A-Fraud Tests Positive for Steroid Use - Page 3

mosesbotbol · 02-08-2009, 12:20 PM

Remember, the Majors is entertainment. You want home runs? You want big hits and big pitching? Baseball is not ready to bite the hand it feeds from. The Senate is wasting our taxpayer's money. Sure the Gov't can ruin a few legends, but let the Majors take care of Majors.

Genetic Defect · 02-08-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

Remember, the Majors is entertainment. You want home runs? You want big hits and big pitching? Baseball is not ready to bite the hand it feeds from. The Senate is wasting our taxpayer's money. Sure the Gov't can ruin a few legends, but let the Majors take care of Majors.

Not everyone finds it entertaining

blugill · 02-08-2009, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vito

Not everyone finds it entertaining

Well not now that people aren't hitting 70 home runs a year....

Genetic Defect · 02-08-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by blugill

Well not now that people aren't hitting 70 home runs a year....

Even then I wasn't entertained. I get bored easy now with most sports

Partagaspete · 02-08-2009, 01:17 PM

Wasn't Clemens roiding too? where did he come from? Oh yeay your organization. Didn't you guys try to outbid NY for A-Rod but loose? What would you guys be saying if you had him. Gimme a break!

Some Bo-sox fans can be so hypocritical it is not even funny. Not to mention a bit xenophobic.

You want to talk Sports; then talk about your Bruins instead of Hating on the Yankees. They are doing great and have a real shot this year.

T

MiamiE · 02-08-2009, 01:39 PM

I hate the Yankees, and enjoy the Red Sox success a lot. I am not a fan of either, but if you think no former or current Red Sox are 'juicing', you are living in la la land. This is a sports writers dream.

BigFrank · 02-08-2009, 04:49 PM

Not surprised by A-Rod. Most guys use, or have used. Thinking guys arent on something is being naive.

02-08-2009, 05:17 PM

They just picked the biggest name player to out. Bigger news story. That's probably why the boston fans are so busy up in arms, no one cares about anyone their.

That aside, no really, It's just biggest name most shock. I dunno I kind am on the fence, I mean if you sat at your office job and guzzled HGH you won't be huge you still need to work out for it. Should we ban protein shakes next?

Sports of any kind have always been about the edge, be it race cars drilling holes in the suspension for that last pound, putting your hands behind you to force a foul or gobble something to wire you up.

Not putting any spin on it that's just how it is, and riods are now the loophole or edge that is getting closed.

Personally I'm mixed on it, these people live for this sport they aren't morons they understand the risks should it be stopped? It is unfair to those who choose not to. But is giving up 5 years later on worth it for another good season? I'm not holding a needle and wondering that.

I'm not looking to stand up for or bash any of the players. Just throwing it out.

Genetic Defect · 02-08-2009, 07:45 PM

I guess its ok to cheat if everyone is cheating, and also ok to steal if everyone is stealing, etc.

Starscream · 02-08-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vito

I guess its ok to cheat if everyone is cheating, and also ok to steal if everyone is stealing, etc.

Exactly!

No, it's not, but if everyone else is doing it, one person should not be crucified while others are merely slapped on the wrist. I'm not condoning the use of steroids, just pointing out an often overlooked point-of-view.

Yazzie · 02-08-2009, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by andysutherland

Exactly!

No, it's not, but if everyone else is doing it, one person should not be crucified while others are merely slapped on the wrist. I'm not condoning the use of steroids, just pointing out an often overlooked point-of-view.

Agreed...Look the media sucks and anyone that does not cooperate with them (Barry Bonds for one) gets crucified by them....The media in this country sucks and plays a large part in what gets spoon fed to us

Starscream · 02-08-2009, 08:08 PM

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Agreed...Look the media sucks and anyone that does not cooperate with them (Barry Bonds for one) gets crucified by them....The media in this country sucks and plays a large part in what gets spoon fed to us

And that's not just baseball. Look at our economic crisis right now. It wasn't good in the first place, but the media has caused us to spiral in the last few months out of nothing more than fearmongering tactics.

AD720 · 02-08-2009, 07:52 PM

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I also highly doubt that Hank Aaron faced pitchers who used anabolic steroids either.

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True....I think MLB is going to have to have some kind of Asterik, footnote (call it what you want) to distinguish the Steroid Era. I love the game and it will go on. Tough decision though on how to account for this

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Originally Posted by Big Vito

I guess its ok to cheat if everyone is cheating, and also ok to steal if everyone is stealing, etc.

It is a shame but it is true. Baseball definitely lost it's innocence in the last 10 years or so and it is really sad.

gettysburgfreak · 02-09-2009, 04:15 PM

anybody watching his interview with Peter Gammons on ESPN? Its making me sick listening to this guy. "It feels good to come out and get it off my chest" I highly doubt he would have admitted to roiding up if he didn't get caught. What a clown.

chippewastud79 · 02-09-2009, 04:34 PM

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anybody watching his interview with Peter Gammons on ESPN? Its making me sick listening to this guy. "It feels good to come out and get it off my chest" I highly doubt he would have admitted to roiding up if he didn't get caught. What a clown.

Maybe his apology is forced, but it seems as if he is being fairly upfront with the admission. No smoke and mirrors, no saying he was doing it for an injury, no saying he didn't know it was illegal or didn't know what he was taking. He admits he messed up and that it is all his fault for trying to get a competitive edge. Better than many other athletes who have skated the issue and continue to do the same thing.

gettysburgfreak · 02-09-2009, 04:36 PM

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Maybe his apology is forced, but it seems as if he is being fairly upfront with the admission. No smoke and mirrors, no saying he was doing it for an injury, no saying he didn't know it was illegal or didn't know what he was taking. He admits he messed up and that it is all his fault for trying to get a competitive edge. Better than many other athletes who have skated the issue and continue to do the same thing.

When asked which substances he took he replied he didn't know what he was taking. Give me a break

Yazzie · 02-09-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak

When asked which substances he took he replied he didn't know what he was taking. Give me a break

What a joke he is and Gammons (Boston Native) is being soft on him....

I need a drink after watching this Soap Opera

chippewastud79 · 02-09-2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak

When asked which substances he took he replied he didn't know what he was taking. Give me a break

He admitted he knew what he was taking was illegal and he was guilty of trusting people by using what they told him to. He also said he didn't know what he had tested positive for so he wasn't going to say what it was. I am not a fan of the Yankees, nor am I a fan of Alex Rodriguez, but I respect him for being fairly upfront about it and owning up to his actions. I realize that Red Sox Nation and a lot of fans will hold this against him for a while, but atleast he came clean and admitted it.

gettysburgfreak · 02-09-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79

He admitted he knew what he was taking was illegal and he was guilty of trusting people by using what they told him to. He also said he didn't know what he had tested positive for so he wasn't going to say what it was. I am not a fan of the Yankees, nor am I a fan of Alex Rodriguez, but I respect him for being fairly upfront about it and owning up to his actions. I realize that Red Sox Nation and a lot of fans will hold this against him for a while, but atleast he came clean and admitted it.

If you look at an earlier post I said I give him credit for coming out and saying he did it. How can you not laugh at him and roll your eyes when he gives a statement such as "I was young, stupid, I was nieve." He had been in the league for 8 years. Its not like he was a rookie looking to prove something. He knew exactly what he was doing.

VirtualSmitty · 02-09-2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak

anybody watching his interview with Peter Gammons on ESPN? Its making me sick listening to this guy. "It feels good to come out and get it off my chest" I highly doubt he would have admitted to roiding up if he didn't get caught. What a clown.

Interesting statement. The next time you break the law (smoke pot, speed, buy cuban cigars, etc) I expect the first thing you'll do is run straight to the law and admit your guilt, because your a person of such higher morals

02-08-2009, 12:20 PM	#1
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: A-Fraud Tests Positive for Steroid Use Remember, the Majors is entertainment. You want home runs? You want big hits and big pitching? Baseball is not ready to bite the hand it feeds from. The Senate is wasting our taxpayer's money. Sure the Gov't can ruin a few legends, but let the Majors take care of Majors. __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

02-08-2009, 01:17 PM	#5
Partagaspete I Do Medical Things Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The 1st State Posts: 676 Trading: (8)	Re: A-Fraud Tests Positive for Steroid Use Wasn't Clemens roiding too? where did he come from? Oh yeay your organization. Didn't you guys try to outbid NY for A-Rod but loose? What would you guys be saying if you had him. Gimme a break! Some Bo-sox fans can be so hypocritical it is not even funny. Not to mention a bit xenophobic. You want to talk Sports; then talk about your Bruins instead of Hating on the Yankees. They are doing great and have a real shot this year. T

02-08-2009, 01:39 PM	#6
MiamiE I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Erick Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,892 Trading: (38)	Re: A-Fraud Tests Positive for Steroid Use I hate the Yankees, and enjoy the Red Sox success a lot. I am not a fan of either, but if you think no former or current Red Sox are 'juicing', you are living in la la land. This is a sports writers dream.

02-08-2009, 04:49 PM	#7
BigFrank 5 3 1 Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Frank Location: Gym or Sofa. Posts: 1,896 Trading: (25)	Re: A-Fraud Tests Positive for Steroid Use Not surprised by A-Rod. Most guys use, or have used. Thinking guys arent on something is being naive. __________________ " Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. "

02-08-2009, 05:17 PM	#8
Ace$nyper Guest Posts: n/a	Re: A-Fraud Tests Positive for Steroid Use They just picked the biggest name player to out. Bigger news story. That's probably why the boston fans are so busy up in arms, no one cares about anyone their. That aside, no really, It's just biggest name most shock. I dunno I kind am on the fence, I mean if you sat at your office job and guzzled HGH you won't be huge you still need to work out for it. Should we ban protein shakes next? Sports of any kind have always been about the edge, be it race cars drilling holes in the suspension for that last pound, putting your hands behind you to force a foul or gobble something to wire you up. Not putting any spin on it that's just how it is, and riods are now the loophole or edge that is getting closed. Personally I'm mixed on it, these people live for this sport they aren't morons they understand the risks should it be stopped? It is unfair to those who choose not to. But is giving up 5 years later on worth it for another good season? I'm not holding a needle and wondering that. I'm not looking to stand up for or bash any of the players. Just throwing it out.

02-08-2009, 07:45 PM	#9
Genetic Defect difetosso Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Perry Location: An elevator Posts: 5,202 Trading: (5)	Re: A-Fraud Tests Positive for Steroid Use I guess its ok to cheat if everyone is cheating, and also ok to steal if everyone is stealing, etc. __________________ I'm an outcast riding into town alone I got wanderlust branded deeper than the bone

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gettysburgfreak Patriot Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Mitten Posts: 1,442 Trading: (2)	Re: A-Fraud Tests Positive for Steroid Use anybody watching his interview with Peter Gammons on ESPN? Its making me sick listening to this guy. "It feels good to come out and get it off my chest" I highly doubt he would have admitted to roiding up if he didn't get caught. What a clown. __________________ Author ofeath, Disease, and Life at War: The Civil War Letters of Surgeon James D. Benton, 111th and 98th New York Infantry Regiments, 1862-1865.