CC's or NC's? - Page 6

PuffPuffGive1 · 03-30-2012, 02:56 PM

CC's FTMFW and I never smoked a cigar in my life!(J/K) Even though my taste pallet is more suited towards the flavors CC's and Nicaraguans produce, I am in no way influenced by what or where a cigar is made or the legal status of them. =D

kelmac07 · 03-30-2012, 05:45 PM

I personally prefer my NC's over the CC's everyday of the week and twice on Sundays. It's been said here numerous times...smoke what you like, like what you smoke.

Starscream · 03-30-2012, 09:51 PM

When do I get access to the Swisher Sweets sub forum?

icehog3 · 03-30-2012, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream

When do I get access to the Swisher Sweets sub forum?

Pvff.com.

Starscream · 03-31-2012, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Pvff.com.

I guess my comment deserved that one.

scottdurand · 03-31-2012, 12:55 AM

Most people some Cubans just to say they are smoking a Cuban. For some of us it's about the certain complex flavors that we enjoy. I simply can't find anything that I like more than a nicely aged Punch Punch or Magnum 46 (have to slip the Siglo VI in as well). The interesting thing about the attraction for people to Cuban cigars is that many people that walk into a humidor skip over most of what tastes closest to a Cuban (e.g. Por larranaga Cabinet Corona and a few of the Curivari). This is probably why sitting in a local B&M and someone mentions Cubans and where to get them usually 2 or 3 guys have a pile and know right where to get them but don't offer up info. With that said i'm lucky to have made a couple buddies at my local shop that have taught me a lot, and if I listen to them go on I realize I still know very little about these wonderful sticks.

Ratters · 03-31-2012, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Pvff.com.

Gonna have to report that post.

Personally, I don't smoke anything from an island. Isthmus, maybe.

Zeuceone · 03-31-2012, 01:11 AM

Cuban smokers are snobs...

ArgusP2 · 03-31-2012, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeuceone

Cuban smokers are snobs...

You're a snob!!

Zeuceone · 03-31-2012, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ArgusP2

You're a snob!!

mithrilG60 · 03-31-2012, 01:18 AM

... and NC smokers have an inferiority complex when it comes to Cubans. Sweeping generalizations: a fun game the whole family can play

forgop · 03-31-2012, 12:30 PM

NC's all the way. See, there is a Cuban embargo in effect and it is illegal to purchase Cuban cigars. I will always side with our lawmakers in its selective opposition to communism.

03-31-2012, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by forgop

NC's all the way. See, there is a Cuban embargo in effect and it is illegal to purchase Cuban cigars. I will always side with our lawmakers in its selective opposition to communism.

Purchasing Cuban cigars is not illegal.....you just can't bring them into the states.

akumushi · 03-31-2012, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by thecatch83

Purchasing Cuban cigars is not illegal.....you just can't bring them into the states.

Technically, I believe this is incorrect. As far as I understand the trading with the enemy laws, it is illegal for an American citizen to purchase and smoke a Cuban cigar, whether it is in France, Cuba or Canada. Now, you can do so without much fear of being caught, because who would be procecuting you? But still, it's technically illegal. Just as if you bought something from Iran while vacationing in Iraq, it's doesn't matter if you're not trying to bring something home that's illegal, it's the fact that you're engaging in trade and therefore breaking embargos/sanctions against a sworn enemy of the united states.

Stick · 03-31-2012, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by thecatch83

Purchasing Cuban cigars is not illegal.....you just can't bring them into the states.

Yep, pretty sure Clayton has it correct.

"The Regulations prohibit any person subject to U.S. jurisdiction from dealing in any property in which Cuba or a Cuban national has or has had any interest. Under the Regulations, “property” is very broadly defined and includes such things as contracts and services. For example, unless authorized, persons subject to U.S. jurisdiction (including U.S. overseas subsidiaries) may not purchase Cuban cigars in third countries...

Link

shilala · 04-08-2012, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Stick

Yep, pretty sure Clayton has it correct.

"The Regulations prohibit any person subject to U.S. jurisdiction from dealing in any property in which Cuba or a Cuban national has or has had any interest. Under the Regulations, “property” is very broadly defined and includes such things as contracts and services. For example, unless authorized, persons subject to U.S. jurisdiction (including U.S. overseas subsidiaries) may not purchase Cuban cigars in third countries...

Link

Clayton outlined the chain really well. From my understanding, I can't even smoke a cc legally, regardless of where I got it or where I am in the world.
It never really made sense to me until I just saw "trading with the enemy".
If I smoke that cc, even though I don't have a dime in it, they profit from making it. That makes the spirit of the law make sense.

OLS · 04-01-2012, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by thecatch83

Purchasing Cuban cigars is not illegal.....you just can't bring them into the states.

I would say that nothing could be further from the truth, but the second part of your sentence was correct.
NO AMERICAN is allowed to purchase ANY PRODUCT in which a cuban has any interest.
No matter where you buy them, if the product is one in which a cuban benefits, you
cannot buy it. So no matter who bought the cigars from cuba to sell to whomever, no matter
where they sell them, as an American citizen you cannot legally be involved in the chain of transactions
in any way. If a cuban built the tire valve stem caps in a mercedes-benz roadster and was paid to do so,
you could not buy that car. If you are in London, you cannot buy a cuban cigar if you are an American.
If you are in Mexico, you cannot buy a cuban cigar. if you are at the North Pole, well, you get the idea.

The intention of the US embargo against Cuba is to keep our cash out of their hands. It is NOT to keep
cuban products out of the United States per se. It doesn't matter where you do it, if you benefit a cuban
through a transaction anywhere on the globe, you have "hurt the USA" and "helped Cuba"
Clayton is on a bit of roll lately, sorry I did not read his response to your reply first. He is correct in every way.

RWhisenand · 04-01-2012, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OLS

I would say that nothing could be further from the truth, ...

The intention of the US embargo against Cuba is to keep our cash out of their hands. It is NOT to keep
cuban products out of the United States per se. It doesn't matter where you do it, if you benefit a cuban
through a transaction anywhere on the globe, you have "hurt the USA" and "helped Cuba"
Clayton is on a bit of roll lately, sorry I did not read his response to your reply first. He is correct in every way.

http://www.cubatrade.org/

We trade with Cuba all the time.

pnoon · 04-01-2012, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RWhisenand

http://www.cubatrade.org/

We trade with Cuba all the time.

Rob, I think the point is that the average citizen is prohibited from engaging in economic activity with Cuba.

RichieBklyn · 03-31-2012, 12:47 PM

As a new poster and starter of this thread let me first start by saying 122 replies WOW!! No this is not a brag post, just impressed to see the interest in a subject that is often in my mind when it comes to cigars.

Secondly, let me say I have been in poker forums for years and the worst post to spend my time reading was an insulting or tirade laced post, when I'm trying to just enjoy comments on the subject matter. I think everyone needs to think before they write every post and ask themselves is this going to insult someone. Not solely because one doesn't want to be offensive, hell im a NY'er u know we don't care about that. But becuase most of us don't want to read the next 5 insulting fight posts along the way trying to get back to the subject at hand. Just my experiences guys. Now before I offend anyone else, I have another question related to some posts in this thread.

A few people have stated they get tastes from CC's that they don't get from NC's. Whether it be thru the mouth or nose. And many people associated NC's with strong full bodied pepper tastes. With that said can anyone explain tastes that they get from NC's that they don't get from CC's? Naming the cigar would also be great!

03-30-2012, 02:56 PM	#1
PuffPuffGive1 I'm the one who knocks! Join Date: Nov 2011 First Name: Alan Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 167 Trading: (5)	Re: CC's or NC's? CC's FTMFW and I never smoked a cigar in my life!(J/K) Even though my taste pallet is more suited towards the flavors CC's and Nicaraguans produce, I am in no way influenced by what or where a cigar is made or the legal status of them. =D Last edited by PuffPuffGive1; 03-30-2012 at 03:04 PM.

03-30-2012, 05:45 PM	#2
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: CC's or NC's? I personally prefer my NC's over the CC's everyday of the week and twice on Sundays. It's been said here numerous times...smoke what you like, like what you smoke. __________________ Dom in the MLB thread "I could probably get you to wear a Yankee hat for a Maduro!"

03-30-2012, 09:51 PM	#3
Starscream Knowhutimean, Vern? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andy Location: In a little town somewhere in the USA Posts: 10,237 Trading: (4)	Re: CC's or NC's? When do I get access to the Swisher Sweets sub forum? __________________ Insert quote here.

03-31-2012, 12:55 AM	#6
scottdurand Still Watching My Back Join Date: Dec 2010 First Name: Scott Location: Lafayette, La (Cajun country) Posts: 59 Trading: (0)	Re: CC's or NC's? Most people some Cubans just to say they are smoking a Cuban. For some of us it's about the certain complex flavors that we enjoy. I simply can't find anything that I like more than a nicely aged Punch Punch or Magnum 46 (have to slip the Siglo VI in as well). The interesting thing about the attraction for people to Cuban cigars is that many people that walk into a humidor skip over most of what tastes closest to a Cuban (e.g. Por larranaga Cabinet Corona and a few of the Curivari). This is probably why sitting in a local B&M and someone mentions Cubans and where to get them usually 2 or 3 guys have a pile and know right where to get them but don't offer up info. With that said i'm lucky to have made a couple buddies at my local shop that have taught me a lot, and if I listen to them go on I realize I still know very little about these wonderful sticks.

03-31-2012, 01:11 AM	#8
Zeuceone You're next Join Date: Dec 2010 First Name: G Location: SoCal Posts: 1,737 Trading: (16)	Re: CC's or NC's? Cuban smokers are snobs... __________________ It's just *THIS* this easy to help out the troops.

03-31-2012, 01:18 AM	#11
mithrilG60 Feeling at Home Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Geoff Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 733 Trading: (2)	Re: CC's or NC's? ... and NC smokers have an inferiority complex when it comes to Cubans. Sweeping generalizations: a fun game the whole family can play

03-31-2012, 12:30 PM	#12
forgop Not a puffer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Duane Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2,869 Trading: (40)	Re: CC's or NC's? NC's all the way. See, there is a Cuban embargo in effect and it is illegal to purchase Cuban cigars. I will always side with our lawmakers in its selective opposition to communism.

03-31-2012, 12:47 PM	#20
RichieBklyn I'm going to smoke... Join Date: May 2010 First Name: Richie bklyn Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 70 Trading: (0)	Re: CC's or NC's? As a new poster and starter of this thread let me first start by saying 122 replies WOW!! No this is not a brag post, just impressed to see the interest in a subject that is often in my mind when it comes to cigars. Secondly, let me say I have been in poker forums for years and the worst post to spend my time reading was an insulting or tirade laced post, when I'm trying to just enjoy comments on the subject matter. I think everyone needs to think before they write every post and ask themselves is this going to insult someone. Not solely because one doesn't want to be offensive, hell im a NY'er u know we don't care about that. But becuase most of us don't want to read the next 5 insulting fight posts along the way trying to get back to the subject at hand. Just my experiences guys. Now before I offend anyone else, I have another question related to some posts in this thread. A few people have stated they get tastes from CC's that they don't get from NC's. Whether it be thru the mouth or nose. And many people associated NC's with strong full bodied pepper tastes. With that said can anyone explain tastes that they get from NC's that they don't get from CC's? Naming the cigar would also be great! __________________ Boooyyyyaaaaaahhhhhh!!!