · 09-27-2009, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashcan Bill

Better?

Are they better in terms of depth, flavor and taste? In my opinion, yes.

Are they better in terms of consistent and reliable construction? In my opinion, no.

Are they a better dollar-for-dollar value? I'd say emphatically yes.

I agree. NC seem to be constructed better and are more consistent. However in my opinion the flavours of CC are just alot more enjoyable.

If in doubt just try a Partagas Short.

TheTraveler · 09-27-2009, 07:27 PM

I've only had a handful of CCs but I did enjoy them.

I'd suggest setting up a personal taste test but lordy, how would you ever manage a good setup? You'd have to smoke many marcas and vitolas of both CC and NC before being able to decide for yourself which cigars compare to one another and also which you'd even enjoy smoking to compare, then lay in a supply of fivers (or more) of each, then do a side-by-side test. By the time you managed all that you'd have already answered your own question!

So I'll take the advice of the more experienced and just keep on smokin' whatever I get my hands on. CC or NC, if I hate it I'll probably never try it again. CC or NC, if I like it I'll put it on the list. If I love it I'll try to stock up.

*shrug* Seems to me the best part of this hobby (aside from meeting people, which I've yet to do) is smoking 'em and deciding. Might find that $2 NC gem or discover a deep, abiding lust for that $25 CC. You never know.

GTCanuk · 09-27-2009, 11:41 AM

yes

troutbreath · 09-27-2009, 12:19 PM

Great comments on this thread. "Better" is completely dependent upon what YOU want in a cigar.

There are very good NC's out there, and I enjoy them. The few CC's I have had have been enjoyable. Different. Also very good.

09-27-2009, 10:43 AM	#1
dunng MassHole Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: MassHole Posts: 4,719 Trading: (59)	Re: Are cuban cigars really the best? Depends what you like... for me it's mostly Pepin or Cuban... __________________ MassHole Banter

09-27-2009, 10:46 AM	#3
qwerty1500 Good thing I'm normal Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: One Particular Harbor Posts: 607 Trading: (0)	Re: Are cuban cigars really the best? I know that this question is kicked around every so often. But, it is an interesting question for me right now. Smoked CC almost exclusively for the past 2 years ... exploring what the diifferent marcas had to offer. Decided to revisit some of my old favorite NCs this past summer. I enjoyed the return and found that I still enjoy many of the cigars I used to like. In fact, I even recently ordered the first NCs I've bought in a long time (a couple of 5ers of some Tats and Cabaiguan). There are some good NCs .... they're just different than CCs. Are CCs better? IMHO I'd have to say that CCs are richer and smoother. And, I've never found a NC that has that hard to describe CC twang. I won't go so far as to say that this makes them better ... just different. A year ago, I would have had to say that CCs are better, hands down, no question. Now, even though I still reach for a CC most of the time, I still like the NCs I'm smoking and they will have a place in humidor.

09-27-2009, 10:53 AM	#4
massphatness Where's my buffaloooo ... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Vin Location: MassHolia Posts: 12,690 Trading: (206)	Re: Are cuban cigars really the best? Smoke what you like no matter where it's from. Posted via Mobile Device

09-27-2009, 10:58 AM	#5
Resipsa Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Are cuban cigars really the best? This is an oustanding question. It is my personal belief, based on extensive research both here and abroad, that there is no such thing as a Cuban cigar, that it is a myth create and perpetrated by the cigar elite to further their own ends

09-29-2009, 04:42 AM	#7
beamish Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Are cuban cigars really the best? better taste...higher chance of plugged stick...

09-27-2009, 10:58 AM	#8
Prefy Connoisseur of Pucks Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Matt Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba Posts: 549 Trading: (5)	Re: Are cuban cigars really the best? Smoke what you like...like what you smoke! Personally from what I have smoked on either side I would have to say that I prefer Cuban Leaf.

09-27-2009, 11:01 AM	#12
Don Fernando Postwhore Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ferdinand Location: Singapore Posts: 10,070 Trading: (29)	Re: Are cuban cigars really the best? I can get Cubans legally here and they are easier to get then Non Cubans, still I smoke more Non Cubans as there is so much more to explore and there are some fabulous NC's out there, just as fabulous CC's. And there are also a lot of terrible NC's and some terrible CC's. __________________ check out my reviews on my blog.

09-27-2009, 11:05 AM	#13
akumushi Habanos Apologist Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,298 Trading: (11)	Re: Are cuban cigars really the best? I think the split is between whether you like medium bodied, spicy cigars in a small ring gauge, or thicker, more heavy bodied maduros. Lovers of the former tend to prefer CCs, lovers of the latter prefer NCs. Cuban tobacco has a richness and flavor that NCs have a hard time competing with but their construction and consistency pales in comparison to most average NCs. I personally have stopped buying NCs as the only ones I like (Padron, Tatuaje, Pepin, Illusione) are slightly more expensive than CCs. If CCs were legalized in the US and the prices jumped up to the way they are in Canada because of taxes, then I would probably find myself smoking more Tats and Illusione because they would then be cheaper. I would say that there are NCs and CCs to suit pretty much any taste and some (but not all) of the best smokes I've had are CCs, so they are definitely worth trying!

09-27-2009, 11:06 AM	#14
mariogolbee Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Are cuban cigars really the best? I'm half Cuban but live in CA and for a time I was seeking CC's kinda for the same reason I was into Native Tribal music and Aztec dancing etc. I tried a few varieties during the last couple of years and one a very long time ago. I've never gotten one for $6 a stick as some apparently have. The best sticks I have had came from another country for MORE than $15 a stick but have been my favorite cigar ever. They are the Cohiba Siglo 2 and I loved them. The problem I find with CC's is it's been a huge amount of trouble to get in my experience to get them and half of the authenticity has to come with a grain of salt. All in all though, the CC's I've had are all as good or better than most NC's that I've had.

09-27-2009, 07:27 PM	#18
TheTraveler giggity giggitty Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jonathan Location: Near a Walmart Posts: 1,813 Trading: (12)	Re: Are cuban cigars really the best? I've only had a handful of CCs but I did enjoy them. I'd suggest setting up a personal taste test but lordy, how would you ever manage a good setup? You'd have to smoke many marcas and vitolas of both CC and NC before being able to decide for yourself which cigars compare to one another and also which you'd even enjoy smoking to compare, then lay in a supply of fivers (or more) of each, then do a side-by-side test. By the time you managed all that you'd have already answered your own question! So I'll take the advice of the more experienced and just keep on smokin' whatever I get my hands on. CC or NC, if I hate it I'll probably never try it again. CC or NC, if I like it I'll put it on the list. If I love it I'll try to stock up. shrug Seems to me the best part of this hobby (aside from meeting people, which I've yet to do) is smoking 'em and deciding. Might find that $2 NC gem or discover a deep, abiding lust for that $25 CC. You never know. __________________ "My life is my own."

09-27-2009, 11:41 AM	#19
GTCanuk Still Watching My Back Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Paul (AKA Darrel) Location: Windsor. ON Posts: 248 Trading: (0)	Re: Are cuban cigars really the best? yes

09-27-2009, 12:19 PM	#20
troutbreath Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: The Dash, NC Posts: 706 Trading: (0)	Re: Are cuban cigars really the best? Great comments on this thread. "Better" is completely dependent upon what YOU want in a cigar. There are very good NC's out there, and I enjoy them. The few CC's I have had have been enjoyable. Different. Also very good.