Pacquiao-Mayweather bout gaining ground - Page 11

icehog3 · 05-03-2015, 12:48 AM

What a gyp.

Ashcan Bill · 05-03-2015, 01:37 AM

Pretty much what I expected, including the unanimous decision.

When you get two aging fighters in the ring, it's a lot easier to be the defensive guy than the aggressor guy, especially when the defensive guy has reach and size on his side.

I thought both guys gave it a good go, fought cleanly and with a minimum of clinching. Personally I enjoyed the fight, and agree with the decision.

Mayweather is on his peak right now. He has no more frontiers in front of him, other than maybe setting spending records in the strip clubs and at the exotic car dealerships around town. Pacquiao on the other hand has a good shot at being president of his country in a few years. I suspect he still has a few chapters to write.

icehog3 · 05-03-2015, 09:19 AM

I agree with the decision as well, Bill, but I was disappointed with the fight. Manny's chances involved volume punching, using angles, and being the better power puncher. He did none of the first two and little of the third.

Agreed that he's the better man, and hoping his life continues to bring him good things.

For Floyd, still hoping someone like Keith Thurman can get lucky and catch him and keep him from the undefeated wins record. But Floyd is smart, and will likely pick someone like Khan, who should be an easier opponent matched up with FDloyd's skills.

Ashcan Bill · 05-03-2015, 05:27 PM

Yeah, two things did surprise me about the fight.

First, Manny threw less punches than probably any fight he's been in in recent memory. That really shocked me. Maybe his shoulder was hurting him as has been reported, but if that was the case he should have asked for a postponement, not only for his sake but for that of the fans paying all that money. If he was truly injured, going into a fight of that magnitude at half speed was really stupid.

Second was the post fight interviews. Floyd, who we all know has a rather inflated opinion of himself, was actually pretty gracious in what he had to say about Manny. No mouthing off at all. Manny on the other hand came across to me as being very whiny. Not what I expected from either of them. But that's just my two centavos.

AdamJoshua · 05-04-2015, 09:48 PM

Manny Pacquiao will undergo right shoulder surgery later this week to repair a "significant tear" in his rotator cuff, orthopedic surgeon Dr. Neal ElAttrache told ESPN.com on Monday night.

"We have an MRI scan that confirms he has a rotator cuff tear. He has a significant tear," said ElAttrache, who was still with Pacquiao at his Kerlan Jobe Orthopedic Clinic office in Los Angeles when he spoke to ESPN.com.

ElAttrache said Pacquiao will be out of action between nine months and a year, assuming the surgery and rehabilitation go well.

Dave128 · 05-05-2015, 07:38 AM

I saw on the news this morning that Manny is getting sued because he knew of the injury before the fight. His trainer told him to just take it easy with training for a while and he be good to go for the fight. Looks like he was wrong.

icehog3 · 05-05-2015, 11:18 AM

I want my $99 back.

8zeros · 05-05-2015, 06:09 PM

Anyone else here been through a torn rotator cuff and surgery? I have. Significant, they say. A jab or uppercut would be no problem. A cross would be okay if it connected. A miss would have hurt the shoulder bad because the cuff muscle is what stops the arm and pulls it back from a throwing motion. Hits to his shoulder would have hurt and had a bad effect on it, slowing him down. Swinging his arm up and out like to block would have hurt like hell.
I guess I can't blame him for not postponing though. Looks like that may have been his last big fight.

racerX · 05-05-2015, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3

I want my $99 back.

Me too

icehog3 · 05-05-2015, 10:48 PM

By not postponing the fight, Manny made $120 million, and ripped off everyone who paid to see the fight.

Ashcan Bill · 05-06-2015, 12:00 PM

What's ironic is if he'd just kept his mouth shut instead of whining that he thought he'd won, and his shoulder was hurt, and so on nobody would have known. All he had to say was I gave it my best shot but the other guy was better, thanks everyone, bye now.

Oh well, not exactly the first time boxing has had a bit of controversy.

icehog3 · 05-06-2015, 02:06 PM

5 class action lawsuits filed today, including one in Illinois to get all PPV purchasers their money back. It's a longshot, but if it comes through, hey, that's a box of RASCC.

AdamJoshua · 05-06-2015, 05:10 PM

Well his manager (or whoever) said he was checked by the boxing commission doctors, they were told he had a sore shoulder, they checked his arm movement and all that, said he was fit to fight and that the actual majority of the damage was done during the fight, hard to prove it wasn't, just another waste of court time.

icehog3 · 05-06-2015, 06:17 PM

I don't care, I don't have to testify.

05-03-2015, 12:48 AM	#1
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,776 Trading: (60)	Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather bout gaining ground What a gyp. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

05-03-2015, 01:37 AM	#2
Ashcan Bill Ol' Dude Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Bill Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 1,902 Trading: (6)	Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather bout gaining ground Pretty much what I expected, including the unanimous decision. When you get two aging fighters in the ring, it's a lot easier to be the defensive guy than the aggressor guy, especially when the defensive guy has reach and size on his side. I thought both guys gave it a good go, fought cleanly and with a minimum of clinching. Personally I enjoyed the fight, and agree with the decision. Mayweather is on his peak right now. He has no more frontiers in front of him, other than maybe setting spending records in the strip clubs and at the exotic car dealerships around town. Pacquiao on the other hand has a good shot at being president of his country in a few years. I suspect he still has a few chapters to write.

05-03-2015, 09:19 AM	#3
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,776 Trading: (60)	Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather bout gaining ground I agree with the decision as well, Bill, but I was disappointed with the fight. Manny's chances involved volume punching, using angles, and being the better power puncher. He did none of the first two and little of the third. Agreed that he's the better man, and hoping his life continues to bring him good things. For Floyd, still hoping someone like Keith Thurman can get lucky and catch him and keep him from the undefeated wins record. But Floyd is smart, and will likely pick someone like Khan, who should be an easier opponent matched up with FDloyd's skills. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

05-03-2015, 05:27 PM	#4
Ashcan Bill Ol' Dude Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Bill Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 1,902 Trading: (6)	Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather bout gaining ground Yeah, two things did surprise me about the fight. First, Manny threw less punches than probably any fight he's been in in recent memory. That really shocked me. Maybe his shoulder was hurting him as has been reported, but if that was the case he should have asked for a postponement, not only for his sake but for that of the fans paying all that money. If he was truly injured, going into a fight of that magnitude at half speed was really stupid. Second was the post fight interviews. Floyd, who we all know has a rather inflated opinion of himself, was actually pretty gracious in what he had to say about Manny. No mouthing off at all. Manny on the other hand came across to me as being very whiny. Not what I expected from either of them. But that's just my two centavos.

05-04-2015, 09:48 PM	#5
AdamJoshua Article 4 Free Inhabitant Join Date: Jan 2013 First Name: The Other Adam Location: Satellite Beach Posts: 14,787 Trading: (40)	Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather bout gaining ground Manny Pacquiao will undergo right shoulder surgery later this week to repair a "significant tear" in his rotator cuff, orthopedic surgeon Dr. Neal ElAttrache told ESPN.com on Monday night. "We have an MRI scan that confirms he has a rotator cuff tear. He has a significant tear," said ElAttrache, who was still with Pacquiao at his Kerlan Jobe Orthopedic Clinic office in Los Angeles when he spoke to ESPN.com. ElAttrache said Pacquiao will be out of action between nine months and a year, assuming the surgery and rehabilitation go well.

05-05-2015, 07:38 AM	#6
Dave128 Sexy Dave Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Dave Location: Voorheesville, NY Posts: 3,922 Trading: (4)	Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather bout gaining ground I saw on the news this morning that Manny is getting sued because he knew of the injury before the fight. His trainer told him to just take it easy with training for a while and he be good to go for the fight. Looks like he was wrong. __________________ "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin I "heart" Boobies and Beer!

05-05-2015, 11:18 AM	#7
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,776 Trading: (60)	Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather bout gaining ground I want my $99 back. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

05-05-2015, 06:09 PM	#8
8zeros What's this button do? Join Date: Dec 2013 First Name: Roger Location: Far from everything Posts: 268 Trading: (0)	Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather bout gaining ground Anyone else here been through a torn rotator cuff and surgery? I have. Significant, they say. A jab or uppercut would be no problem. A cross would be okay if it connected. A miss would have hurt the shoulder bad because the cuff muscle is what stops the arm and pulls it back from a throwing motion. Hits to his shoulder would have hurt and had a bad effect on it, slowing him down. Swinging his arm up and out like to block would have hurt like hell. I guess I can't blame him for not postponing though. Looks like that may have been his last big fight. __________________

05-05-2015, 10:48 PM	#10
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,776 Trading: (60)	Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather bout gaining ground By not postponing the fight, Manny made $120 million, and ripped off everyone who paid to see the fight. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

05-06-2015, 12:00 PM	#11
Ashcan Bill Ol' Dude Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Bill Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 1,902 Trading: (6)	Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather bout gaining ground What's ironic is if he'd just kept his mouth shut instead of whining that he thought he'd won, and his shoulder was hurt, and so on nobody would have known. All he had to say was I gave it my best shot but the other guy was better, thanks everyone, bye now. Oh well, not exactly the first time boxing has had a bit of controversy.

05-06-2015, 02:06 PM	#12
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,776 Trading: (60)	Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather bout gaining ground 5 class action lawsuits filed today, including one in Illinois to get all PPV purchasers their money back. It's a longshot, but if it comes through, hey, that's a box of RASCC. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

05-06-2015, 05:10 PM	#13
AdamJoshua Article 4 Free Inhabitant Join Date: Jan 2013 First Name: The Other Adam Location: Satellite Beach Posts: 14,787 Trading: (40)	Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather bout gaining ground Well his manager (or whoever) said he was checked by the boxing commission doctors, they were told he had a sore shoulder, they checked his arm movement and all that, said he was fit to fight and that the actual majority of the damage was done during the fight, hard to prove it wasn't, just another waste of court time.

05-06-2015, 06:17 PM	#14
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,776 Trading: (60)	Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather bout gaining ground I don't care, I don't have to testify. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!