Question for NC smokers

[shilala]

Originally Posted by rizzle

It is my belief that all cigars are made to be smoked how the owner of the cigar pleases regardless of where the tobacco was grown. Just because tobacco was grown on one island versus another doesn't mean it should be smoked differently. That is an argument that makes no sense.

It is my belief that forks are made to be used however the owner pleases, but it can be argued that they're intended to be pushed into food so that it can be delivered to said owner's mouth.
Call it tradition.
Goes the same with cigars. Tradition hopes that we'll smoke cigars in a fashion that we can appreciate them at the level that the devoted and inspired maker intended.
It has nothing to do with good or bad, wrong or right.
If I'm dating Tyra Banks and decide that we're just going to kiss, there's nothing wrong with that at all. It sure ain't bad. I'm gonna miss out on some treats, though.
That's why brothers share custom. So their friends can experience the pleasures they've found.
It's all good.

[rizzle]

Originally Posted by shilala

It is my belief that forks are made to be used however the owner pleases, but it can be argued that they're intended to be pushed into food so that it can be delivered to said owner's mouth.
Call it tradition.
Goes the same with cigars. Tradition hopes that we'll smoke cigars in a fashion that we can appreciate them at the level that the devoted and inspired maker intended.
It has nothing to do with good or bad, wrong or right.
If I'm dating Tyra Banks and decide that we're just going to kiss, there's nothing wrong with that at all. It sure ain't bad. I'm gonna miss out on some treats, though.
That's why brothers share custom. So their friends can experience the pleasures they've found.
It's all good.

I think I agree with what I think you said.

But I will say that a left handed fork is used differently than a right handed one. Now excuse me, I have to run out to the auto parts store and buy a bucket of compression.

Originally Posted by rizzle

It is my belief that all cigars are made to be smoked how the owner of the cigar pleases regardless of where the tobacco was grown. Just because tobacco was grown on one island versus another doesn't mean it should be smoked differently. That is an argument that makes no sense.

And I'm not directing this at you Andy. Your post just summed up what I think Klugs was looking for.

I don't speak for Klugs but I don't think thats exactly what he was looking for.

Before last years shak I didn't nose smoke. And tho I'd made a concious decision to move heavily into CCs I still smoked and loved an occasional NC. Then I learned to smoke and some curious things happened:

1. I saw the flavor of a lot of cigars, or rather what I thought was the flavor, be tremendously expanded.

2. I later found cigars that I thought were great were actually not so great.

3. I also later found the inverse to be true, lots of cigars I didnt appreciate as much became real stars via snorking.

I might not phrase it that CCs were made for snorking, but it does allow the smoker to really see what people mean when they talk about the depth and complexity that CCs offer over NCs. If you don't snork, I don't know that you'll ever really see this.

[rizzle]

Originally Posted by Addiction

I don't speak for Klugs but I don't think thats exactly what he was looking for.

Before last years shak I didn't nose smoke. And tho I'd made a concious decision to move heavily into CCs I still smoked and loved an occasional NC. Then I learned to smoke and some curious things happened:

1. I saw the flavor of a lot of cigars, or rather what I thought was the flavor, be tremendously expanded.

2. I later found cigars that I thought were great were actually not so great.

3. I also later found the inverse to be true, lots of cigars I didnt appreciate as much became real stars via snorking.

I might not phrase it that CCs were made for snorking, but it does allow the smoker to really see what people mean when they talk about the depth and complexity that CCs offer over NCs. If you don't snork, I don't know that you'll ever really see this.

I do snork. I feel ya.

[shilala]

Originally Posted by Addiction

I might not phrase it that CCs were made for snorking, but it does allow the smoker to really see what people mean when they talk about the depth and complexity that CCs offer over NCs. If you don't snork, I don't know that you'll ever really see this.

I have always found a lot more depth, flavor and complexity out of nc's, as a whole. By a longshot.
I'd be willing to concede that cc's deliver more "complex subtleties" than nc's, as a generalization.
Mind ya, this is just how I feel, but I find cc's as a mild alternative to a good cigar. I don't mean this disparagingly at all. I enjoy a number of cc's now. I smoke them when I'm not in the mood for a cigar.
I smoke strong, sweet, spicy maduro nc's mainly.
To put it in perspective, I feel like those nc's are a big steak dinner and cc's are a salad. Sometimes I'm in the mood for a salad, ya know?
I find all my cc's so similar that if I was forced to only smoke them, I'd probably quit smoking from boredom. There's not the vast difference between a nic puro and dominican puro. I enjoy that big difference, the big range.
Ultimately I think it's awesome that there's so many different origins, and so many different blends. It's what gives the whole hobby spice.

One last thing and I'll shut up...
Nose a two year old JJ Maduro and there's an absolute mind-blowing richness, huge range and complexity at a 10 on the Richter scale.
Nose a 10 year old ERDM Lunch Club and it's like going to the ballet. With a dress on.
It's whatever you're in the mood for, baby.

[troutbreath]

I do this at least once on every stick. This really brings out the flavor. If it burns . . . well, I stop.

After taking some smoke into your mouth you can go through the motion of saying "caw" with you lips closed while exhaling through your nose and that might get you snorking.
I used to be a cigarette smoker so it came naturally to me.

I do at least a few times throughout smoking a cigar.

[groogs]

I snork every cigar I smoke. I think it improves every good gigar NC, or CC.

[Ratters]

I tried to do it but it made me start saying all my "c"s and "g"s.

[shilala]

I honestly didn't think a person could smoke a cigar and other way, this thread has really enlightened me.
The sweet spicy taste and smell in my nose is why I like smoking cigars.
When there's no wind I like to french inhale because it tastes different going up my nose than out my nose. I don't know why, you wouldn't think it'd be different, but it is.
I picked up the habit of smoking like that from when I was a kid and smoked menthols. I loved the menthol sinus flavor but could never make a habit of smoking cigs cause it cut my wind and I liked to play ball. Running out of breath halfway up the court or halfway to first base never settled well with me.

[ucla695]

Even though it can enhance the smoking experience, I try not to because I usually end up with a sinus infection.

[Skywalker]

...So you're saying that burning sensation is normal???

[shilala]

Originally Posted by Skywalker

...So you're saying that burning sensation is normal???

It goes away after you burn your brains out, don't sweat it.

Originally Posted by shilala

I honestly didn't think a person could smoke a cigar and other way, this thread has really enlightened me.

I agree

Originally Posted by shilala

It goes away after you burn your brains out, don't sweat it.

After reading everyone's different experiences, it makes me wonder if I didn't burn my brains out a long time ago. I never noticed a real difference in the intensity of the sensation from one cigar to another. Each is unique in it's own way. I just assumed everyone passed smoke thru their nose.

[Raralith]

I just looked up French Inhale and it looks pretty cool. Do ya'll inhale the cigar smoke though? I can barely inhale a draw without choking so I don't know how people could inhale the whole thing through their nose unless they usually inhale.

[shilala]

Originally Posted by Raralith

I just looked up French Inhale and it looks pretty cool. Do ya'll inhale the cigar smoke though? I can barely inhale a draw without choking so I don't know how people could inhale the whole thing through their nose unless they usually inhale.

You just meter how much you accept up your nose.
If I'm getting too much I just turn my head. I release it from my mouth very slowly, kind of by just closing my mouth real slow.
I'm sure I look ridiculous, but it's a whole 'nother sensory experience.
It's especially fun with flavored cigars because they taste totally different snorked, mouthed or french inhaled.
Add to that smelling the raw smoke off the end of the cigar and smelling the drawn smoke that wafts out of the back of the cigar after a drag, and I get five very different experiences from the smoke.
Six if you count the smoke burning my eyes, I suppose.

[Jimbo14]

It burns my nose. I have done it several times and it feels terrible so I dont do it anymore.

However I will often 'nose inhale' the second hand smoke from the cigar to really enjoy the aroma.

I used to consciously think about it. Now I do it with every cigar without even thinking about it. It's the best way to pick up all the flavors and really enjoy what a cigar has to offer.

[PeteSB75]

I didn't for quite a while when I started smoking cigars. Then a friendly BOTL enlightened me as to what I was missing. So I started trying it, and now I do it on every draw. It's like learning to smoke and experience those flavors all over again.