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Old 07-09-2009, 10:52 PM   #1
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I think a short visit with an attorney familiar with Georgias laws regarding Use of Force, Castle Doctrine (if it even applies), and lethal and non-lethal alternatives and consequences may very well be whatever the hour or two might cost you, Albert.


Especially with what your in-laws might face on either side of that unstable equation.
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:04 PM   #2
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Depending on his mental illness, I would not take this lightly and would

1) Stay in touch with authorities to make sure you know when he is released.
2) As already mentioned here, pepper sprays may not work well for several reason, one being mental rage.
3) A tazor will always work, no way around this, out bodies are all the same.
4) Check the law, it lethal force is allowed, use it. He may have multiple assaults but you do not want to be the family where he ratchets things up! I hate guns but stuff like this... well there are exceptions to everything and this is one of them.

Batons, whips, sticks, etc... if your folks are not physically able, especially your mom, they are probably not the best solution. I would advise your parents if he is released not to be alone... go everywhere together, garden together, etc.

Good luck man, this is really terrible... a home is supposed to be your safe place.
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:06 PM   #3
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how about a bean bag round for a shotgun? it'll stop without killing him.

http://www.keepshooting.com/ammuniti...nd-shotgun.htm

or how about a stun baton? 800,000 volts!!
http://www.selfdefenseweapons.com/stun-baton.htm

or you could go old fashioned with some kind of mean dog or gator
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how about a bean bag round for a shotgun? it'll stop without killing him.

http://www.keepshooting.com/ammuniti...nd-shotgun.htm

or how about a stun baton? 800,000 volts!!
http://www.selfdefenseweapons.com/stun-baton.htm

or you could go old fashioned with some kind of mean dog or gator
I say get a dog...you get a new family friend and theif scarer awayer..
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Big, Mean Dog would be my best advice. Good Luck!
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:05 AM   #7
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:13 PM   #8
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another note, and not a pleasant one to think about...



If your MiL is close enough for a baton/contact stun gun/etc.... it is far too close. Depending on physical abilities of the aggressor and the victim, within 21 feet is the danger zone, and that is less than you think. Use the police and the justice system for every possible transgression to build a case, even the little stuff, it could help them in the future as being a "reluctant participant" should any violence take place. De-escalation of any possible situation would be the proper action, even if it hampers your families quality of life for a short time, because the alternatives, if this neighbor is mentally unstable, are not acceptable.
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Old 07-10-2009, 03:39 AM   #10
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The problem with the non lethal options are that they are generally single shot and/or require you to get too close to their intended target. This person is a rabid animal and there is only one solution; deadly force. If your MIL would feel better about it, have her get a 28 ga shotgun and use that instead of the 12 ga. This will stop the target and would be considered to be more survivable. A well trained personal protection dog would be another option. German shepards or Bouviers are the more stable breeds for this purpose.
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Id shoot the fuker or get him on the ground with some pepper spray and break his knee caps with a baseball bat.
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Id shoot the fuker or get him on the ground with some pepper spray and break his knee caps with a baseball bat.
And be convicted of assault with a deadly weapon? Once someone is no longer a threat continuing to assualt the individual is a crime. Just sayin.

Not gonna stay in BP for long with that idea.
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:16 AM   #13
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I would go for a nice 8 shot pump shot gun using the bean bags in the shells; less then lethal(good knock down power) and still have the option of replacing the last 2 shells with something more lethal.

It is good to remember that what will work on a normal person, might not have any effect on someone with mental disorders.

I will keep your family in prayer.
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Old 07-10-2009, 07:00 AM   #15
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Last year a local Brother saw the whacko neighbour talking to his 6 year old daughter outside his home, he went outside asked the kid to go inside told the guy to have a nice day, turned to go inside himself and was stabbed in the back twice with a 8" butcher knife. He wrestled the knife off the guy called the cops. The whacko ran home & committed suicide, had a history of illness, was off his meds, you know the story.

You just can't tell what people with a mental illness will fixate on, better to be safe than sorry. Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. IMHO
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:06 AM   #17
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...better to be safe than sorry. Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. IMHO
Interesting quote. Will go into the mental rolodex for later use.


Good luck, Albert... let us know how things turn out.
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Old 07-10-2009, 07:44 AM   #19
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This is made by an extremely reputable company.

http://www.pepperblaster.com/

They carry them at adventure outdoors which is not too far from where you live.

http://www.advout.com/
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How about 12 gauge bean bag loads or just good old 12 ga rock salt loads?
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