Official SEC Football Thread 2012 - Page 18

oooo35980 · 11-10-2012, 06:35 PM

judging from the past hour or so I don't think GA has to worry about it much.

OLS · 11-10-2012, 06:41 PM

haha, I think you guys in Tuscaloosa are safe....Auburn has beaten bama before, but I don't see it.

oooo35980 · 11-10-2012, 07:02 PM

Mississippi state is hanging with LSU, barely. I didn't see that one coming. LSU might be a bit worse for wear after last week too. I still don't think Mississippi state can win, but it isn't a complete embarrassment like their last two games.

OLS · 11-10-2012, 07:10 PM

At least you can watch it....no cable in my house. But Miss State is still a capable football team, just woefully
inconsistent. That's all coaching; bama has great players and great coaching and they keep them motivated and
performing at a high level. You can get very close with just talent. But you can't play well all the time that way.
MSU is completely capable of beating the tigers tonight. But LSU is in business to make it happen in the 4th qtr.
Watch for the relentless running game to just wear em down. Make no mistake, LSU can RUN the ball.

oooo35980 · 11-10-2012, 07:21 PM

That sucks, we got cable specifically for the games after one week we weren't able to watch anything we gave a crap about online, ESPN sucks sometimes. Mettenberger looks like the real deal, he isn't having as good a game as last week, but way better than in the early season.

icehog3 · 11-10-2012, 07:35 PM

I should watch Alabama games more often. Brought some luck....to the Aggies.

longknocker · 11-11-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

I should watch Alabama games more often. Brought some luck....to the Aggies.

icehog3 · 11-11-2012, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by longknocker

Sorry, Greg, I am willing to do almost anything to get the Gators back in the top 4.

BeerAdvocate · 11-11-2012, 07:25 PM

I would just like to thread jack, that is all

icehog3 · 11-11-2012, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BeerAdvocate

I would just like to thread jack, that is all

Since you're jacking...Bet some cigars they don't win the National Championship?

Fordman4ever · 11-10-2012, 07:48 PM

Go Dawgs. Beat them tigers

oooo35980 · 11-10-2012, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fordman4ever

Go Dawgs. Beat them tigers

SvilleKid · 11-10-2012, 08:27 PM

I don't know that I buy that Bama's defense problem was being beat up. They looked susceptible to the same offense that LSU threw at them, A&M just didn't let Bama stay as close to them in score as LSU did. I also don't understand the continued mismatch in size between the A&M end (was it 6'5" to 5'10"??). I don't know if that was due to Bama Not having any better option, or if the experience of our defender was just felt to be enough to make up for it? In the end, that was just another nail in the coffin. It was a well played game by A&M. Much better than played by Bama. It pointed up our weakness on pass defense, and our weakness against no-huddle offenses. Something that might not be over for us. We will just have to wait and see.

oooo35980 · 11-11-2012, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SvilleKid

I don't know that I buy that Bama's defense problem was being beat up. They looked susceptible to the same offense that LSU threw at them, A&M just didn't let Bama stay as close to them in score as LSU did. I also don't understand the continued mismatch in size between the A&M end (was it 6'5" to 5'10"??). I don't know if that was due to Bama Not having any better option, or if the experience of our defender was just felt to be enough to make up for it? In the end, that was just another nail in the coffin. It was a well played game by A&M. Much better than played by Bama. It pointed up our weakness on pass defense, and our weakness against no-huddle offenses. Something that might not be over for us. We will just have to wait and see.

I don't even think we played badly, except in the first quarter. Not counting that we held them to 9 points and scored 24. We just couldn't come back from our defense rolling over in the first 15 minutes. Honestly the fact that we made it close speaks to the quality of the game that Bama played. After the disaster in the first quarter it was just too little, too late.

rizzle · 11-13-2012, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SvilleKid

I don't know that I buy that Bama's defense problem was being beat up. They looked susceptible to the same offense that LSU threw at them, A&M just didn't let Bama stay as close to them in score as LSU did. I also don't understand the continued mismatch in size between the A&M end (was it 6'5" to 5'10"??). I don't know if that was due to Bama Not having any better option, or if the experience of our defender was just felt to be enough to make up for it? In the end, that was just another nail in the coffin. It was a well played game by A&M. Much better than played by Bama. It pointed up our weakness on pass defense, and our weakness against no-huddle offenses. Something that might not be over for us. We will just have to wait and see.

Naw, bro. I don't buy that at all. Plain and simple, Bama's D just isn't as good as it was last year. In fact, not even close. Stats cover up a bunch of shortcomings.

We didn't deserve to win this game. We were outplayed, outschemed, and frankly, outcoached. It happens. And just like last year, we need help from elsewhere. We'll see how the others do with the target on their back and the pressure squeezing their chests.

Carry on...

OLS · 11-14-2012, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by rizzle

We'll see how the others do with the target on their back and the pressure squeezing their chests.

Carry on...

Boy you said a mouthful there. THIS is to me the essential ingredient to the near loss in Baton Rouge
and the loss at home. Kids are not cut out for this kind of pressure, scrutiny, criticism....Bama played
a TOUGH game and suffered a heart-breaking loss. NOW is the time to relax, tiptoe through the 'gimme'
end of the season and watch the pressure attack the teams they NEED to lose. Bama has a lucky charm
in their pocket, look what happened last year. In a way there was NO WAY they should have been
allowed into that game to roast LSU's a55. And in another way, there is no way they should be denied
the berth. That's a lucky charm. We'll see how it works out for em in these two weeks. Will they lose
again in 2012? I highly doubt it.

Bleez · 11-10-2012, 09:52 PM

Two things regarding the end of the game.

WTF was McCaron thinking throwing into coverage...again?

Who jumps offsides on a punt?

Killers of mistakes...

OLS · 11-11-2012, 09:08 AM

The mistake that actually caused the GAME TO END and shut the door for good was a simple error that cannot
be said to have cost bama the game. No more than the fact that bama was charged with a foul for an illegal hit and
then the very same thing happens and A&M gets off scott free. I have said it here too many times to count,
you HAVE to win the game so convincingly that no error can cost you the game. Or else you do not "deserve to win."
bama fans here made it plain they felt they deserved to win, but that's FANDOM. That is not one of my usual comments
intended to rile fans. If you fail to win the game going away, you cannot fault a over-anxious kid for jumping into the
neutral zone. When bama lost to LSU in the regular season last year, it was not the kicker who lost the game.
It was the kicking game as a whole that failed the tide, as did the un-characteristic bad decision by Ol' Nicky to put his
kicker in an impossible spot. An irony is that les Miles turned around and gave it right back to Saban this time
around...yards longer than his kicker's career best...foolishness.

It seemed to me that the game was lost on conditioning. The kid Manziel is a freaking EEL. You can't win if you
can't breathe. Chasing him around for 60 minutes is almost impossible. OK, sure, LSU did it, but that's LSU, lol.
We are just awesomemer that other teams.

Another possible reason bama lost is because Nick Saban does not respect
the no-huddle offense and has said as much. And it is obvious that he did not prepare his team to have to chase a
greased pig. I think it was a coaching let down after a tough victory against LSU. I said that nick saban won the game
for the tide last week and I think he lost the game to the Aggies.

OLS · 11-12-2012, 11:39 AM

Its all relative. Of course you played badly, you lost, lol. But you didn't play TERRIBLY.
But what's relative is you are bama. You could compete with any team in the country.
This week though, it wasn't a penalty here, a turnover there. It was another near-whippin'.

Its like when the Saints beat the Colts in the Super Bowl. There was 'no way" they could win,
but, and here is the parallel for me, Manning goes to the well too often with a pass he has thrown 1200 times
and the Saints player steps in front of it and goes to the house. This late in the season, everyone has seen
everything bama does when it HAS to have 5 yards, and you got burned on it. A&Ms defender steps right in front
of it and basically ends the game. Great film study by the Aggies and smart players defending with their backs to the wall.

As has been stated before, Nicky hates the no huddle. That doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to defend it
when there is this much on the line. I now no longer believe Nick Saban is going to be there forever. In fact
I believe he will be gone this year or the next. He once stated that it is a lot more fun to build a program than
to maintain it. He has built it, now he not only has to maintain it, he is getting criticized at home for nearly losing
to LSU and losing to A&M when he had the team to beat in both cases. There are rumblings on message boards,
and we all know Nicky's personality. He does not like to be criticized by the roundheads. I think the fun is gone
for Nicky at Tuscaloosa. He is going to bolt for a better gig, claim it was just the money, but I think it is too tough
to keep a national champion on the field year in and year out, which is of course what you guys expect now.

Isaiah, I disagree with some of your statements, none FULLY, but a little of all of it. It is NEVER too late for bama
to come back from a bad 1st quarter. You have the top team in the country by most SEC accounts. It is a travesty
that A&M is muddling down in 8th place, but I guess they can't leap LSU who beat em already, and there are all the
teams above bama that haven't stumbled, but UF almost got beat by ULL, cripey, how are they above LSU and A&M?
Well, its easy, LSU lost to UF. But that shows how messed up the BCS system is I guess. After beating bama, no one
can argue that A&M couldn't beat anyone above them. I guess its just the bad luck of the season so far. It has hurt
almost everyone in some way. Cept for those "undefeateds" Still, what's fairer than the current setup?

------

One thing for sure, EVERYONE wants to move on to the next game and forget what has happened over the past
two or three weeks, lol. it ain't over yet for bama.....we'll see how they respond.

oooo35980 · 11-12-2012, 12:26 PM

I don't think just because a team lost they played badly, sure that first quarter was lousy, but after that our defense had their number and held them to 9 the rest of the game. It put the whole game on the offense which couldn't quite do it, almost, but not quite. We can blame Saban's coaching or Yeldon's fumble or AJ's interception, but fact is our defense didn't adjust fast enough and that's why we lost.

IMO that game is one we can be proud of, sure we lost, but everyone loses sometimes. Everyone acting like Bama is composed of Herculean demi-gods led by Zeus himself and should beat everyone by 100 points is just nonsense. They are a bunch of college kids led by a human coach, just like everyone else.

11-10-2012, 06:35 PM	#1
oooo35980 Feeling at Home Join Date: Mar 2011 First Name: Isaiah Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 569 Trading: (3)	Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012 judging from the past hour or so I don't think GA has to worry about it much.

11-10-2012, 06:41 PM	#2
OLS Suck It Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brad Location: TN Posts: 7,912 Trading: (19)	Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012 haha, I think you guys in Tuscaloosa are safe....Auburn has beaten bama before, but I don't see it.

11-10-2012, 07:02 PM	#3
oooo35980 Feeling at Home Join Date: Mar 2011 First Name: Isaiah Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 569 Trading: (3)	Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012 Mississippi state is hanging with LSU, barely. I didn't see that one coming. LSU might be a bit worse for wear after last week too. I still don't think Mississippi state can win, but it isn't a complete embarrassment like their last two games.

11-10-2012, 07:10 PM	#4
OLS Suck It Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brad Location: TN Posts: 7,912 Trading: (19)	Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012 At least you can watch it....no cable in my house. But Miss State is still a capable football team, just woefully inconsistent. That's all coaching; bama has great players and great coaching and they keep them motivated and performing at a high level. You can get very close with just talent. But you can't play well all the time that way. MSU is completely capable of beating the tigers tonight. But LSU is in business to make it happen in the 4th qtr. Watch for the relentless running game to just wear em down. Make no mistake, LSU can RUN the ball.

11-10-2012, 07:21 PM	#5
oooo35980 Feeling at Home Join Date: Mar 2011 First Name: Isaiah Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 569 Trading: (3)	Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012 That sucks, we got cable specifically for the games after one week we weren't able to watch anything we gave a crap about online, ESPN sucks sometimes. Mettenberger looks like the real deal, he isn't having as good a game as last week, but way better than in the early season.

11-10-2012, 07:35 PM	#6
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,932 Trading: (60)	Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012 I should watch Alabama games more often. Brought some luck....to the Aggies. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

11-10-2012, 07:48 PM	#11
Fordman4ever Redneck driving a ricer!! Join Date: Dec 2010 First Name: Earl Location: A place too cold to smoke outside Posts: 2,508 Trading: (26)	Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012 Go Dawgs. Beat them tigers __________________

11-10-2012, 08:27 PM	#13
SvilleKid Yes I am a Pirate Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 33°46′08″N 86°28′16″W / 33.76895°N 86.471037°W Posts: 2,776 Trading: (52)	Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012 I don't know that I buy that Bama's defense problem was being beat up. They looked susceptible to the same offense that LSU threw at them, A&M just didn't let Bama stay as close to them in score as LSU did. I also don't understand the continued mismatch in size between the A&M end (was it 6'5" to 5'10"??). I don't know if that was due to Bama Not having any better option, or if the experience of our defender was just felt to be enough to make up for it? In the end, that was just another nail in the coffin. It was a well played game by A&M. Much better than played by Bama. It pointed up our weakness on pass defense, and our weakness against no-huddle offenses. Something that might not be over for us. We will just have to wait and see. __________________ Ceilin' fan it stirs the air, Cigar smoke does swirl. The fragrance on the pillow case, and he thinks about the girl. Thanks, JB, 1975.

11-10-2012, 09:52 PM	#17
Bleez Feeling at Home Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Bleez Location: Too far from water... Posts: 675 Trading: (26)	Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012 Two things regarding the end of the game. WTF was McCaron thinking throwing into coverage...again? Who jumps offsides on a punt? Killers of mistakes...

11-11-2012, 09:08 AM	#18
OLS Suck It Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brad Location: TN Posts: 7,912 Trading: (19)	Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012 The mistake that actually caused the GAME TO END and shut the door for good was a simple error that cannot be said to have cost bama the game. No more than the fact that bama was charged with a foul for an illegal hit and then the very same thing happens and A&M gets off scott free. I have said it here too many times to count, you HAVE to win the game so convincingly that no error can cost you the game. Or else you do not "deserve to win." bama fans here made it plain they felt they deserved to win, but that's FANDOM. That is not one of my usual comments intended to rile fans. If you fail to win the game going away, you cannot fault a over-anxious kid for jumping into the neutral zone. When bama lost to LSU in the regular season last year, it was not the kicker who lost the game. It was the kicking game as a whole that failed the tide, as did the un-characteristic bad decision by Ol' Nicky to put his kicker in an impossible spot. An irony is that les Miles turned around and gave it right back to Saban this time around...yards longer than his kicker's career best...foolishness. It seemed to me that the game was lost on conditioning. The kid Manziel is a freaking EEL. You can't win if you can't breathe. Chasing him around for 60 minutes is almost impossible. OK, sure, LSU did it, but that's LSU, lol. We are just awesomemer that other teams. Another possible reason bama lost is because Nick Saban does not respect the no-huddle offense and has said as much. And it is obvious that he did not prepare his team to have to chase a greased pig. I think it was a coaching let down after a tough victory against LSU. I said that nick saban won the game for the tide last week and I think he lost the game to the Aggies.

11-12-2012, 11:39 AM	#19
OLS Suck It Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brad Location: TN Posts: 7,912 Trading: (19)	Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012 Its all relative. Of *course* you played badly, you lost, lol. But you didn't play TERRIBLY. But what's relative is you are bama. You could compete with any team in the country. This week though, it wasn't a penalty here, a turnover there. It was another near-whippin'. Its like when the Saints beat the Colts in the Super Bowl. There was 'no way" they could win, but, and here is the parallel for me, Manning goes to the well too often with a pass he has thrown 1200 times and the Saints player steps in front of it and goes to the house. This late in the season, everyone has seen everything bama does when it HAS to have 5 yards, and you got burned on it. A&Ms defender steps right in front of it and basically ends the game. Great film study by the Aggies and smart players defending with their backs to the wall. As has been stated before, Nicky hates the no huddle. That doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to defend it when there is this much on the line. I now no longer believe Nick Saban is going to be there forever. In fact I believe he will be gone this year or the next. He once stated that it is a lot more fun to build a program than to maintain it. He has built it, now he not only has to maintain it, he is getting criticized at home for nearly losing to LSU and losing to A&M when he had the team to beat in both cases. There are rumblings on message boards, and we all know Nicky's personality. He does not like to be criticized by the roundheads. I think the fun is gone for Nicky at Tuscaloosa. He is going to bolt for a better gig, claim it was just the money, but I think it is too tough to keep a national champion on the field year in and year out, which is of course what you guys expect now. Isaiah, I disagree with some of your statements, none FULLY, but a little of all of it. It is NEVER too late for bama to come back from a bad 1st quarter. You have the top team in the country by most SEC accounts. It is a travesty that A&M is muddling down in 8th place, but I guess they can't leap LSU who beat em already, and there are all the teams above bama that haven't stumbled, but UF almost got beat by ULL, cripey, how are they above LSU and A&M? Well, its easy, LSU lost to UF. But that shows how messed up the BCS system is I guess. After beating bama, no one can argue that A&M couldn't beat anyone above them. I guess its just the bad luck of the season so far. It has hurt almost everyone in some way. Cept for those "undefeateds" Still, what's fairer than the current setup? ------ One thing for sure, EVERYONE wants to move on to the next game and forget what has happened over the past two or three weeks, lol. it ain't over yet for bama.....we'll see how they respond. Last edited by OLS; 11-12-2012 at 11:47 AM.

11-12-2012, 12:26 PM	#20
oooo35980 Feeling at Home Join Date: Mar 2011 First Name: Isaiah Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 569 Trading: (3)	Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2012 I don't think just because a team lost they played badly, sure that first quarter was lousy, but after that our defense had their number and held them to 9 the rest of the game. It put the whole game on the offense which couldn't quite do it, almost, but not quite. We can blame Saban's coaching or Yeldon's fumble or AJ's interception, but fact is our defense didn't adjust fast enough and that's why we lost. IMO that game is one we can be proud of, sure we lost, but everyone loses sometimes. Everyone acting like Bama is composed of Herculean demi-gods led by Zeus himself and should beat everyone by 100 points is just nonsense. They are a bunch of college kids led by a human coach, just like everyone else.