No smoking on college campus?- Any place else?

[RobR1205]

Yeah security here at the academy is getting a lot stricter. They have limited us to only 4 sporadically placed "smoking sections" (and when you look at the size of the entire base, you really have to do some walking just to get to one). Additionally, all 4/c's (freshmen) are prohibited from ANY and ALL tobacco use, which wasn't a rule up until this year. The Academy says they are doing this because they want cadets to live healthier lives, but when you consider that some of freshmen can be as old as 24 years old with prior enlisted time in the coast guard, you gotta realize that they are old enough and experienced to make their own decisions about what is healthy and what is not. Their intentions are good, but hardly beneficial when you consider we are just going to do it off-base or after graduation.

[hscmit]

hospital campus is the same way
my son was born I had a few friends stop by and we tried to go to one of the sitting areas outside where no one was around and were informed by a nurse walking by and then soon after by security that smoking was banned on all the property owned by the hospital

[area51]

The only way I can see them getting away with the personal vehicles and such is because you are on private property.

[emopunker2004]

Glad we can smoke on the rec fields at work still. But because many officers can't get away all the time to get their fix there are MANY CO's that have taken to dip.

The two community colleges I went to have a no-smoking policy. You have to go out to the parking lot, where ashtrays are provided, to smoke. The problem is that at least one of them students smoke in certain areas anyway, but they toss butts everywhere. When I was a student there I spoke to staff at the health office and suggested they place receptacles there. Also, since there is no law prohibiting smoking in the city, the campus police cannot issue citations.

At my current school, San Jose State University, there are no specific rules about smoking, except for the standard 20 feet from any door or window. I sometimes smoke on campus and have even had a discussion with a professor while he puffed away on his briar.

[Malakai]

Marriott and Ritz-Carlton in the US are all smoke free and do assign $250 dollar fees if caught. Was just in Zion, Utah and due to their extreme dry weather conditions banned camp fires and smoking while in the park and when I went to light up in my car to enjoy a smoke was advised that I could not smoke even in my car with the windows up. Funny thing was every day I was there we had thunderstorms dropping crap loads of rain!!

[oldforge]

Any time you receive a fund solicitation from any of these "no smoking" institutions just let them know you have insitituted a "no contribution" policy as a result--when they reverse themselves so will you.

If you are ambitious send a copy to each member of the Board of Trustees.

If you have contributed in the past make sure to let them know that as well.

What was that Jefferson quote--"Liberty, yours if you can keep it".

[mosesbotbol]

Smokers are an easy target for those who really have deep seated hate, but want to come off as compassionate and caring. This is a common theme in Liberal America.

Just like welfare is meant to help people in their eyes, but it is really to subjugate and promote class difference by making one dependent on subsidy.

[OLS]

You are so full of baloney Moses, its staggering. Lay off the politics please, folks.

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by OLS

You are so full of baloney Moses, its staggering. Lay off the politics please, folks.

I don’t think this is full of baloney. Collegiate education is certainly left leaning and most initiatives like this are not for true public health or safety. If that was the case, I can think many things that would promote a healthier campus than banning smoking. Those making these decisions on what is allowed in one’s car is because they know what is better for you than you. Goes back to my classism and subjugation comment posted earlier.

That's incredible that they do that and I know when I went to school in NC (small college called Elon) there were no such rules to my knowledge.

Outside of the new rules your describing, the one rule that has driven me nuts is when certain places have told me to put out my cigar and offered me a cigarette as some sort of equal value. I never understood places not allowing cigars but allowing cigarettes.

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by Geerawkz

the one rule that has driven me nuts is when certain places have told me to put out my cigar and offered me a cigarette as some sort of equal value. I never understood places not allowing cigars but allowing cigarettes.

Never heard of that. How cavalier they are to just think they are both similar and you should be fine with that.

Actually happened in a few different hotels, casinos and once on a cruise. Very frustrating!

[Subvet642]

Originally Posted by Geerawkz

Actually happened in a few different hotels, casinos and once on a cruise. Very frustrating!

One of the many reasons I won't travel anymore.

[danreeve]

Ohio State plans to go 100% non-smoking campus within a year. The medical center campus (attached to the main campus) has been non-smoking for a few years now.

Dan