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Old 04-24-2010, 05:08 PM   #1
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Old 04-24-2010, 06:16 PM   #2
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Do you leave the cello on or take it off?
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Old 04-24-2010, 06:51 PM   #3
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2). Does it effect the cigar in any way to have been cut and then rested for months, maybe even years? I am still new to this cigar stuff so I was just curious.
Some use this method to try to get tight cigars to open up, Bao.
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Old 04-24-2010, 07:15 PM   #4
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Some use this method to try to get tight cigars to open up, Bao.
I have heard this as well, unfortunately im not sure if it actually works.. Good question..

I will join you at the podium though, as i have a fetish of testing draws on random cigars in my humidors, so i might have random cigars that are cut..

Nothing to be self conscious about; its all in the name of science, lol..



FWIW...... ive found myself bringing 2-3 cigars to the cigar lounge, and sometimes snipping them before i get to the lounge, as i dont want to get to the lounge and have a cigar thats plugged to sh*t!. Ya kno?
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Old 04-24-2010, 08:11 PM   #5
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I learned from James Suckling and my friends at that most illustrious magazine that you shouldn't cut the cigar until after you have lit it, because this way you look like more of an @sshole.

Oh wait, maybe it was something about sulfur. Either way, if you want to have friends, it doesn't really matter. If you want to hang with Suckling, well then we have bigger problems
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I learned from James Suckling and my friends at that most illustrious magazine that you shouldn't cut the cigar until after you have lit it, because this way you look like more of an @sshole.

Oh wait, maybe it was something about sulfur. Either way, if you want to have friends, it doesn't really matter. If you want to hang with Suckling, well then we have bigger problems
Friggin hilarious. I heard someone say the same thing about lighting the cigar before you cut it and this has to be the same place I read it from.
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Old 04-24-2010, 11:14 PM   #7
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I will answer your question but only if you answer mine first:

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Old 04-25-2010, 11:00 AM   #8
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I learned from James Suckling and my friends at that most illustrious magazine that you shouldn't cut the cigar until after you have lit it, because this way you look like more of an @sshole.

Oh wait, maybe it was something about sulfur. Either way, if you want to have friends, it doesn't really matter. If you want to hang with Suckling, well then we have bigger problems
I heard this a while back at another Forum that is currently off-line and have tried it - honestly this doesnt affect if I am an arse or not, my gf says I am at times - it is kind of fun as I really enjoy this part of the ritual, focussing so much on the cigar really helps me enjoy it and block out everything else, I do not do it often but it is fun for me...

As for your questions buddy -

1). No effect IMHO, as long as you take off your white gloves and the bands no one will think the lesser

2). I would be interested to see if this increases wrapper issues

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Old 04-25-2010, 11:10 AM   #9
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If I am going out and taking just a 3 or 4 finger case - I routinely pre-cut my cigars. That way I don't have to carry a cutter also. I also pre-cut some that I keep in the box in my truck. Saves from having to cut while driving. So no, I don't find it odd at all.


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Wait, what?


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Old 04-29-2010, 03:43 PM   #11
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I learned from James Suckling and my friends at that most illustrious magazine that you shouldn't cut the cigar until after you have lit it, because this way you look like more of an @sshole.

Funny + informational thread. The above quote made me lol at work
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Old 04-24-2010, 08:11 PM   #12
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I am still new to this cigar stuff so I was just curious


I think the only drawback to this is that the cigars MAY unravel in your humidor.
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Old 04-25-2010, 03:33 PM   #13
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You are all a bunch of jokers aren't cha?

1) I had a cigar that from initial draw was way to tight so I just threw it back into the humi for months (1-2). Totally fixed any draw issues it had.

1.5) Maybe if I precut all my cigars, I'll never have draw issues.

2) I was curious if, besides shaving seconds away from me enjoying the cigar, that maybe the flavor changes somehow with having no end cap.

c) You're all a bunch of pecka heads!!
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c) You're all a bunch of pecka heads!![/quote]

However I have always considered myslef more of a Dog -

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Old 04-26-2010, 09:50 AM   #15
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You are all a bunch of jokers aren't cha?

1) I had a cigar that from initial draw was way to tight so I just threw it back into the humi for months (1-2). Totally fixed any draw issues it had.

1.5) Maybe if I precut all my cigars, I'll never have draw issues.

2) I was curious if, besides shaving seconds away from me enjoying the cigar, that maybe the flavor changes somehow with having no end cap.

c) You're all a bunch of pecka heads!!
Do you have an idea on why that may be?
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Do you have an idea on why that may be?
nope that's why I am asking.
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Stop buying cigars with trees wrapped inside and you will be fine

I do the same thing. If it's a cheapie, or if the draw worsens during smoking, I will use the draw tool. Otherwise, it just goes back in for a month or two. I generally smoke those ones myself though, instead of handing them out.
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1) I had a cigar that from initial draw was way to tight so I just threw it back into the humi for months (1-2). Totally fixed any draw issues it had.
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nope that's why I am asking.
I don't know "why" either, but I have had the same experience that Bao did.
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Thanks for putting it more succinctly than I did, Mark.
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My preference for 62% came from a couple years of experimentation, starting with the 70% and gradually working my way down in humidity. I went through long periods at 70%, 67&, 65%, so I can say my preference for 62% is definitely experience-based, and I much prefer the way my cigars taste and burn at 62% over 70%..

I still am not convinced that wetting the wrapper and not having the mositure reach the filler is equivalent with an RH level affecting the filler during long term storage, but this is strictly my thoughts and I don't have any science to base it on....making the thought worthless to anyone but me.
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I think there is a logical fallacy in this, Wayner. Granted the water didn't get to the filler within the span of a few minutes or hours, but I am SURE if you wet the cigar and let it sit for months, the extra humidity would permeate the cigar. When you have a gas-permeable solid (tobacco, in this case) and you put it in a humidified environment for a sufficient amount of time, the solid will reach equilibrium with the environment (in this case it will be evenly humidified). If you put a cigar in a 70% humi for a day, yes the filler will still be lower than the wrapper and binder, but leave it for a number of weeks or months and equilibrium will, necessarily, be reached. Thats just the nature of gases and permeable membranes.

All that to say, if Tom's cigars are in the cab/vino/humidor long enough the entire cigar will, eventually, reach equlibrium. The binder and wrapper will humidify faster, but it is not possible that it will forever "insulate" the filler.

Cut the caps or not, after long enough time in the humi (I would say a month or so, although a couple of weeks is probably sufficient) the cigar will always be evenly humidified.

( from a bible scholar. Take everything with a grain of salt, but know that that grain of salt may be your eternal damnation )

Both very valid points. My explanation was merely a guess and based mainly on my own experiences and advice written by MRN and others.
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